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Old 09-29-2009, 07:54 PM   #1
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Question Holly has GIARDIA?

I have had Holly for 2.5 months and have tested her poop 4 times and has come back positive for giardia. I am so confused because she does not have any symptoms of having this. The vet has given her medication 3 times 2ml twice a day for two days and have to get her tested in 3 wks. I have read about giardia in books and online and that does not sound right. I dont know if he is just trying to take my money or there is something wrong with Holly.
Should I take her to a different vet? Please help!!!!
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:45 PM   #2
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Hmmm I really do not think that two days of meds is enough at all plus three times a day? I am not sure what meds they gave for it, but it doesn't sound like the way I would go.
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What medication did the vet give you?
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The vet gave me .3 ml of Albendazole liquid 2 times daily for two days.
I need to retest her tomorrow but I dont know if I should take her to that same vet or change to a different vet.
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You could call and ask another vet what they would prescribe.

Everything that I have read about giardia, and I have read a lot about it, says that it is very hard to detect because it only shows up in the stool at one stage of development.

Normal treatment for giardia is treat with panacur for 5 days, then wait 10 days and treat for another 3 days.

If he is using Flaygl it could be different.

There is another thread going about coccidia and if vets just diagnose parasites to get the money.
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I think the treatment is in no way going to get rid of it. Did he tell you that you must clean like crazy? That one cyst can reinfect? I think I would try to find another dr. I found this link for you that you can read over too ACVC 2001 - Diarrhea Caused by Giardia and Clostridium Perfringens Enterotoxicosis I would suggest the use of panacur, but I am not a vet!
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You could call and ask another vet what they would prescribe.

Everything that I have read about giardia, and I have read a lot about it, says that it is very hard to detect because it only shows up in the stool at one stage of development.

Normal treatment for giardia is treat with panacur for 5 days, then wait 10 days and treat for another 3 days.

If he is using Flaygl it could be different.

There is another thread going about coccidia and if vets just diagnose parasites to get the money.
When Sissy had Giardia - Pancur did not work. It tooks 10 days of Metronidazole (Flagyl) for it to clear up after a week of Pancur. Three days of treatment is definitely not enough for a positive Giardia sample.

Giardia isn't anything to fool around with. It is possible for them to have it and not appear ill, but once they do it can be a very rapid onset with extremely rapid dehydration. Bloody, watering/mucousy, explosive stools can happen in an instant (and look like a horror show). Giardia can also scar the intestinal tract and make them susceptible to other intestinal issues.
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Yup when Peanut had Giardia he took Metronidazole (Flagyl) too
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Personally, I don't think vets are in it for the money, that's a lot of schooling, and they see so much heartbreak, I think vets are one of our unsung heroes. There are exceptions to every rule, but I think this is very rare indeed. Regarding treatment for Giardia, this site explains that while Flagyl takes ten days of treatment, however a newer drug, Panacur, takes only two to three days. Flagyl has much more serious side effects, while Panacur is safe even on puppies as young as 6 weeks, and will also treat roundworm, hookworm and whipworm. So if this is what you vet has given your dog, I would feel very confident. Also, remember that part of his choice was made because your dog is symptom free.

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There are several options of treatment, some with two- or three-day protocols and others needing seven-to-10 days to complete the job. Flagyl (Metronidazole) is an old stand-by treatment for bacterial infestations that cause diarrhea and is about 60-70 percent effective in curing giardiasis. However, Flagyl has potentially serious side-effects in some animals, including vomiting, anorexia, liver toxicity, and some neurological signs, and it cannot be used in pregnant dogs. In a recent study, Panacur (Fenbendazole), which is approved for use in treating dogs with roundworm, hookworm, and whipworm, has been shown to be effective in treating canine giardiasis. Panacur is safe to use in puppies at least six weeks of age. Dog Owner's Guide: Giardia
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I think the treatment is in no way going to get rid of it. Did he tell you that you must clean like crazy? That one cyst can reinfect? I think I would try to find another dr. I found this link for you that you can read over too ACVC 2001 - Diarrhea Caused by Giardia and Clostridium Perfringens Enterotoxicosis I would suggest the use of panacur, but I am not a vet!

He did not say anything about cleaning I found that on my own and since day one I have been cleaning with bleach and lysol like crazy because I want the test to come back neg. and nothing. I made her a potty that when she goes pee an d poop everything goes to the pad and does not touch her feet and still I wipe her feet and bottom with wipes. If that is not clean I dontknow what is. I have been giving her pineapple so just in case she goes potty and I dont catch it on time or it does not drop into the doggie pad she will not eat it I knw she does not eat her poop but you never know if at some point she will pick it up. I wash her bed and toys every day.
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Normal treatment for giardia is treat with panacur for 5 days, then wait 10 days and treat for another 3 days.
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Yes, Panacur is good medicine. I am fortunate to have an amazing office of vets, but in this sitaution, I would be getting second and third opinions. Good luck! Be careful - I hear it is very contaigous. Don't know this for sure, but I've heard it can be spread to humans too? Don't know how accurate that is.
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Yes, Panacur is good medicine. I am fortunate to have an amazing office of vets, but in this sitaution, I would be getting second and third opinions. Good luck! Be careful - I hear it is very contaigous. Don't know this for sure, but I've heard it can be spread to humans too? Don't know how accurate that is.
I heard the same thing that it can spread to humans so I am the onyone to put hands on her and I keep her away from my other furbaby HEFF.
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She might be a carrier.....they do not get the symptoms.
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After a lot of reading I've learned that many dogs have giardia but it is inactive until the dog comes under stress and then it can take off. But unless it is active it cannot be detected in the stool. In fact it can only be detected in the stool in just one stage of it's life.

So I cannot understand how they can find girardia in the stool of a dog that is not showing symptoms of it.

Now this is just the conclusions that I have drawn.. If someone has more information I am eager to learn.
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Yes, I cant wait to get more info. So far I will be going to another vet to get a second opinion.
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