****Jodi Arias - Oh My Goodness!!!****

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I saw that! Yick. I've seen ALV's name cropping up all day and all the lambasting people are giving her for possibly getting on the stand again.

Nancy, wasn't that sick!!! "Oh, he was so terrified and fighting for his life so hard, his adrenalin rush kept him from hurting from all my client's repeated stabs!!!" I wanted to throw up. SERIOUSLY???

I really disagree with the theory you need to bring up everything you can no matter how obnoxious so the jury will say it's wasn’t cruel. What she needed to do was not piss the jury off. Most probably don't even want to give Jodi the death penalty and are looking for some sort of remorse, but these excuses for everything and her not taking one iota of responsibility are really going to backfire, I think. Willmott loses so much credibility when she pulls these stunts.

[Yorkiemom1]

Guillotine!!!!!!! Guillotine!!!!!!!!!! Guillotine!!!!!!!!!!! (I AM HOLLERING THIS OUT LOUD AND WRINGING MY BONY HANDS AND GNASHING MY SNAGGLED, ROTTING TEETH!!!!)

[yorkietalkjilly]

Are you watching Dr. Drew. Juror #8 is going to be on his show tonight. I am interested in watching what he has to say so I will watch that live.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Are you watching Dr. Drew. Juror #8 is going to be on his show tonight. I am interested in watching what he has to say so I will watch that live.

I just saw it, he sounds like he's really disappointed in himself for letting the family down. Dr. Drew showed so much compassion, I just love him.
Anyway, found the notes on LaViolette: This is from a year ago.

Defense counsel advises that they will be calling Alyce Laviolette at the mitigation phase
of the trial.
The State is on notice of defense counsel’s intent to call Alyce Laviolette at the
mitigation phase of the trial.http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...2/m5249880.pdf

[yorkietalkjilly]

I hope they do call her. I don't think she has any credibility and obviously the jury didn't buy her bunk first time around.

[jp4m2]

Does anyone know if during mitigation does each side get to question the people who go on the stand? For instance if Jodi's mom goes up would J. M. question her or is this just a phase where people speak and then get down from the stand.

As a side note, as a woman I was embarrassed for Willmott and her horrible attempt to try to make us believe Travis didn't suffer from excess adrenaline rushing through his body and he died quickly from the blood pumping out so fast. All I could do was shake my head, how pathetic of a defense.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Does anyone know if during mitigation does each side get to question the people who go on the stand? For instance if Jodi's mom goes up would J. M. question her or is this just a phase where people speak and then get down from the stand.

As a side note, as a woman I was embarrassed for Willmott and her horrible attempt to try to make us believe Travis didn't suffer from excess adrenaline rushing through his body and he died quickly from the blood pumping out so fast. All I could do was shake my head, how pathetic of a defense.

I heard them say Jodi can't be questioned, and I think this is true for all. I agree the adrenaline argument was so stupid, and if Travis did have lots of adrenaline in his system, it would actually slow blood loss, which would increase the amount of time he suffered.

[jp4m2]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I heard them say Jodi can't be questioned, and I think this is true for all. I agree the adrenaline argument was so stupid, and if Travis did have lots of adrenaline in his system, it would actually slow blood loss, which would increase the amount of time he suffered.

I was sure if they could or not because one of the commentators said they didn't think Jodi's mom would want to get up to speak because Juan would ask her about the dreaded spoon incident.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Guillotine!!!!!!! Guillotine!!!!!!!!!! Guillotine!!!!!!!!!!! (I AM HOLLERING THIS OUT LOUD AND WRINGING MY BONY HANDS AND GNASHING MY SNAGGLED, ROTTING TEETH!!!!)

I really wish you'd *stop* with all the subtlety! Gawd! I can never figure out what you mean bc you always beat around the bush.

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I just saw it, he sounds like he's really disappointed in himself for letting the family down. Dr. Drew showed so much compassion, I just love him.
Anyway, found the notes on LaViolette: This is from a year ago.

I love Dr. Drew too! Sometimes he's a litttttle too self indulgent, but not enough where it really gets to me. I just like how he lets his panel talk and discuss, and I like his insight as a psych too.

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I heard them say Jodi can't be questioned, and I think this is true for all. I agree the adrenaline argument was so stupid, and if Travis did have lots of adrenaline in his system, it would actually slow blood loss, which would increase the amount of time he suffered.

