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Old 04-29-2006, 07:53 AM   #1
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Default Do you believe in multiple lives..... Or a good discussion for a rainy day.

I posted this in another thread, but thought it deserved a thread of it's own.

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I'm serious when I say this. YES They have souls. Sorry I can't quote the bible but I truly believe this.

It's some HUMANS that I worry about....many don't have souls. If they did ...they could never do the things they do to animals & other humans out of cruelty.....there are some EVIL people in this world. There are NO evil animals.

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I have a theory on this. Since God created us all, he had to have created evil people also. I believe that we live many lives. And that we learn different lessons each time we are here.

For people who are just down right evil and have no consicience, I believe it is their first time around, they have not yet learned compassion.

Then there are those people that are just so nice, they never say a bad word aobut any one, they always see the good, and they would never do anything to hurt anybody. those peole are very close to getting their wings.

I believe life is like going to school. We choose what we want to learn, and we are born into a setting that will teach us those lessons. And the lessons gradually get more and more difficult as we get closer and closer to graduating.


I also believe that being rich or gifted, is a much harder lesson than being poor. God gives people wealth and talent to see what they will do with it. He does not give it to them because he liked them better than he liked anyone else.


Just what I believe. I'm interested in hearing other views

Maybe I should start a new thread with this one.
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I enjoyed reading that post and since it IS raining here too...I thought I'd comment. Your ideas are interesting.

The only one I hope that is NOT true is that EVIL gets a 2nd time around. I really think there IS a special place that waits for those who prey on the innocent out of cruelty.

When I say prey - I mean TRUE Evil...who murder and torture for the thrill. I include ALL Abusers of animals in that. The people who will take an animal and inflict pain for FUN just to watch it suffer...and the child murders/rapists. Those are the people that prey on the innocent for their own selfish motives and I truly hope they only get ONE chance on our earth....and when their time comes - they go to that 'special' place and pay for their actions.

If they come DO back in another life ...I sure hope it's as a Mushroom or some other non threatening plant. lol
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I enjoyed reading that post and since it IS raining here too...I thought I'd comment. Your ideas are interesting.

The only one I hope that is NOT true is that EVIL gets a 2nd time around. I really think there IS a special place that waits for those who prey on the innocent out of cruelty.

When I say prey - I mean TRUE Evil...who murder and torture for the thrill. I include ALL Abusers of animals in that. The people who will take an animal and inflict pain for FUN just to watch it suffer...and the child murders/rapists. Those are the people that prey on the innocent for their own selfish motives and I truly hope they only get ONE chance on our earth....and when their time comes - they go to that 'special' place and pay for their actions.

If they come DO back in another life ...I sure hope it's as a Mushroom or some other non threatening plant. lol
Perhaps for those, they have to live their next life as a victim, in order to learn the lesson of compassion. So maybe when we are feeling bad fior a victim, it is really just someone being taught a lesson.

Disclaimer,, # 532 Not meant to antagonize, for discussion purposes only.
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That's interesting - but I just can't see a man woman, child..or animal who is victimized ...as someone who did something wrong in a past life.

I DO like the idea of pay-back though. There is so much evil in our world and we will never be rid of it but I would never be able to blame a victim no matter what....That's why the phrase "What goes around... comes around" is a good one -

I think in the end - evil gets exactly what's coming to them - just not here on earth. The word Eternity comes to mind....along with the words Burning in H*ll ....and Fires of D**nation

You do have some provoking thoughts and I for one take no offense ...I hope anyone reading this sees it for what it is....just a discussion....
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Based on my Christian faith, I believe what is written...one life, one soul, one life pleasing to God and one eternal life, with no chance to do it over..but never too late to do it right.

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Pat said exactly how I feel too! I might add though, I don't believe God created evil people. However, there is this fallen angel named Satan who does his own evil.
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I enjoyed reading that post and since it IS raining here too...I thought I'd comment. Your ideas are interesting.

The only one I hope that is NOT true is that EVIL gets a 2nd time around. I really think there IS a special place that waits for those who prey on the innocent out of cruelty.

When I say prey - I mean TRUE Evil...who murder and torture for the thrill. I include ALL Abusers of animals in that. The people who will take an animal and inflict pain for FUN just to watch it suffer...and the child murders/rapists. Those are the people that prey on the innocent for their own selfish motives and I truly hope they only get ONE chance on our earth....and when their time comes - they go to that 'special' place and pay for their actions.

