Ebola or Hysteria Paranoia?

[yorkiemom76]

[QUOTE=Yorkiemom1;4497674]I am not believing hardly anything anyone says to me. I have posted a little information below, from "International SOS" , as well as information garnered from WHO, CDC (HA!), etc.

I have to agree with you. I lost what little faith I had in the CDC when they told a nurse that they knew was exposed to Ebola WITH a fever, that it would be perfectly fine to get on a plane and travel across the country! WTH?! Whoever made that genius decision needs to be fired!

[Yorkiemom1]

I wanted to add the below information I found.....seems this would be a much better solution that hand sanitizers.....it is what we use in the hospital to wash our hands with....
"Does CHG (Chlorhexidine Gluconate Solution) Kill Ebola Virus?
Yes. This is a hospital-grade soap, which doctors use before performing surgeries. Studies have shown that it is effective at killing all types of bacteria & viruses, including enveloped viruses such as Ebola. This is probably your best bet for hand washing, as it is stronger than regular soap, but not as harsh on skin as bleach. The CHG 4.0% solution is present in a product called Hibiclens. This liquid soap can be purchased online or at most CVS drugstores. As an added bonus, it is also effective at killing MERSA, and quickly heals wounds that MERSA has infected.
Hibiclens Hand Wipes are the perfect replacement for basic hand sanitizer, which is ineffectual against ebola. The Hibiclens Wipes combine 70% Isopropyl Alcohol for immediate bacterial kill, plus a 0.5% CHG solution. This allows for persistent antimicrobial protection that leaves a residual CHG solution on skin – which provides killing action for up to 6 hours.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I am sorry....I was the infection control nurse for the last 5 years at the hospital I worked at....I doubt very seriously there is ANYTHING you can tell me about infections, how they are spread, or infection control management! I may "be wrong again" though...what exactly did you say YOUR qualifications are? Do you actually think for one minute that you can prevent the spread of ebola from an infected person, by simply covering your sneeze with a tissue????????? "Managed without a mask"???????????? Surely to goodness, you do not think a "germ" is THAT easily contained!!!!!!!!!!! That is the problem with the public....they do not know how easily contaminated droplets are spread and picked up. Ask Nina, the nurse that is positive for ebola, about germs and how they cover everything and spread so easily...she was covered head to toe, with a small section of her NECK exposed....and she was trained to deal with contamination and isolation and she got it!!!! And that doctor that got infected....they said he was the most cautious and careful and meticulously clean practice around this disease, and HE got it!!! You think covering your mouth with a tissue is the solution???? Please, dont kid yourself....if a tissue could prevent the spread of this disease, my God, you have solved the crisis surrounding the initial spread of ebola, single handedly!

I was referring to markfromsea not you that's why I quoted him not you. I don't think we are nessisarily being told everything and we didn't watch those people to make sure they didn't make a slight mistake. I do know I see lots of sick people out who cough with out cover there mouth and sneeze without cover there nose.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by chachi

Using a tissue doesnt stop some of the fluids from a sneeze from maybe getting on your hand and then you touching something infected it with ebola since ebola can be present on innate objects too. Is the tissue going to be put in a contamination waste recepticle. Plus Im not totally certain this may not already be airborne they are saying it could mutate and become so. It doesnt make sense to me these nurses were in total protective gear and still got it

Oh yeah I'm just going by the info they are letting us have on the subject. I thought they could have been lying about the air born thing from the begaining because why else would you need the big huge hazmat suits ya know.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

And explane how in the world Duncan's relatives lived in that filthy, contaminated apartment, with bloody vomit and diarrhea all through that apartment, on bedding, in the carpet, etc....and NONE of them have gotten it!!! But the nurses taking care of him, with PPE covering them head to toe, with all the chemicals they wash their hands with as they leave the ante room where they remove all the PPE, THEY come down with it!!! There is so much we do not know about this.....this is scary......

Ewwww where there pictures or something? That's so gross.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I was referring to markfromsea not you that's why I quoted him not you. I don't think we are nessisarily being told everything and we didn't watch those people to make sure they didn't make a slight mistake. I do know I see lots of sick people out who cough with out cover there mouth and sneeze without cover there nose.

I saw that later in the day and I am sorry I jumped on that from you. We are being so misled and left uninformed about what is actually factual and honest by so many people that we SHOULD be able to put our trust in.....I am sorry for my response to you....but actually, this is so far past covering your sneezes or coughs to provide protection.....

Hibiclens is used in our isolation carts for washing our hands....you can apparently buy that at Walgreens and they also have the hand wipes....I will be getting lots of that.....the product offers much more protection than hand sanitizers.....all the stuff we touch out in public....these can not be a bad thing at all for ANYTHING we are trying to protect ourselves from picking up off objects!

