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crystalsmom · 08-05-2009, 05:33 AM

Hi Misty, so do you think it is ok for his hometown to celebrate him?

Also thanks 'V' we need to keep sending emails and I haven't heard back from the C of C. yet.

BamaFan121s · 08-05-2009, 05:42 AM

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Hi Misty, so do you think it is ok for his hometown to celebrate him?

Hmmm...depends on what you mean by "OK."

Do I think he is someone who deserves to be celebrated? No...I would probably actually go in protest if I lived there.

He's done nothing that deserves being celebrated!

I wonder, and I didn't see it anywhere, is it the actual CITY itself, as in the governing bodies, that is throwing the celebration, or is it citizens within the city?
If it is actually the city itself throwing it, then that is absolutely ridiculous and no, I don't think it's acceptable. If it's the citizens themselves, then I think that is their right to do so. Although again, I think they are off their rockers and he doesn't deserve being exhaulted. And I think that if it's individuals hosting it, they should have to do it in a private location, not a public one.

Lou · 08-05-2009, 05:47 AM

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Although I could think of several valid reasons people could argue for why he should not be allowed back into the NFL, the whole "positive role model" for kids spill is NOT one of them. Why on Earth as a parent would you sit back and wait for your child's morals to be shaped and influenced by celebrities? That should be a parent's job, not something a celebrity should be responsible for! Furthermore, it's up to each parent to decide if Vick or anyone else is someone they want to allow their kids to look up to. (Although I can't imagine why anyone would!

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I think generally speaking and putting the matter simply: People dislike the fact that Vick is going to be allowed to go back to a job where he will be in the public eye and where he will be making lots of money.

Oh Misty please!

Yes it is the parents responsibility to shape and influence their children. But in this country we have too many children living in homes that do NOT have that type of parent. If we did then there would be no need for police departments and jails! How many young men (and women) do you think are out there right this very minute getting their dogs ready to fight. These children are being raised in that environment and Vick's behaviors just adds credence to it. The thought process is "OK Vick got caught but he only went to jail for a short time and is back earning millions. - So it can't be that wrong!" If we animal lovers and protectors ever hope to win the battle against abuses like dog fighting we HAVE to make sure that the punishment fits the crime and the vicious circle is broken just as in child abuse. I still can't get over the fact that Vick did not do it for the money. He did it for enjoyment! OMG!

Lou · 08-05-2009, 05:51 AM

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This was in this morning New Port News Daily Paper
Newport Daily News

I received an email from someone this morning saying the celebration was cancelled but I don't know them and I emailed back to see where they heard it.

I am emailing the Chamber of Commerce to ask them right now.

Oh no! Not my beloved Raiders! I thought Al Davis had mellowed in his old age.

crystalsmom · 08-05-2009, 05:58 AM

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Oh Misty please!

Yes it is the parents responsibility to shape and influence their children. But in this country we have too many children living in homes that do NOT have that type of parent. If we did then there would be no need for police departments and jails! How many young men (and women) do you think are out there right this very minute getting their dogs ready to fight. These children are being raised in that environment and Vick's behaviors just adds credence to it. The thought process is "OK Vick got caught but he only went to jail for a short time and is back earning millions. - So it can't be that wrong!" If we animal lovers and protectors ever hope to win the battle against abuses like dog fighting we HAVE to make sure that the punishment fits the crime and the vicious circle is broken just as in child abuse. I still can't get over the fact that Vick did not do it for the money. He did it for enjoyment! OMG!

I agree Lou, in a perfect world there would be parents that would be there for their children but it's not a perfect world and never will be. Now with this economy parents who were on top of things are working more hours and have no idea the influence sports adoration has on their child.

Misty, this is what I have
Organizer: Va. Vick 'celebration' postponed - Associated Press - NFL - Sporting News
It is being called a "Michael Vick Community Celebration"
Mr. Shannon Pres of Peninsula chapter of the southern leadership conf.

crystalsmom · 08-05-2009, 06:07 AM

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Oh no! Not my beloved Raiders! I thought Al Davis had mellowed in his old age.

I think there are alot of cities nervous and waiting

I'm thinking New England, please not Cleveland.

My scat driver yesterday brought it up lol yes really. He said people have killed people and not gotten as much punishment. I said people can talk to defend themselves and the dogs can't and he shut up.

BamaFan121s · 08-05-2009, 06:11 AM

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Yes it is the parents responsibility to shape and influence their children.

