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hha · 11-10-2007, 04:22 PM

well, in the end, these 2 are going to have to work out their differences. Either Rachel gives this woman the rest of the money that they agreed upon, or this other woman gives her the deposit back and gets her dog back..the one I feel sorry for here is this poor dog, back and forth like it has no feelings what so ever!

Nikki+2 · 11-10-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Did you see her last post that I copied #220 that one really took the cake.

Ha ha- I some how missed that. That was really funny! Wow, I'm pretty impressed with her child support.

mypreciouspups · 11-10-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hha

It's like I said before, I'm not a 20 year old, I'm going on 51, I KNOW there are 2 sides to every story, and all of you are only listening to one side of the story..None of us have heard or seen anything that has gone on between these 2..yet you're all acting like a bunch of little bratty kids!

Well I am pretty old too, older then you I might add. You need to look at the story and think of you buying a puppy from puppyfind or a breeder or for that matter from anywhere..that was posted for sale...obviously you do not post a dog for sale once or anytime if you do not want to get rid of it..
But this is you, and you fall in love..and now the person wants the dog back. But you know that she never wanted it or would not have tried to sell it so many times..what would you do...come here for support..what would you say if some one came on here posting like you do.
I do not know either person. I am going by all this reading that is being posted. I am a yorkie lover, and could not imagine what this girl did to begin with. she seems to have lots of money they way she talks..but money seems to be the number 1 on her list.. how much can I get for this dog..how many people on YT saw this yorkie on puppy find over a long a time. gee it could have been you that fell in love with this dog..then what...it could still happen to you!
I sure would not want it to happen to me, if would break my heart.
EMPATHY my dear woman...

pooh's mum

hha · 11-10-2007, 04:34 PM

Well, let me tell you a little story..I had a little yorkie(she was 4 lbs) a few years ago..Well, I had a problem with her, not eating poop, but tearing it in to little pieces all over my house..I did love this little dog, but, having 3 other little ones in the house and her doing this, I couldn't handle it..They're pee pad trained, she would be in there with them waiting for them to use the bathroom so she could grab it before it even hit the pee pad..Now, I had all the dogs on deter, I also took her to the vet and had her on doggie prozac, nothing worked..So a lady that was on another forum that I was in said she would take her and work with her, well, after awhile, she told me that my little dog was still doing it..So, as much as I loved this little dog, I sold her for $200 to this woman..Well, maybe a year or so later, this lady got back with me, she said she couldn't keep my little girl anymore, so she was offering her back to me for the $200..Well, I called my sister in law and brother, they found someone to buy her, because I couldn't deal with her "habit", well, it didn't work out with the people that were going to buy her, so my brother and his wife got her, and they've had her now for 2 or 3 years and love her to death..so, I have been in these shoes, you make mistakes, you learn..I did the same thing, somedays I would look at her and say I can't get rid of her, and other days I was so upset, I would have given her to the first person that walked by..so, I do know how this other woman maybe made hasty decisions!

DianeW · 11-10-2007, 04:45 PM

I Just Wanted To Say How Sorry I Feel For Both Parties In This Situation. I Dont Know Either Of You, And Have Read This From The Very Beginning. There Is No Easy Solution, But It Makes Sense To Try To Come To A Compromise. This Is Mine........

This Is Only My Opinion But Here Goes, I Think That Maria, Should Go On With The Arrangement She Made And Sell Lola To Rachel For The Agreed Price Of $1000. I Believe That Is The Right Thing To Do, Even Though It Has Now Been Discovered That Lola Has Some Medical Issues.
It Was Not One Of The Conditions Of Purchase That Lola Would Be Vet Checked And Returned If Not 100% Healthy (sorry If I Am Mistaken).
Maria I Think You Should Explain To Your Little Boy That Lola Is Now Living With A New Family, And Is Very Happy. I Know It Is Sad But You Did Decide To Sell Her And You Would Have Had To Tell Him Sometime That She Had Gone Away. I Am Sure He Will Be Ok About It, It Just May Take A Little Time.

Rachel I Think You Should Pay The Other Money To Maria, As Soon As Possible, Then You Can Move On And Get On With Your Own Lives.

Just Put The Experience Down To A Big Misunderstanding And Learn From It For The Future......

