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Old 03-26-2010, 09:38 AM   #1
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I ran across this video on YouTube... and I cannot believe this has never been aired on television. Of course, the media only plays the BAD things or takes snippets of Michael Jackson talking and makes him out to be this wacko creep. This documentary gives you another side... all of the FACTS of the trial and why he's innocent. And IMO, it's not biased. The 1st part will explain the person who made the documentary, but I like this video because it provides facts and the jurors, etc. It's amazing what the media can do to a person.

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You may be interested in reading Ian Halperin's book Unmasked. He started this book with the intent to prove Micheal was guilty of the charges...and discovered different.

I found Micheal Jackson to be a sad lonely man and quite frankly the fact he preferred the company of children...well...creepy.
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You may be interested in reading Ian Halperin's book Unmasked. He started this book with the intent to prove Micheal was guilty of the charges...and discovered different.

I found Micheal Jackson to be a sad lonely man and quite frankly the fact he preferred the company of children...well...creepy.
Never read the book, but I have heard about it, and Ian Halperin. From what I understand, his sources are very vague. He states pretty outrageous claims such as Michael could not walk due to a disease... if that were the case, how was he dancing all these past months for the This is It tour? I know he "predicted" that Michael would be dead within 6 months because of a fatal disease... there was no fatal disease that he had.. he had a drug problem -- that's not necessarily a fatal disease. And personally, I find it pretty crumby of him to start doing all this after MJ's death... seems to me he's all about the money and publicity and he took MJ's death to his advantage. He also is planning to make a movie. I think he's full of it. He also only met MJ once. I do give it to him for coming out and saying that MJ is NOT a child molester. Lik you said, he stated he went into the project trying to prove he was guilty... but he couldn't find anything and found evidence leading towards him being innocent. It seems to me he was only out to prove MJ was gay (of course, I have NOT read the book, because I won't put money in the pocket of such a man) but I really don't care if MJ was gay or not. I personally don't think he was... I believe that more than anything he was probably more on the asexual side, but again... who knows. I'd check out the book if I could find a copy on ebay or something.

I 100% believe he's innocent, but not simply because of this video I posted. I've done pretty thorough research on the matter and I completely believe he is innocent. I will admit... I wasn't so sure before. I was always 50/50. Sometimes I believed he could never do it, other times, I thought, okay maybe he is kinda creepy, and maybe he was messed up enough to do something. But I just don't buy it anymore.

I don't know if you watched the video... but the boy Gavin who claimed Michael molested him was an actor. He had taken many acting classes before AND his mother had used her sons to scam a few other people, including trying to get to Jay Leno and Chris Rock. They also won money in a JC Penny lawsuit, where the mother claimed an offer had beat her up, etc. The boy from '93 has already come out at one point and stated his father made him say all those things... and he has now committed suicide. The reason I like this video is because it states FACTS. Ian Halperin just seems to ramble (Ive seen interviews, etc) and not really state any sources.

I think Michael was a totally lost soul... he was never really happy, always very lonely, and trusted pretty much nobody. He always tried to do good and did sooo much humanitarian work, yet anything he did, it always seemed to backfire on him. The whole documentary that Bashir did in 2003 was supposed to be a positive one and he led Michael to believe that's what it would be. Michael opened up his heart and soul to this man, and when you see the unedited clips from that documentary, it's amazing the different. Bashir made him out to be a total complete wackjob, but in the "unseen" clips, you would see a total different thing. They also cut out after Michael said "sleeping in your bed is fine" (or whatever he said) he finished with "BUT I slept on the floor, and gave the child my bed!" I also don't think Michael was as weird as most people portrayed him to be, and sometimes I think he brought a lot of the rumors on himself by dressing the way he did and doing certain things he did... but that doesn't mean he was a bad person.

Personally... I don't think wanting to spend most of your time with children is much different than over half of us on this board who would rather spend time with our dogs. They have an innocence about him (as do dogs) and give you unconditional love. They don't judge you and you can trust them. Do I think it was a smart move for a 45 year old man to allow children into his bed, after already suffering through one child molestation trial? No. I think Michael should have used a bit more common sense in that one... but I truly think he was so oblivious to a lot of things in the world and just didn't think like most people do. Why does sharing a bed with someone always have to be turned sexual?