If they come DO back in another life ...I sure hope it's as a Mushroom or some other non threatening plant. lol


I think in life you have choices, I don't believe God created evil people.
You were givin life, and it is up to you to make the best of it.
A second chance? Hmmmmm the people who abused our three children,
do not have the right to a second chance. (IMO) I'm sorry V, but even a mushroom would be too good for them. It has taken many years working with
our children, showing them life is not about getting even, but to make the best out of their lives and prove to the world they are worth something.
Being abused like they were, and having blood family telling them they are not
worth the time of day was very hard on them. They have learned about family love, and they are worth more than they could ever dream of. We were very blessed the day God sent them our way, and he showed us how to take their pain away. Yes, they had a second chance, but it wasn't their fault they needed it.
When our time comes, you either get your White Wings, or you don't.
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sorry i cant comment since its BEAUTIFUL here today !! sorry had to brag lol
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Based on my Christian faith, I believe what is written...one life, one soul, one life pleasing to God and one eternal life, with no chance to do it over..but never too late to do it right.
I agree with YorkieRose. There is NOT a second chance at life!!!!! Don't be mislead!!!!! We all have but one life. We can live our life with Christ as our personal savior or live our life without Christ. I know that it sounds very narrow minded, but the Bible says "Narrow is the way". I believe that if you're not "for" God than you're "against" God and that if you don't have Christ in your heart and life then, I'm sorry, but heaven is not where you'll be. As I said I sound very narrow minded, but this is what I believe the Bible teaches.
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I don't believe that the bible is more than a bunch of cute parables to teach life lessons - to me it is comparable to mother goose's fairy tales.

So, yes, I guess I am mislead. I am not sure what I believe except that I think organized religion is straight and narrow and not my style. I think it is very possible that there is such a thing as reincarnation.

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oh and yes, it is raining here, too. Isn't rain a wonderful way to ruin an otherwise nice Saturday afternoon??
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I agree with YorkieRose. There is NOT a second chance at life!!!!! Don't be mislead!!!!! We all have but one life. We can live our life with Christ as our personal savior or live our life without Christ. I know that it sounds very narrow minded, but the Bible says "Narrow is the way". I believe that if you're not "for" God than you're "against" God and that if you don't have Christ in your heart and life then, I'm sorry, but heaven is not where you'll be. As I said I sound very narrow minded, but this is what I believe the Bible teaches.
So how do you explain why some people are born into a life af abuse and poverty and others are born into a life of luxury. Neither was a choice that anyone made. Do you think it's because God liked one better than he did another???

I believe we all live through everything we all are given a gifted life and we all are given a life of hardship. Every life we learn different lessons. there are those that, even through all of their many lives, never make the right choices. Those are the ones who have sold thier soul to the devil, and they will never be with God.

Isn't being wealthy or gifted and keeping it all to yourself, when you know there are those who could use help, just as bad as those who inflict the pain. Aren't those who stand by and watch a crime just as guilty as those who did the crime???
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I can not explain these things..only God has these answers. I can understand a person hating religion... People kill and do many horrible things in the name of their God. The war in Iraq is a religious war, ask any Iraqi why they are fighting against the Infidels..us, America?
Unfortunately, many churches have failed us...but there are wonderful places to be found...not all religion is the same. Please, never call me a " religious" person..I do not like the term. I am a spirit, therefore I am spiritual.

I believe the Bible is the living word of God, it is my road map home..Yes, man recorded it, but the Holy Spirit gave the inspiration..it is God's word as surely as I sit here. How can I accept this without question..because I choose to by faith. It is my choice to believe or not believe..I choose to believe what I know to be true.
If I am wrong and there is no eternal life, then I have lost nothing. I will become a speck of light in a star or a grain of sand on the floor of the sea...but if the Bible is correct and I do not accept it, then I have lost everything.

When I was young I had many of the same questions about the unfairness of life...I asked God many times how He could allow such suffering in the world...the really good thing about getting older is knowing God is in total control, He has a plan, none of us will ever understand the mind of God until we are with Him..so I have stopped trying to understand..my human mind can not be expected to do something it is not capable of doing now.

In the scheme of things, living 70 or 80 years in a difficult, unfair world is really nothing compared to forever.
I judge or criticize no one for not believing as I do, it is your free choice..I am only responsible for what I believe, and I know what I know, what I know, what I know......
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I can not explain these things..only God has these answers. I can understand a person hating religion... People kill and do many horrible things in the name of their God. The war in Iraq is a religious war, ask any Iraqi why they are fighting against the Infidels..us, America?
Unfortunately, many churches have failed us...but there are wonderful places to be found...not all religion is the same. Please, never call me a " religious" person..I do not like the term. I am a spirit, therefore I am spiritual.

I believe the Bible is the living word of God, it is my road map home..Yes, man recorded it, but the Holy Spirit gave the inspiration..it is God's word as surely as I sit here. How can I accept this without question..because I choose to by faith. It is my choice to believe or not believe..I choose to believe what I know to be true.
If I am wrong and there is no eternal life, then I have lost nothing. I will become a speck of light in a star or a grain of sand on the floor of the sea...but if the Bible is correct and I do not accept it, then I have lost everything.

When I was young I had many of the same questions about the unfairness of life...I asked God many times how He could allow such suffering in the world...the really good thing about getting older is knowing God is in total control, He has a plan, none of us will ever understand the mind of God until we are with Him..so I have stopped trying to understand..my human mind can not be expected to do something it is not capable of doing now.

In the scheme of things, living 70 or 80 years in a difficult, unfair world is really nothing compared to forever.
I judge or criticize no one for not believing as I do, it is your free choice..I am only responsible for what I believe, and I know what I know, what I know, what I know......
Very well said!!!!!

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