Exactly...simple concept.

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But in this country we have too many children living in homes that do NOT have that type of parent.

Children being brough up in an environment and not receiving what you or I perceive as adequate parenting is a different issue altogether.
Yes, I realize what the general thought process is when children don't have a parent their taking a proactive role. While I completely support educating people on the enormity of the problem and working to promote stricter punishments, I don't feel like it is my responsibility or right to make those decisions on behalf of other parents, regardless to how much I disagree with their methods.

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If we animal lovers and protectors ever hope to win the battle against abuses like dog fighting we HAVE to make sure that the punishment fits the crime and the vicious circle is broken

Yes, you are right, but the problem itself is horrible and reason enough to try to work towards change. Wouldn't you agree? Hasn't that always been the case? It didn't just now develop into an issue worth addressing because a celebrity got involved, did it? Because if the impact it's having on children with sorry parents in the main issue...then that is just NOW something that can be taken into consideration....

BamaFan121s · 08-05-2009, 06:20 AM

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Misty, this is what I have
Organizer: Va. Vick 'celebration' postponed - Associated Press - NFL - Sporting News
It is being called a "Michael Vick Community Celebration"
Mr. Shannon Pres of Peninsula chapter of the southern leadership conf.

OK, well from a "rights" standpoint, if they are a private organization choosing to hold the event, then I believe that is their "right" to do so, so long as they are not holding it on public property.

That being said, I don't think it's right to celebrate it...I think what he did was horrible and doesn't deserved being recognized in a positive manner.

Does that make sense? I don't condone or agree with what they are choosing to celebrate, but I think they are within their right to do so. People and organizations convene all the time for reasons I may not agree with, but I understand it's their 'right to assemble.' (Serioulsy, it makes me realize there are some seriously deluded people out there. Why on Earth would you celebrate him!?)

crystalsmom · 08-06-2009, 12:47 PM

Misty, I think as a hometown or any town they have the right to try to plan one but would people let that happen is yet to see.

No news today on this yet.

crystalsmom · 08-11-2009, 05:02 AM

Lou did you find anything else or anyone?

Kraft Indicates Vick Not In Patriots' Plans - CBS News

Lou · 08-11-2009, 01:08 PM

No, no news from this end.
Did you write any letters to the editor of any of the area newspapers about the celebration?
I wrote the Chamber again and let them know that I thought they had influence over situations like that and they should use rather than copping out like they did.

crystalsmom · 08-12-2009, 07:49 PM

Tonights News. He's going to Pittsburgh

not for sure they said but almost. Our local TV

crystalsmom · 08-13-2009, 05:25 PM

He Just Signed a Two Year Deal With the Philadelphia Eagles.

Vick, Eagles Reach 2-Year Deal - Sports News Story - WEWS Cleveland

Rerun201 · 08-13-2009, 05:31 PM

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He Just Signed a Two Year Deal With the Philadelphia Eagles.

Vick, Eagles Reach 2-Year Deal - Sports News Story - WEWS Cleveland

Yeah, I just got an email alert from CNN on it. SHAME on the Eagles organization!!!!!

:thumbdo wn

cataholic · 08-13-2009, 06:22 PM

I emailed the Eagles. I think anyone who thinks it's wrong should contact them.

08-05-2009, 05:33 AM	#76
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Hi Misty, so do you think it is ok for his hometown to celebrate him? Also thanks 'V' we need to keep sending emails and I haven't heard back from the C of C. yet. __________________

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crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Misty, I think as a hometown or any town they have the right to try to plan one but would people let that happen is yet to see. No news today on this yet. __________________

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crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Lou did you find anything else or anyone? Kraft Indicates Vick Not In Patriots' Plans - CBS News __________________

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Lou Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: A little town south of Chicago Posts: 4,525	No, no news from this end. Did you write any letters to the editor of any of the area newspapers about the celebration? I wrote the Chamber again and let them know that I thought they had influence over situations like that and they should use rather than copping out like they did. __________________ http://www.its-a-yorkie-thing.com Gracie Skeeter Adie Tyler

08-12-2009, 07:49 PM	#87
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Tonights News. He's going to Pittsburgh not for sure they said but almost. Our local TV __________________

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crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	He Just Signed a Two Year Deal With the Philadelphia Eagles. Vick, Eagles Reach 2-Year Deal - Sports News Story - WEWS Cleveland __________________

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