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TammyJM 06-28-2011 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 143julz (Post 3580247)
Sorry about my above post...this explains (well maybe, if its even the truth)
His family says no, but his brother does say that he knows that he slept with Casey. The man in question is now deceased so maybe it would be too much for his family to know, at this point.

chachi 06-28-2011 12:03 PM
I think Roy is very credible. The defense is trying to prove that Roy removed the body so the prosecutions forensics about the body are not credible. It is a stretch on the defenses part and they havent proved he removed the body.

Nancy1999 06-28-2011 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3580190)
Wasn't the police officer that was fired, the one that admited to sleeping with Casey?

Take a look at this....it all makes sense.
audio

Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla calls in to talk about the Casey... | K Morning Crew | www.k92fm.com
Just listened to the audio part, I believe lots of his theory regarding Casey, as he talked with her first hand and was one of her biggest supporters, so I think he did come into this with an open mind. I don't know if he's as accurate with Kronk, as he didn't really talk with him, but talked to exwives etc. However, even if Kronk heard about this via a girlfriend at the police office, I don't see how that makes a difference in the case.

Interesting he believes they will put her on the stand, and she will hold her own, goes again to say, what a “good liar” people say she is. This tape is really worth hearing a couple of times, thanks for posting it.

TammyJM 06-28-2011 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3580250)
His family says no, but his brother does say that he knows that he slept with Casey. The man in question is now deceased so maybe it would be too much for his family to know, at this point.
They keep saying that the father died in a car accident. The guy that I posted pictures of did not die in a car accident, but he did take his own life. His family felt that it was because of his horrible pain that he was in due to his back injuries from being a hit and run incident that rolled the van that he was in.

TammyJM 06-28-2011 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3580259)
Just listened to the audio part, I believe lots of his theory regarding Casey, as he talked with her first hand and was one of her biggest supporters, so I think he did come into this with an open mind. I don't know if he's as accurate with Kronk, as he didn't really talk with him, but talked to exwives etc. However, even if Kronk heard about this via a girlfriend at the police office, I don't see how that makes a difference in the case.

Interesting he believes they will put her on the stand, and she will hold her own, goes again to say, what a “good liar” people say she is. This tape is really worth hearing a couple of times, thanks for posting it.
You are very welcome! I found the tape very interesting and believable because he did work so closely with the family and he knew what they were planning even before it happened.

TammyJM 06-28-2011 03:29 PM
I am so brokenhearted for this family! No matter how many mistakes people think they have made (which we really don't know the facts), the whole thing is awful!! Did you guys see how George paused for awhile today when asked if he had told "River Cruz" that this was an accident that snowballed? He was squirming VERY badly and had a hard time saying no to that question. They are grieving the loss of their precious granddaughter that they cherished and also facing the possibility of their daughter as well.
(Video is a few months old)

Nancy1999 06-28-2011 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3580401)
I am so brokenhearted for this family! No matter how many mistakes people think they have made (which we really don't know the facts), the whole thing is awful!! Did you guys see how George paused for awhile today when asked if he had told "River Cruz" that this was an accident that snowballed? He was squirming VERY badly and had a hard time saying no to that question. They are grieving the loss of their precious granddaughter that they cherished and also facing the possibility of their daughter as well.
YouTube - ‪George Anthony Tears Up On The Stand‬‏
(Video is a few months old)
Yeah I agree, people are so hard on them. Psychologists say that people like to blame the family because it sets them apart from their families, and it makes them feel like something this horrible could never happen to them or their families. If they blame the family and think of them as horrible or weird, it makes them feel like their families are safe. As in, Casey was this way, because her whole family is horrible. I'm not sure why Casey is the way she is, but I think her family is being judged way too harshly. I mean so many people in her life had no idea she was lying about so much, and I thnk Cindy finally realized it the night she intially called 911, but thinking your daughter is a spoiled lying thief is still a big step away from thinking she's a murderer.

I saw this video on YouTube, look what they’ve been going through for more than a year at their home. To some people they weren’t doing enough to find Casey.

TammyJM 06-28-2011 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3580420)
Yeah I agree, people are so hard on them. Psychologists say that people like to blame the family because it sets them apart from their families, and it makes them feel like something this horrible could never happen to them or their families. If they blame the family and think of them as horrible or weird, it makes them feel like their families are safe. As in, Casey was this way, because her whole family is horrible. I'm not sure why Casey is the way she is, but I think her family is being judged way too harshly. I mean so many people in her life had no idea she was lying about so much, and I thnk Cindy finally realized it the night she intially called 911, but thinking your daughter is a spoiled lying thief is still a big step away from thinking she's a murderer.

