I had been one to believe that this had to be an accident. My opinion wasn't because I like Casey Anthony or that I feel sorry for her (because neither is true!). It has just been too much for my brain and heart to process. I listened to the aunt in an interview tonight on the Nancy Grace show and she said some of the same things that I had already heard, but also added some new things. She did say that Cindy's mom had told her (the aunt) that they found out that Casey had been stealing from the grandfather's nursing home account. Cindy and Casey basicially got into a knock-down-drag-out fight that evening and Cindy said that she was fed up with all of Casey's stealing and that it had been going on too long and that she planned to have her arrested. It was the next day that was the last time that anyone ever saw Caylee.

I now really do believe that this was intentional....and I think justice will be served if the jurors see this as well.

Her father was an alcoholic who physically attacked her mother and threatened both her and her mother. Her mother shot him. Was legally adjudged to have been self defense so she didn't face any charges.
Charlize was 15 at the time.

Did anyone notice that this morning that Casey has on make-up? I don't recall seeing her with it on before.

Now I'm just waiting to hear what her lawyer has to say in his closing.

Jeff Ashton did a good with his.

I just think that anyone who can bend over the form of a little child and put duct tape over their face anywhere - let alone over the mouth and nose - piece after piece after piece - on that sweet little face of that living little baby - piece after piece after piece - on a living creature - is deliberately and with malice aforethought and thinking about each piece - intending to place it there for one express purpose - did it deliberately and thought well about it as they did it. WHO could place duct tape on a child's face but a true killer! Can anyone imagine bending ove their own child and putting that tape over its little face?!?! Anyone who could do that has got to be a monster of the worst kind. These type often kill again. I hope little Caylee gets some justice. I fear it will only be about 15 years for that woman, though, maybe because of just one juror.

Something that I was telling my husband last night was that if she had accidentially died, after using the Chloroform, Caylee's jaw would have been relaxed. I was telling him that I would be curious to know if her jaw was shut tight or not. This would show that the tape had been placed BEFORE she died. I wondered if this was ever brought up during the case. To my surprise, Aston made a quick reference to this very thing in his closing when he mentioned the mandible. I wish that he would make a point to elaborate on this during his rebuttal.

I agree! This whole thing just breaks my heart. Caylee deserved so much better....

That's true...I definitely wish more emphasis would have been placed on this part as well.

I am going to pray that he brings this up and goes more in depth with it.....opinions can be argued, but science cannot.

I cannot believe Mr. Baez has directed a personal attack towards the prosecutor, Ashton!

I missed it! What did he say?!

Omg...omg!! Jose should have watched "My Cousin Vinny" to get points on what not to do.

Pointed to him during closing and referred to him as "this smiling...." (I forget exact word). Judge called him up to sidebar immediately and 15 minute break was taken w jurors excused and both Ashton and Baez going into chamber.

Sorry, exact words were "this laughing guy right here" as he pointed at Ashton.

If Baez doesn't soon wrap up his closing argument, I can't take this on and on! I wonder what the jury thinks?

I think Baez is wearing out his listeners. If you can't say it in 2 hours, you are too wordy!

No kidding. LOL I also heard I thought that Cheny Mason was going to get up and talk as well. But with time running out I;m not sure.

Yep Cheny Mason is going to talk. If I was on the jury I was be tired of this by now.

I could just kick myself, I had to be out all day and forgot to Tivo the darn closings today....errrr.

Anyone know where I maybe able to catch it on line?

I don't think you have to worry too much--HLN reruns trial stuff so much, you'll never miss anything!:D

You bet I got set to tape Nancy Grace. She will give the blow by blow;)

Wouldn't you know getting ready to leave again to go watch fireworks...bad timing. I have watched the entire trial and so hate to miss anything. :cool:

I hope that the prosecution uses the quote from the coroner, Dr G, in his further summation tomorrow.

Ashton shouldn't have been smiling/laughing like that. It was disrespectful to the court. Baez went on so long & would have fallen asleep. I'm glad that Ashton gets to elaborate tomorrow when the jury is fresh to explain what true reasonable doubt is. The jury just has to use common sense. If it makes sense or not.

I recorded it all and just got finished watching, I'm so exhausted, I can't imagine how tired the jury is. I really believe they've got a case for first degree. Prosecution can still tie up some loose ends tomorrow, but there's really no doubt in my mind.

I really hope they convict her and give sweet Caylee the justice she deserves. I don't have cable, so I can't watch the trial even though I've wanted to. I'm catching up by reading this thread and googling news articles. Are they supposed to reach a verdict soon?

You can watch all of it on youtube videos.

I don't think there can be a "reasonable" doubt. Problem is, one or more of those jurors may be one of those who has to have a picture of the murderer holding a vial of chloroform in one hand and a roll of duct tape in the other. Some people don't seem to be able to use any logical or legal inference from a series of related facts when it comes to 1st degree murder and if there is one or more of those on the jury, it will be a problem for the prosecution. I'm glad the judge allowed the prosecution another day - plus they can now include the charge to the jury explanation with their rebuttal as I understand. That could be a real plus, unless there is a rogue juror. I know the prosecution case has convinced me is was premeditated murder once they had the testimony about the three pieces of duct tape in the area of where the nose and mouth would be. How likely is it that those pieces of duct tape - that might be from anywhere and anyone in that swampy woods, according to the defense, ended up attached to the hair on the skull and in the area right where a nose and mouth would be if any soft tissue were left? Big coincidence? And if not a coincidence, we all know why it was there and who was last with that child before she had duct tape on her. There is no evidence anyone else was with Caylee before she died except the mother. The prosecution has a witness, the grandfather, that places the child with her mother when last seen alive.

As to any lies by the grandfather about an "affair", remember when all the talking heads said that "everyone lies about sex" when Bill Clinton was caught lying to the Grand Jury? They said that lying about sex is done by everybody and it doesn't impeach everything else you do in life. Seems like almost everyone has forgotten that now that talks on TV! They want to hold George to a totally different standard than they did Bill.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how the prosecution closes tomorrow and then we will all see what happens!

It hasn't gone to the jury yet. Prosecution did an excellent job giving a time line and what he believe happened and the motive for it. Next, Jose tried to break holes in the persecution case by painting Casey an innocent victim who made some wrong decisions, and it snowballed out of control. He did call her a lying slut a lot though. When your defense attorney calls you a lying slut multiple times, you know your case is weak. Jose’s argument went on too long, and I fast forwarded through lots of it. Next, Cheney Mason, another defense attorney, talked about the fine points of the law rather than any facts. Tomorrow the prosecution will have a chance to rebut anything the defense said, and then the judge will give instructions on what they can find. So they will start deliberating some time tomorrow.

I’m a little confused on one point, and I think they’ll discuss this more tomorrow. It sounds like the jury can find “premeditated murder” or something like, “aggravated child abuse resulting in death” both of which would be “felony homicide”. I probably didn’t say that right, but it sounds like she didn’t have to necessarily “plan” the murder in order for the jury to find “felony homicide", but it sounded like both would result in a death sentence, and this is what I'm confused about.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but, I thought only the majority was needed to vote for the death penalty in the state of Florida and so the jury doesn't need to be unanimous?

You're right...both would be death penalty.

I do believe she caused that baby's death, but I also believe that when Caylee was alive, Casey had been a good mother. No one ever said anything negative about her mothering...which I do find shocking.