Good Luck - I Truely Hope It All Works Out For You.

mypreciouspups · 11-10-2007, 05:03 PM

Nice Post DianeW..

I think only of this dog. The main thing is the dog. Now the dog seems to be settled in with a new owner..if she went back and down the road again thinks she needs to be sold. Then what about the dog.

I know dogs have emotions, have feelings, and cannot defend themselves and say, please let me be happy, us humans have to think about that, first and foremost.

And I want to add that yes there are times when one cannot look after a dog for what ever the reason..if you find a home, and it does not work, then you may need to help find another person to take the dog..but to sell a pup cause it did a pp on your bed, get mad at a one or two times event that most likely she was saying please pay attention to me...is not reason enough in my eyes..if everytime your dog did something wrong that you did not like you list the dog each time, then you get a buyer and then say oh no maybe i will not sell her..then you keep doing this..now your involving other people and their feelings also..
I am just trying to let others see other sides of a scenerio.

pooh's mum

flutterby · 11-10-2007, 05:34 PM

Coming from "The Business Law School Chick"

No.. I don't need to study farther. You both have interpreted the contract in two TOTALLY different ways. Therefore the contract is void based on that alone. Clear and Definite Terms is the kicker (which there wasn't). You sold Lola and that is that..

And the whole bit about her wanting Lola after just buying a puppy.. GUESS WHAT! I have 2 little girls (sisters) who are puppies and I'm in the market for a parti yorkie or a biewer!! And when I find the right one, I'll bring him/her home. She has apparently loved Lola when she was available before but got a little boy obviously never thinking she'd get Lola..

Also... I don't compare myself to Paris Hilton when I carry my girls in a bag.. It's convenient! My yorkies are my children and have more than most kids do! So they're not just a "possession" to me.. I think you've got that twisted...

Rachel.. Please, please, please do whatever it takes to keep Lola with you... I'd be heart broken if she left your home..

rachelsyorkie · 11-10-2007, 05:48 PM

Maria
I am glad you find this amusing, I am worried to death about what will happen to lola. If she would go back to you she would be happy because she hasnt known any other life, she doesnt know that you havent taken her to the vet to see she has LP's or that its harder to eat because of all the extra teeth. I will at first be the mean mommy that fixes all those things & its so sad. I wanted to go blow money on clothes, toys, beds, etc. spoil her & she would think I was wonderful. Now I will have to spend about $750 -$1000 for surgery & she will wonder why I am being so mean. You may not have flat out lied but you were not honest about lolas health. I dont believe I ever mentioned your name on here, I did not want to ruin your rep, I just wanted a few opinions. I feel if I give you the other $500 you will be the one worrying about karma because you know how I feel about lola, I think you knew about her health issues, as soon as I mentioned them you said you wanted her back, I had called you to try to negotiate the price, bottom line is your email stating you want her back as of 11.6.07 broke our contract & you do not have the deposit, the contract reads due upon termination which you did 11.6.07. I want whats best for lola & if you think taking me to court instead of doing the right thing will help anyone in anyway then go ahead.

GinosMommy · 11-10-2007, 05:49 PM

flutterby!

GinosMommy · 11-10-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelsyorkie

Maria
I am glad you find this amusing, I am worried to death about what will happen to lola. If she would go back to you she would be happy because she hasnt known any other life, she doesnt know that you havent taken her to the vet to see she has LP's or that its harder to eat because of all the extra teeth. I will at first be the mean mommy that fixes all those things & its so sad. I wanted to go blow money on clothes, toys, beds, etc. spoil her & she would think I was wonderful. Now I will have to spend about $750 -$1000 for surgery & she will wonder why I am being so mean. You may not have flat out lied but you were not honest about lolas health. I dont believe I ever mentioned your name on here, I did not want to ruin your rep, I just wanted a few opinions. I feel if I give you the other $500 you will be the one worrying about karma because you know how I feel about lola, I think you knew about her health issues, as soon as I mentioned them you said you wanted her back, I had called you to try to negotiate the price, bottom line is your email stating you want her back as of 11.6.07 broke our contract & you do not have the deposit, the contract reads due upon termination which you did 11.6.07. I want whats best for lola & if you think taking me to court instead of doing the right thing will help anyone in anyway then go ahead.