I saw this video on YouTube, look what they’ve been going through for more than a year at their home. To some people they weren’t doing enough to find Casey.


YouTube - ‪CINDY LETS IT RIP AND MAKES A SLIP-UNCUT‬‏
I completely agree with you about her family. I saw this youtube video last night and paid little attention to the Anthonys because I was so distracted by how awful the mothers were! I think they are HORRENDOUS role models to their children that they brought with them!!!! Did you see, at the end of the video, where the one mom didn't notice that she smashed her own son's arm in the car door?! :thumbdown:eek: Cindy was saying that they needed DCF to be called on them and I agree....those women were horrible!

Nancy1999 06-28-2011 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3580426)
I completely agree with you about her family. I saw this youtube video last night and paid little attention to the Anthonys because I was so distracted by how awful the mothers were! I think they are HORRENDOUS role models to their children that they brought with them!!!! Did you see, at the end of the video, where the one mom didn't notice that she smashed her own son's arm in the car door?! :thumbdown:eek: Cindy was saying that they needed DCF to be called on them and I agree....those women were horrible!
I know, they slam his arm in the door, he falls to the ground and they completely ignore him, meanwhile screaming what a horrible mom Cindy is.

TammyJM 06-28-2011 04:19 PM
I just keep praying that Casey decides to be completely honest and to start telling what really happened. I think it was an accident that should have never happened and that she was WAYYYYYYYYYY too nonchalant about giving her baby drugs to get her to sleep. I believe what the bounty hunter said happened.....it makes me sick that it really did happen.

As a mommy myself, I cannot imagine giving my children ANYTHING like this! I take it EXTREMELY seriously just giving them Ibuprofen when they are sick. I don't like giving them any medicine, if I can help it. Maybe her lifestyle and immature personality had an impact on this type of decision.

Are they saying that she supposedly gave Caylee the Chloroform in a shot form? That's another thing that boggles my mind as a mommy....I could NEVER force a needle into my children! :( I cry when the doctor gives my kids shots.

ladyjane 06-28-2011 05:02 PM
I will not be waiting for Casey's true confessions...ever! Just watching her joking around yesterday turned my stomach. Something about her smirk just made me cringe. I don't think she has any feelings of remorse at all...incapable of it more than likely. Typical sociopath.

J_is_my_initial 06-28-2011 05:59 PM
One thing i have never understood. If I remember correctly it has been said that Casey had been using Zanny the Nanny for awhile according to some report or video, by her own words. If the grandparents were so close to their grandchild (and they certainly seem to have been close) why they never met the so called nanny?

About George and the alleged affair. He might have been getting comfort from her. Many times a death of a loved one drives marriages apart. He seemed really uncomfortable on the stand when questioned about it. He sd He did not confide in anyone. That could be taken 2 ways. That he did not confide the truth to anyone, or there was nothing to confide.

dolsgirl 06-28-2011 06:00 PM
Totally looks evil in that picture w/the link.

ladyjane 06-28-2011 06:08 PM
Did anyone hear that the prosecution has called rebuttal witnesses from Cindy Anthony's place of employment?
I swore I heard that...but cannot find anything online about it.

itsbaddangel 06-28-2011 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3580562)
Did anyone hear that the prosecution has called rebuttal witnesses from Cindy Anthony's place of employment?
I swore I heard that...but cannot find anything online about it.
THey just said it on Dr. Drew's show. 2 worker's from "Geneva" will testify tomorrow.

ladyjane 06-28-2011 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by itsbaddangel (Post 3580566)
THey just said it on Dr. Drew's show. 2 worker's from "Geneva" will testify tomorrow.
I swore I heard it...I was walking past the tv at the time and was not sure if that was it...or if they were merely speculating. Thanks!
Honestly, I don't understand people who think what she did is ok...I don't care how much she loves her daughter...she was under oath...and if she lied should be charged with perjury.

TammyJM 06-28-2011 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3580575)
I swore I heard it...I was walking past the tv at the time and was not sure if that was it...or if they were merely speculating. Thanks!
Honestly, I don't understand people who think what she did is ok...I don't care how much she loves her daughter...she was under oath...and if she lied should be charged with perjury.
I think, if she lied, she was definitely wrong but I also cannot even begin to imagine how she is feeling. I feel that she should protect her granddaughter's memory and do the right thing. I would like to say that I wouldn't lie for one of my children, but on the other hand.....I know that I would do ANYTHING to protect my children. So is she wrong if she did indeed lie, of course....but I can only speculate what I would do in her situation.

She also may be justifying it all in her heart if she truly feels it was an accident. I don't know....