I too think this is true. I think those who get on the stand can make their statements and don't get questioned. However, they have very strict guidelines as to what they can/can't say. Like, they can't ask the jury to give her the death penalty (unforch).

[ladyjane]

BOTH of her attorneys tried to quit a couple of weeks ago! I know Nurmi tried a few times and failed....now both have asked. They did not release the reason, but I will bet it was from her idiotic interview.
I want to feel badly for them, BUT I am having a hard time in that they have made such jerks of themselves in how they treated people.....especially Nurmi with his questioning of that sweet girl (forget her name right now) who had dated Travis in the past.

[jp4m2]

I can't even imagine anyone wanting to hire Willmott after seeing her skills as an attorney on this case. To me she looked so unprofessional, lacking in experience, repetitive, monotonous, and lack luster in her questioning of witnesses.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

I can't even imagine anyone wanting to hire Willmott after seeing her skills as an attorney on this case. To me she looked so unprofessional, lacking in experience, repetitive, monotonous, and lack luster in her questioning of witnesses.

I thought it was just me. JM always seemed uninspired and as if she doesn't believe in her own client or the narrative. I never saw any fiery passion. And she couldn't talk any better, more professional experts than those second-bests to assess and work for her client????? And neither she nor Nurms had enough gravitas to get Arias' respect and compliance, it seems like.

Why didn't they convince Arias to play the victim card, play up to her acting and scamming skills and get her to throw herself on the mercy of the court and show nothing but remorse? When you've slaughtered another human being like an animal and left him no dignity, the last thing I'd think you want to do is trash his memory before the world for months on the stand, taking absolutely no responsibility yourself. That was her only real shot to get out of jail relatively "early" - go sad and pitiful. She's a young, fairly attractive woman and she could have played that "I snapped when he attacked and I'm so sorry" card without the character assassination with some amount of success with many who are hesitant to send that type of person away for a long, long time. The way they've done it, Arias and her lawyers and experts have just angered everyone. A lot do seem to want revenge for TA, not just justice.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

I can't even imagine anyone wanting to hire Willmott after seeing her skills as an attorney on this case. To me she looked so unprofessional, lacking in experience, repetitive, monotonous, and lack luster in her questioning of witnesses.

Totally agree....but, we also have to remember she did not have much to work with.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I thought it was just me. JM always seemed uninspired and as if she doesn't believe in her own client or the narrative. I never saw any fiery passion. And she couldn't talk any better, more professional experts than those second-bests to assess and work for her client????? And neither she nor Nurms had enough gravitas to get Arias' respect and compliance, it seems like.

Why didn't they convince Arias to play the victim card, play up to her acting and scamming skills and get her to throw herself on the mercy of the court and show nothing but remorse? When you've slaughtered another human being like an animal and left him no dignity, the last thing I'd think you want to do is trash his memory before the world for months on the stand, taking absolutely no responsibility yourself. That was her only real shot to get out of jail relatively "early" - go sad and pitiful. She's a young, fairly attractive woman and she could have played that "I snapped when he attacked and I'm so sorry" card without the character assassination with some amount of success with many who are hesitant to send that type of person away for a long, long time. The way they've done it, Arias and her lawyers and experts have just angered everyone. A lot do seem to want revenge for TA, not just justice.

Honestly, I don't totally blame them....I have a very strong feeling that what they have done has been crafted by Jodi. She thinks she is smarter than everyone.....
They could only work with what she gave them....they are not supposed to GIVE her a defense. Their job is to defend whatEVER she says happened.

[yorkietalkjilly]

But you know the Bigs tell the client how it's gonna be if they want to get a decent chance to get off or not do a long long sentence and the smart ones go along. What does that say about the lawyer when they can't bring their high-school dropout client along to save her life? Says the client had no reason to put any trust in either atty. I guess that's what you get though when you ask others to pay out of their pockets for your defense! You go off your boyfriend cause he broke it off with you and now you expect to get a lawyer you trust to know what to do when all the hard-working taxpayers are footing your bill? Guess ol' Jodi didn't think they knew any better than she did what to do and after all, she's smarter than Einstein.

Wonder if her first appeal will be based on ineffective assistance of counsel? She'll probably blame them just like she does everyone else.