Sorry... this is *so* long. But it's something I feel strongly about after much of the reading and researching I've done (even before MJ's death) and just like to get the word out there. Because most people don't know these behind the scenes things. I understand everyone is going to different opinions and that's fine.
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Actually Halperin's book was very favorable.
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I don't know if these tapes will change anyone's mind, Martin Bashir must have known that suggesting Michael of this was absolutely the worst thing he could have done to Michael. Michael had such a strong belief that we should protect children, and not take their innocence away too soon. I believe that Bashir documentary set a string of events that led to Michael's death, too many people wanted to use Michael to enrich themselves. There are those who want to believe he's guilty, he was certainly different than most people, but I think he had one of the purest hearts I've ever seen, and I truly believe that he was touched by God.

I think these tapes are important for another reason, and that is, "Will a celebrity ever get a fair trial?" As they say on these videos, the news wants to use controversial sound bites; they aren't looking for the truth. After that, the damage is done, whether they are shown innocent or not. I would have rather had Michael accused of murder than child molestation; I think he just couldn't bear to have anyone think that of him. I'm not sure how many people would understand that unless they truly understood Michael's view of children, and how God-like they were. I wish there had been more things like this before his death, maybe if enough people had gotten behind him, and acted like they believed him, he wouldn't have needed such extreme help in sleeping. Thanks for posting these, the world lost such a wonderful gift when we lost Michael.
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I would like to remeber him as a kind giving soul, a great father and a talent that was so magical no performer will ever come close to being his equal. From child to adulthood he completely missed out on the life we all take for granted, family, friends, trust, loyalty and falling in love. The media did a great job ruining his life, he was stabbed in the back countless times by his own family, friends, business partners, and greedy vicious people who wanted his money. He loved making people happy and sharing his talent with the world, I believe that is what kept him going so long. The bigger he became the worse off he was. My heart breaks when I think of what his final days were like. If his doctor was the man and friend he claimed to be Michael would be alive and sober IMO.
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Michael was a such a lovely sweet man, and was very intelligent. He has brought so much joy to so many people in this cruel world! My daughters and I can't go a day without listening to Michael's songs, and absolutely adoring the person he was! He will NEVER be forgotten! Unfortunately, so many people believe everything the bl*ody media says, and I think this is very sad. The media have the power to absolutely destroy a person, and it's sickening all the lies they tell! Michael is 100% innocent!!! If more people took the time to research, and find out the real man he was, instead of what the media portray, I'm sure they would realise what a wonderful person he was. He loved to help people, and did help so many people! He loved to spend time with children, and watch them having fun, because he never had that childhood that he believes every child should have! I love you so much Michael, wherever you are!!!
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There has not ever been a talent like MJ and probably never will be - All the controversary surrounding him in his later years will never take away from what he gave the world. He was a slammin artist and will always be #1 in my book.

ps -- the man seemed so unhappy with his own body which is sad - he was so good looking and it was painful to see him trying to change his natural beauty

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I don't know if these tapes will change anyone's mind, Martin Bashir must have known that suggesting Michael of this was absolutely the worst thing he could have done to Michael. Michael had such a strong belief that we should protect children, and not take their innocence away too soon. I believe that Bashir documentary set a string of events that led to Michael's death, too many people wanted to use Michael to enrich themselves. There are those who want to believe he's guilty, he was certainly different than most people, but I think he had one of the purest hearts I've ever seen, and I truly believe that he was touched by God.

I think these tapes are important for another reason, and that is, "Will a celebrity ever get a fair trial?" As they say on these videos, the news wants to use controversial sound bites; they aren't looking for the truth. After that, the damage is done, whether they are shown innocent or not. I would have rather had Michael accused of murder than child molestation; I think he just couldn't bear to have anyone think that of him. I'm not sure how many people would understand that unless they truly understood Michael's view of children, and how God-like they were. I wish there had been more things like this before his death, maybe if enough people had gotten behind him, and acted like they believed him, he wouldn't have needed such extreme help in sleeping. Thanks for posting these, the world lost such a wonderful gift when we lost Michael.
I agree. I think Bashir's documentary was the end of him honestly. It seemed like he was finally becoming happy with his life again... he had his 3 children, he was working on a new album after 2001's Invincible, and then Bashir made the documentary the way that he did: focusing on all the weirdness of Michael and ultimately, leading to his child molestation trial.

There's actually another YouTube video of a show Maury (I think?) hosted and it shows all the unshown footage from the Living with Michael Jackson special... and it's amazing how normal he was in the regular videos, whereas Bashir portrayed him as this whacko in all of his. Grrr... just so frustrating. I can't believe how betrayed MJ must have felt.
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I agree. I think Bashir's documentary was the end of him honestly. It seemed like he was finally becoming happy with his life again... he had his 3 children, he was working on a new album after 2001's Invincible, and then Bashir made the documentary the way that he did: focusing on all the weirdness of Michael and ultimately, leading to his child molestation trial.