HallTx1203 · 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fashionista

I never said Lola had an exam by a vet. I offered that on PuppyFind. Rachel never once asked for it, or asked anything about her health. Lola has only been the vet once, when she was a puppy. I called when she was around a year old and they said they didn't need to see her until around three years old, unless something was wrong. She's not yet three years old, and I had no idea of any health issues.

What kind of a responsible mother would keep a pet around their child with out shots and vet care????

HallTx1203 · 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fashionista

I never said Lola had an exam by a vet. I offered that on PuppyFind. Rachel never once asked for it, or asked anything about her health. Lola has only been the vet once, when she was a puppy. I called when she was around a year old and they said they didn't need to see her until around three years old, unless something was wrong. She's not yet three years old, and I had no idea of any health issues.

What kind of a responsible mother would keep a pet around their child with out shots and vet care????

HallTx1203 · 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fashionista

I never said Lola had an exam by a vet. I offered that on PuppyFind. Rachel never once asked for it, or asked anything about her health. Lola has only been the vet once, when she was a puppy. I called when she was around a year old and they said they didn't need to see her until around three years old, unless something was wrong. She's not yet three years old, and I had no idea of any health issues.

What kind of a responsible mother would keep a pet around their child with out shots and vet care????

HallTx1203 · 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fashionista

I never said Lola had an exam by a vet. I offered that on PuppyFind. Rachel never once asked for it, or asked anything about her health. Lola has only been the vet once, when she was a puppy. I called when she was around a year old and they said they didn't need to see her until around three years old, unless something was wrong. She's not yet three years old, and I had no idea of any health issues.

What kind of a responsible mother would keep a pet around their child with out shots and vet care????

HallTx1203 · 11-10-2007, 06:18 PM

I am soooo sory...I do not know what happened.....4 times....eeeeekkkkkkk

11-10-2007, 04:45 PM	#245
DianeW YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cheshire, England. Posts: 489	I Just Wanted To Say How Sorry I Feel For Both Parties In This Situation. I Dont Know Either Of You, And Have Read This From The Very Beginning. There Is No Easy Solution, But It Makes Sense To Try To Come To A Compromise. This Is Mine........ This Is Only My Opinion But Here Goes, I Think That Maria, Should Go On With The Arrangement She Made And Sell Lola To Rachel For The Agreed Price Of $1000. I Believe That Is The Right Thing To Do, Even Though It Has Now Been Discovered That Lola Has Some Medical Issues. It Was Not One Of The Conditions Of Purchase That Lola Would Be Vet Checked And Returned If Not 100% Healthy (sorry If I Am Mistaken). Maria I Think You Should Explain To Your Little Boy That Lola Is Now Living With A New Family, And Is Very Happy. I Know It Is Sad But You Did Decide To Sell Her And You Would Have Had To Tell Him Sometime That She Had Gone Away. I Am Sure He Will Be Ok About It, It Just May Take A Little Time. Rachel I Think You Should Pay The Other Money To Maria, As Soon As Possible, Then You Can Move On And Get On With Your Own Lives. Just Put The Experience Down To A Big Misunderstanding And Learn From It For The Future...... Good Luck - I Truely Hope It All Works Out For You. __________________ Take Care - Diane and little Harvey MEMBER OF THE SPOILED ROTTEN CLUB AND PETITE PUPS UNITED

11-10-2007, 05:34 PM	#247
flutterby YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 402	Coming from "The Business Law School Chick" No.. I don't need to study farther. You both have interpreted the contract in two TOTALLY different ways. Therefore the contract is void based on that alone. Clear and Definite Terms is the kicker (which there wasn't). You sold Lola and that is that.. And the whole bit about her wanting Lola after just buying a puppy.. GUESS WHAT! I have 2 little girls (sisters) who are puppies and I'm in the market for a parti yorkie or a biewer!! And when I find the right one, I'll bring him/her home. She has apparently loved Lola when she was available before but got a little boy obviously never thinking she'd get Lola.. Also... I don't compare myself to Paris Hilton when I carry my girls in a bag.. It's convenient! My yorkies are my children and have more than most kids do! So they're not just a "possession" to me.. I think you've got that twisted... Rachel.. Please, please, please do whatever it takes to keep Lola with you... I'd be heart broken if she left your home.. __________________ Kenya - Mommy to Brooklynn , Bailey , Bella (biewer), and Peyton

11-10-2007, 05:49 PM	#249
GinosMommy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 2,161	flutterby! __________________ Stacy, Mommy to: Bianca the Bichon 3-6-06, Gino the yorkie 3-15-07 Last edited by GinosMommy; 11-10-2007 at 05:50 PM.

