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02-10-2005, 07:01 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NorthWest Florida
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| how old does yorkie need to be for a stud Hey I was wondering what I have to do and how old beaker has to be to use him for a stud... I would love to have him be a stud..... Can any of you breeders let me know.... what does it depend on and what is needed.... I do know its like you get a pup or some money for useing him as a stud.. right?... please let me know some info.. thanks.... and if anyone are in northwest fl and would be interested in having beaker as a stud... then let me know... For all those who are interested Beaker should be around 3 pounds or less....has very nice hair...... thanks all
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02-11-2005, 05:05 AM | #2 |
Owned by Gyps and Gizz Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wales
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| I don't know enough about it but I hope that some of the breeders on here will come on and advise you - I do believe that if you do go ahead and use him as stud he probably may territory mark then... it is not possibly the good idea it may seem but of course that is your decision. Also a lot of homework has to be done re the mother and father's lines etc in order to produce healthy puppies. As I said I can't go into detail about this but think you are very wise to ask about this matter. Ana xx |
02-11-2005, 07:09 AM | #3 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| stud dogs I want a stud dog..LOL LOL ...forgive me..that was a goal of mine also ..LoL I have lived with many and they are not pets for the most part..they are leg cocking, peeing machines. Their noses are permenently stuck up someones butt..just checking to make sure none go unbred. I love my boys, but they must wear belly bands to prevent marking or be housed separate..the girls hate the pesky ones and demand for them to be penned, unless they are in heat, then they have a purpose. The girls hate pee in their water dishes and bedding, toys, their legs and any body part a male can reach to pee on..honestly they pee on each other. A neutered male is best pet anyone could ever ask for IMO...but if you want to breed, start by having your male evaluated by a reputable breeder...I know many..I would be happy to look at him and his pedigree..then send you to someone else for a second, third and as many opinions as you want. Best wishes |
02-11-2005, 08:40 AM | #4 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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| Stud dog It takes a bit of time for a males testies to drop I would suspect anytime after a year they are roaring to go...My male and female got together her first heat even tho I put pants one her and a band on him they were determined (thank god it didnt take) the male would have been 1.1 years old and the female would have been only 8 months old... Odd story yesterday I called an ad in the paper (Portland Oregon)re: yorkie stud $300 2.5 lbs so I called she said he a very small and excellent quality and if I would like I could call the breeder she got him from. His name is Jeffery and reported to be from the "Crown Royal" line which from what she had read has champions from Europe, Canada and also US but are back many generations and he is the last one of that "lineage." Next I called the breeder I asked one simple question was the male DNA tested, she went off on me so loud and rude. "Where did I come up with that question?" "That is stupid for me to even ask" "Crown Royal is an established champion name so I don't need to provide his genetics" I said "wow you sure are defensive" "I know as a responsible breeder if you are going to stud or do multiple littlers on a male you should DNA test" Finally she said "I will not prove my breeding by DNA testing and why would I need to anyway" I finally said "since your male is so tiny one might be more at ease knowing he has no gene defects" lol then she hung up on me. thought I would share for what its worth. Kimberly |
02-11-2005, 09:18 AM | #5 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TX
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| I used to have a male red toy poodle. I got approached by someone to use him as a stud when he was about 4 years old. Red toy poodles are not all that common - at least not in our area - so they had been searching for a stud. Oh, if I had known what it would turn him into! I had problems with him marking from then on, let me tell you! I don't think it really changed his personality though. He was our only dog and didn't see many other dogs very often so I didn't notice any of the other stuff but looking back on it, he did start the marking after that. I know it would be nice to be able to make money off of your precious little boy but listen to the advice that these knowledgeable people are giving you. It sounds like they know what they're talking about! I also thought about breeding Tatum (our Yorkie) at least once just to go through the experience but the things I have learned on the Yorkie forums have changed my mind. Tatum will be a year old on Valentine's Day and only weighs about 3.5 pounds. That's a great weight for studs apparently but not so safe for the mommies (sorry! can't bring myself to say the "b word"! LOL). Once I heard how dangerous it is for those little girls to carry and give birth, I changed my mind and she was spayed at about 7 months. I know that I do not know enough about this breed and breeding them to do the best job and protect my baby. Good luck with whatever you decide. Be sure to do your research! Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in!
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02-11-2005, 11:51 AM | #6 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
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| stud Two cents is worth millions! The word BITCH is the most beautiful word in dog language. If not for these "diamonds" we would have no babies..worth their weight in GOLD and diamonds. As to DNA..that breeder may not care, but AKC will have a few choice words if he is used more then 3 times in one year without a test on file...they get no papers until it done. Unfortunately, DNA testing is for ID purposes only. It tells the AKC who the sire is, if there is a dispute. I have asked numerous vets, teaching Universities, etc about DNA testing for genetic problem ie Liver shunt...these tests are not available as yet. People confuse the two..say their male is tested and if there is a problem it has to be the females because their male has a DNA test from AKC..apples and oranges. A new breeder should have their dogs checked for health problems, but to find out if Liver shunt runs in the line is not possible or just about anything from a DNA point...they have not clue as to how it is passed in the genes..or if it is..many can not agree...two perfectly normal liver Yorkies can have a Liver shunt pup. The best way to know about the line is to talk to other breeders who have the same lines..some will be honest, others will not. If a breeder never follows up on the litters at 6 months, 12 months, 5 years etc how will they know...some sell and never think about that litter again. As to Crown Royal...they have genetic problems just like any other Yorkie line...unless they have learned to make Yorkies from a substance unknown to humans...problems occur when dealing with Mother Nature, it is what the breeder does when they occur that makes them reputable. |
02-11-2005, 12:30 PM | #7 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NorthWest Florida
Posts: 82
| thank you everyong for the info... it was just a thought i had and did want to know more about it... it definitly would have to be something to think about for a long time... and i really dont know if i want beaker hiking his leg up on everything....... feminvstr...... sorry that women was so rude to you... but you are right... breeders should not have a problem with getting dogs tested if all is ok...... hey her lost right..... thanks again all....
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02-11-2005, 12:58 PM | #8 |
Owned by Gyps and Gizz Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wales
Posts: 629
| Hi Bianca!! I replied earlier to this post - we don't mean any harm just wanted you to realise what could happen!! I know you adore your baby now but arfe worried you may not be quite so keen if you used him as stud and he marked everything in site -- years ago I did not know either!! NOT that I had experience of this but better to be forewarned I think! I think you just want to enjoy your lovely boy as he is? We all want our yorkies wonderful characteristics to be carried on but it's not always practical by the sounds of it?! I still say you were very wise to ask first... tell us more about your baby boy..!! Ana xx |
02-11-2005, 03:51 PM | #9 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tennessee
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| He will need to be at least a year old and have all the test done like DNA Test and all the other ones it can cost alot but it is always good to know that it has been done and you have a healthy Yorkie! |
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