[ShowGirlLola]

My immune system is really bad, I get sick very easily and it takes forever to get better. I've been fighting infections (sinuses, ears, and throat) for nearly 5 weeks and 2 rounds of antibiotics. I was also going to school to be a nurse before I got too sick, I've taken all the pre-reqs (microbiology, biotechnology, medical terminology, anatomy and physiology, etc.).
I'm paranoid about germs and have an above average understanding, not medical professional level, but much better than most people.

The things people and medical professionals do are horrifying. I always watch what medical professionals are doing and will call them out on bad behavior.
For example when getting blood drawn I've had to stop them from:
putting gloves on, touching everything, then getting ready to draw blood
cleaning my arm, feeling my vein with a bare finger, then sticking the needle in
putting gauze on my arm that had been touching the table, table side down

I've also had express scripts send me a bottle of allegra 180 and "generic singular"(doesn't exist), it was really 2 bottles of allegra 180. Thankfully the pills looked the same and I looked it up, I was about 15 at the time.


I've noticed a lot of people sneeze and cough into their hands, or without covering at all.

It's very hard to explain to most people how germs are everywhere and how easily things are spread. I'm always fighting with my grandmom about it.


A guy on the news the other night said they won't stop air travel from effected countries because people will find other ways to come in and we wouldn't be able to take their temperature when they get here . I don't think most people would have the money or contacts to get into the country illegally quickly enough. Plus taking their temperature is basically useless.

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I am sorry....I was the infection control nurse for the last 5 years at the hospital I worked at....I doubt very seriously there is ANYTHING you can tell me about infections, how they are spread, or infection control management! I may "be wrong again" though...what exactly did you say YOUR qualifications are? Do you actually think for one minute that you can prevent the spread of ebola from an infected person, by simply covering your sneeze with a tissue????????? "Managed without a mask"???????????? Surely to goodness, you do not think a "germ" is THAT easily contained!!!!!!!!!!! That is the problem with the public....they do not know how easily contaminated droplets are spread and picked up. Ask Nina, the nurse that is positive for ebola, about germs and how they cover everything and spread so easily...she was covered head to toe, with a small section of her NECK exposed....and she was trained to deal with contamination and isolation and she got it!!!! And that doctor that got infected....they said he was the most cautious and careful and meticulously clean practice around this disease, and HE got it!!! You think covering your mouth with a tissue is the solution???? Please, dont kid yourself....if a tissue could prevent the spread of this disease, my God, you have solved the crisis surrounding the initial spread of ebola, single handedly!

Thanks for all of your informative postings on ebola Yorkiemom! You've filled in some gaps and I agree on your analysis. Sadly, the nurses went on holiday instead of taking it seriously. I hadn't thought of that element until you mentioned it.

[Cherie6446]

Well, if we all remain very aware of hand washing and sneezing then maybe this flu season will be mild. Think Ebola and skip the flu this time around!

[Wylie's Mom]

I think people are acting out of hysteria, in general, regarding ebola. The whole thing that is happening on the Belize cruise ship is actually just ridiculous to me.

I actually feel the CDC is doing a great job -- we have to remember that they have NO legal authority to do ANYthing w/ regards to hospital protocol. NONE. They can give all the recommendations in the world, but their recommendations have no legal recourse or authority. They've given out very accurate information - it's the media and uninformed people who've caused a lot of misinformation, imo. The main mistake that I think they made was approving the 2nd nurse for that plane ride -- even though technically they *were* still within protocol to approve it (the fever was not at threshold).

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I think people are acting out of hysteria, in general, regarding ebola. The whole thing that is happening on the Belize cruise ship is actually just ridiculous to me.

I actually feel the CDC is doing a great job -- we have to remember that they have NO legal authority to do ANYthing w/ regards to hospital protocol. NONE. They can give all the recommendations in the world, but their recommendations have no legal recourse or authority. They've given out very accurate information - it's the media and uninformed people who've caused a lot of misinformation, imo. The main mistake that I think they made was approving the 2nd nurse for that plane ride -- even though technically they *were* still within protocol to approve it (the fever was not at threshold).

Exactly, not to mention the blatant lies that are being told in the news (and here), the news (especially Fox and CNN) has become reality TV at its worst....


Again, Aids is more of an epidemic than Ebola is and Ebola will never kill a quarter of the people that Aids will/does.


After watching CNN for 2 hours I am now convinced ISIS is going to give me Ebola......just sayin....

[Cherie6446]

Some Ebola victims never get a fever! Fever is not a determining factor.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Cherie6446

Some Ebola victims never get a fever! Fever is not a determining factor.

Do you have any links with information on this?

[Lovetodream88]

I would like to know what's being done with the people who are saying they have it and went to Africa and haven't. They are costing the government/ tax payers a lot of money.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I would like to know what's being done with the people who are saying they have it and went to Africa and haven't. They are costing the government/ tax payers a lot of money.

Hopefully they'll be charged with some kind of disorderly conduct or whatnot and be FINED big time. I can't imagine charges not being brought on this one. It's like those people who fake their own kidnappings - they face criminal charges and restitution.