11-10-2007, 06:18 PM	#255
HallTx1203 Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CENTRAL TEXAS Posts: 1,867	I am soooo sory...I do not know what happened.....4 times....eeeeekkkkkkk __________________ Joyce and Shelby

11-10-2007, 04:22 PM	#241
hha No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 2,837	well, in the end, these 2 are going to have to work out their differences. Either Rachel gives this woman the rest of the money that they agreed upon, or this other woman gives her the deposit back and gets her dog back..the one I feel sorry for here is this poor dog, back and forth like it has no feelings what so ever!

11-10-2007, 04:34 PM	#244
hha No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 2,837	Well, let me tell you a little story..I had a little yorkie(she was 4 lbs) a few years ago..Well, I had a problem with her, not eating poop, but tearing it in to little pieces all over my house..I did love this little dog, but, having 3 other little ones in the house and her doing this, I couldn't handle it..They're pee pad trained, she would be in there with them waiting for them to use the bathroom so she could grab it before it even hit the pee pad..Now, I had all the dogs on deter, I also took her to the vet and had her on doggie prozac, nothing worked..So a lady that was on another forum that I was in said she would take her and work with her, well, after awhile, she told me that my little dog was still doing it..So, as much as I loved this little dog, I sold her for $200 to this woman..Well, maybe a year or so later, this lady got back with me, she said she couldn't keep my little girl anymore, so she was offering her back to me for the $200..Well, I called my sister in law and brother, they found someone to buy her, because I couldn't deal with her "habit", well, it didn't work out with the people that were going to buy her, so my brother and his wife got her, and they've had her now for 2 or 3 years and love her to death..so, I have been in these shoes, you make mistakes, you learn..I did the same thing, somedays I would look at her and say I can't get rid of her, and other days I was so upset, I would have given her to the first person that walked by..so, I do know how this other woman maybe made hasty decisions!

11-10-2007, 05:03 PM	#246
mypreciouspups Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida/Canada Posts: 5,514	Nice Post DianeW.. I think only of this dog. The main thing is the dog. Now the dog seems to be settled in with a new owner..if she went back and down the road again thinks she needs to be sold. Then what about the dog. I know dogs have emotions, have feelings, and cannot defend themselves and say, please let me be happy, us humans have to think about that, first and foremost. And I want to add that yes there are times when one cannot look after a dog for what ever the reason..if you find a home, and it does not work, then you may need to help find another person to take the dog..but to sell a pup cause it did a pp on your bed, get mad at a one or two times event that most likely she was saying please pay attention to me...is not reason enough in my eyes..if everytime your dog did something wrong that you did not like you list the dog each time, then you get a buyer and then say oh no maybe i will not sell her..then you keep doing this..now your involving other people and their feelings also.. I am just trying to let others see other sides of a scenerio. pooh's mum

11-10-2007, 05:48 PM	#248
rachelsyorkie Rachel & Tilula Belle Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 1,162	Maria I am glad you find this amusing, I am worried to death about what will happen to lola. If she would go back to you she would be happy because she hasnt known any other life, she doesnt know that you havent taken her to the vet to see she has LP's or that its harder to eat because of all the extra teeth. I will at first be the mean mommy that fixes all those things & its so sad. I wanted to go blow money on clothes, toys, beds, etc. spoil her & she would think I was wonderful. Now I will have to spend about $750 -$1000 for surgery & she will wonder why I am being so mean. You may not have flat out lied but you were not honest about lolas health. I dont believe I ever mentioned your name on here, I did not want to ruin your rep, I just wanted a few opinions. I feel if I give you the other $500 you will be the one worrying about karma because you know how I feel about lola, I think you knew about her health issues, as soon as I mentioned them you said you wanted her back, I had called you to try to negotiate the price, bottom line is your email stating you want her back as of 11.6.07 broke our contract & you do not have the deposit, the contract reads due upon termination which you did 11.6.07. I want whats best for lola & if you think taking me to court instead of doing the right thing will help anyone in anyway then go ahead.