There's actually another YouTube video of a show Maury (I think?) hosted and it shows all the unshown footage from the Living with Michael Jackson special... and it's amazing how normal he was in the regular videos, whereas Bashir portrayed him as this whacko in all of his. Grrr... just so frustrating. I can't believe how betrayed MJ must have felt.
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I think celebrities can be made to look however good, or however bad,the media protrays them and there's no disputing that Michael was eccentric, for whatever reasons. Regardless, I have personally always held out judgement regarding the molestation charges and think the only people that will truly ever know are the parties involved.

I, like alot of the world, grew up with Michael and no matter what you may think of him, not many can disupte his incredible music and talents. I, like alot of the world, miss him...and am hoping that he can rest in peace......finally.
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I think celebrities can be made to look however good, or however bad,the media protrays them and there's no disputing that Michael was eccentric, for whatever reasons. Regardless, I have personally always held out judgement regarding the molestation charges and think the only people that will truly ever know are the parties involved.

I, like alot of the world, grew up with Michael and no matter what you may think of him, not many can disupte his incredible music and talents. I, like alot of the world, miss him...and am hoping that he can rest in peace......finally.
Definitely! I hope he can finally be at peace.
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I agree. I think Bashir's documentary was the end of him honestly. It seemed like he was finally becoming happy with his life again... he had his 3 children, he was working on a new album after 2001's Invincible, and then Bashir made the documentary the way that he did: focusing on all the weirdness of Michael and ultimately, leading to his child molestation trial.
You really can't blame the correspondent for what winds up on TV. That's more up to the editors and producers, and their motivations and perspective may be the complete opposite from the reporter's. With anything, there's the story, the facts and the truth....and they all most likely won't resemble each other at all.

That being said, Michael grew up in the public eye and should have known better than to give someone so much ammo that could be used against him.

There's a part of me that feels for him, but he lived so far outside of societal norms as to leave himself open to judgment. As sad of a man as he was at the end, he was just that arrogant about his lifestyle in the years preceding. In that sense, he brought much of it on himself. Society is not obligated to understand those with *eccentric* behavior towards other people's children.
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You really can't blame the correspondent for what winds up on TV. That's more up to the editors and producers, and their motivations and perspective may be the complete opposite from the reporter's. With anything, there's the story, the facts and the truth....and they all most likely won't resemble each other at all.

That being said, Michael grew up in the public eye and should have known better than to give someone so much ammo that could be used against him.

There's a part of me that feels for him, but he lived so far outside of societal norms as to leave himself open to judgment. As sad of a man as he was at the end, he was just that arrogant about his lifestyle in the years preceding. In that sense, he brought much of it on himself. Society is not obligated to understand those with *eccentric* behavior towards other people's children.
Yes, but Bashir made MANY critical and judgmental comments and snide remarks throughout the narration of the show... so he clearly had some opinions he was trying to get out there. He would ask question after question, almost trying to get one quote that he could use against Michael, but never really listened to what he had to say, or even tried to understand. He also wasn't even allowed to practice journalism anymore in Britain. Michael trusted him mostly because he had conducted an interview with his friend, Princess Diana, years before. Now of course, after Michael's death, Bashir has commented he "never saw Michael doing anything wrong at Neverland..."

The last years of Michael's life, he pretty much stayed as far away as he could from anybody and everybody, and was not really in the press until his death. He actually lived in Ireland for a bit with his children, undisturbed by pap's and press like he was in the US... he was able to go bowling with his kids, go to regular places, and people would recognize him, but they didn't bother him.

Society is not obligated to do anything... I think the world just wasn't ready for a man like Michael Jackson. He always seemed so far ahead of his time -- he cared for this planet and the human race very deeply and I only wish we had more people like him. Was he eccentric and different? Of course. But I think, with the way he grew up, you're bound to be different. Really... not one single other person on this planet has garnered as much as media attention as MJ did, did he bring some of it on himself? Yes... but he never asked for most of it. The man couldn't even get in and of out of a vehicle and into a store 5 feet away without hundred's of people in his face with a camera or a microphone. He was a super talented man who still claims the biggest album ever sold in history... but that doesn't mean people have to be idiots. I always wanted to say just leave him alone for God's sake! Britney Spears had it pretty bad for a while too.
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I believe he was a misunderstood man being in the spotlight from such a young age never had the chance to grow up and that's why he liked being around children. I saw an interview that was done with his bodyguard not too long ago if I can find the link I will post it. The picture they made of him was alot different than the way the media portrayed him.
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