Krystee 06-28-2011 06:45 PM
Two of Cindy's employers are on the prosecutions witness list for their rebuttal case. I can't imagine they will testify tomorrow though... the defense hasn't even rested their case yet, have they?

tjdmom 06-28-2011 07:00 PM
I haven't been able to watch any of it, and frankly don't know if I'd want to. The whole thing is just heartbreaking.... :( It's hard for me to imagine any mother doing that to her own child.....

ladyjane 06-28-2011 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3580597)
I think, if she lied, she was definitely wrong but I also cannot even begin to imagine how she is feeling. I feel that she should protect her granddaughter's memory and do the right thing. I would like to say that I wouldn't lie for one of my children, but on the other hand.....I know that I would do ANYTHING to protect my children. So is she wrong if she did indeed lie, of course....but I can only speculate what I would do in her situation.

She also may be justifying it all in her heart if she truly feels it was an accident. I don't know....
All I can say is that my son knows full well that if he were ever to do something that horrific, his mother will not be on a witness stand lying for him.

I would do just about anything to protect him from harm. What I will not do is make excuses if he breaks the law.

Enabling is probably part of the reason that Casey is who she is..not saying it is all the parents' fault; but it sure does look to me like they have been part of her problem...not part of the solution.

yorkietalkjilly 06-29-2011 01:20 AM
The very best way to learn from anything is to deal with the consequences ourselves. Lying and covering for things our loved onces do doesn't really help them - it just perpetuates bad behavior and the wrong doer is once again bolstered in the bad behavior and learns there will always be someone to get them out of it. Well, almost always. Sometimes the enabled person does something so horrific even the best "covering" isn't sufficient. But after a lifetime of being covered, will Casey Anthony learn from this and understand finally that loved ones cannot always get one out of one's messes and start to grow up? Probably not - she will probably just be angry with her mother for not being skilled enough to help her this time and her mother's apparent lying will all be for naught.

Reese1 06-29-2011 02:51 AM
I was watching HLN last night and they went to the site where Caylee was found vs. where that guy who was on the stand searched. It was like 40-50 feet or something like that.
I didn't get to see the testimony, but did the prosecution address that the video shot was NOT the exact location that she was found?

Also, didn't Lee contradict his mom's testimony about sending the investigators to the search area or did I hear that wrong?

They did mention that people Cindy worked with would be testifying. I hope she didn't lie on the stand. You would think that could be easily proven. I don't know why she would risk it.

sugarmamma 06-29-2011 05:06 AM
This is DAY 31 OF THE TRIAL.......


THE SAME NUMBER OF DAYS LITTLE CAYLEE WAS DEAD AND NOT REPORTED "MISSING"


:rip: CMA :love:

marcie 06-29-2011 06:36 AM
I just can't imagine anyone doing that to their little one. I would running crazy thru the streets screaming my head off if mine were missing.

Alvindy 06-29-2011 06:43 AM
All I can say is that it is good that this little one is in a better place now. The poor little thing must have had a tumultuous life with the mother she had. Her grandparents were probably the most stable relationship she had in her short life. It's very sad really...

Princes mom 06-29-2011 07:03 AM
Very sad. I really feel for Geirge.

dolsgirl 06-29-2011 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3580575)
I swore I heard it...I was walking past the tv at the time and was not sure if that was it...or if they were merely speculating. Thanks!
Honestly, I don't understand people who think what she did is ok...I don't care how much she loves her daughter...she was under oath...and if she lied should be charged with perjury.
ITA. If people lie how can they ever expect anyone to actually believe them?If she's shown to be a liar she should be charged w/perjury.

JesStang 06-29-2011 07:32 AM
I get to watch a little bit in our break room at work. She's so irritating! All these people are being put through hell because of her!! Just tell us what happened to your daughter and you'd probably only be charged with negligence! GRR! :mad:

gidget529 06-29-2011 08:55 AM
I am so proud of George this am! Finally someone did the right thing (the hard thing) and told the truth about this horrible situation! I have seen dead children brought into a hospital w parent (s) lying about the abuse/neglect child was subjected to that caused death at the hand of a parent or boyfriend in the home. George renewed my faith in mankind!

TammyJM 06-29-2011 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gidget529 (Post 3581048)
I am so proud of George this am! Finally someone did the right thing (the hard thing) and told the truth about this horrible situation! I have seen dead children brought into a hospital w parent (s) lying about the abuse/neglect child was subjected to that caused death at the hand of a parent or boyfriend in the home. George renewed my faith in mankind!
I agree with you...George is doing great and my heart really goes out to him.


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