Chocolate Show Dog!!!!!!

[feminvstr]

I find it interesting the judge allowed her to compete

this is off the UKC site
http://mail.ukcdogs.com/ukcweb.nsf/8...A?OpenDocument

COLOR

Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are mature. The mature coat color occurs gradually; therefore, puppies should not be faulted for lack of color change until they are two years old. The colors in adult dogs are:

BLUE - a dark steel blue.

TAN - All tan hairs are darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to a still lighter tan at the tips.

On the body, the dark steel blue extends over the body, from the back of the head to the root of the tail. The headfall is a rich golden tan, deeper in color at the sides of the head, at the ear roots and on the muzzle, with the ears being a deep rich tan. The tan color should not extend down the back of the neck.

The hair on the chest and legs is, a bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs or above the stifle on the hind legs.

Faults: In adult dogs, fawn or bronze hairs mingling with silver-blue color. Sooty or black hair intermingled with the tan.

Disqualifications: Any change in coat color by artificial means. Albinism.

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by kelleykrack

Ill get back with yall on the name. Im glad most everyone is being very nice about this. I know chocolates are a sore subject for most people on here. Chocolates are not a mutation nor are they sickly. There is a red color gene in the yorkies that comes out. Shannette is working on getting pure chocolate litters. Anyone who would take the time to see one face to face and see the personality these little guys have would be hooked!!

Only sore spot for me is that I don't have one How Great that she got second that is wonderful..... She is Beautiful

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

Wow thats a little harsh, If you dont have nothing nice to say on her thread then why post at all? why does all these threads have to turn out like this..

Very well said I agree

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I'm sorry if some of the posts sound like trashing or a little harsh but those of us that stay true to the standard it gets a little frustrating to see what's happening to our breed. The standard does "NOT" recognize any other color but what's stated in the standard and when someone tries to bring out another color deviates from what the true standard is and the betterment of the breed is not happening. Please do not take this post as hateful, trashing or harsh but facts are facts and when you strive for another color that's not in the standard you are not doing the breed justice and not bettering the breed! JHMO
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Donna, I do not mean you at all...you are always very kind, educational, and lets say "tactful" of how you post your opinion and I for one respect it to the fullest....I COMPLETELY understand the Standard Colored Yorkie Breeders passion and love of the breed. I could 100% agree with you or 100% disagree with you and thats okay your still a nice person that I feel would answer my questions in a kind manner. I can respect others opinions, thoughts, views I find it VERY eductional. When I said thrashing i mean come in say rude things in a not tactful way and leave. I have NEVER seen you do that, nor do I look at you as anything but nice and educational. Thanks for addressing me...again shows your true colors...you care and I appreciate that

[daisy mae06]

Someone needs to read" who moved my cheese"

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by daisy mae06

Someone needs to read" who moved my cheese"

Okay fill me in...what is it?? lol

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I'm sorry if some of the posts sound like trashing or a little harsh but those of us that stay true to the standard it gets a little frustrating to see what's happening to our breed. The standard does "NOT" recognize any other color but what's stated in the standard and when someone tries to bring out another color deviates from what the true standard is and the betterment of the breed is not happening. Please do not take this post as hateful, trashing or harsh but facts are facts and when you strive for another color that's not in the standard you are not doing the breed justice and not bettering the breed! JHMO
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Oh I agree with the most of it, Breeders have put most of their life of hard work into keeping the standard. and thats great. and some of the breeders have done a great job. and I can understand them wanted to better the breed and staying with the standard.
But If someone wants to share their joy of their baby even thou it dont meet the AKC standards then why does that hurt. I dont see no difference in choclates then I do Briewers, parti's these people that own these babys are just as proud of them as we are of ours, so why put them down for that. They have a right to post a thread on their babys as much as we do. and by posting that they dont agree with them what does that do? its not going to change their minds how they feel. so why post on their thread if its not to say something nice.why ruin their thread with saying I dont agree. it just makes the thread turn ugly.

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Okay fill me in...what is it?? lol

lol a book on change

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by daisy mae06

lol a book on change

SWEET! I would love to read it !!

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Donna, I do not mean you at all...you are always very kind, educational, and lets say "tactful" of how you post your opinion and I for one respect it to the fullest....I COMPLETELY understand the Standard Colored Yorkie Breeders passion and love of the breed. I could 100% agree with you or 100% disagree with you and thats okay your still a nice person that I feel would answer my questions in a kind manner. I can respect others opinions, thoughts, views I find it VERY eductional. When I said thrashing i mean come in say rude things in a not tactful way and leave. I have NEVER seen you do that, nor do I look at you as anything but nice and educational. Thanks for addressing me...again shows your true colors...you care and I appreciate that

I'm sorry I didn't mean to pick your post out individually. I meant to hit reply but not to a specific post LOL. Thank you for your kind words but in all honesty here my first reaction was to be rude but changed my mind. I can't see how anyone can be ethical when knowing that producing those colors are on purpose. I"m sorry but that's my opinion and it's really not meant to be rude but fact is fact They aren't bettering the breed when breeding those colors on purpose.
Diggy you've always been kind and complimentary to me and I appreciate it very much! You do learn and that is a positive. That is why we educate and try to put out as much corrrect information out as we can.
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

I find it interesting the judge allowed her to compete

this is off the UKC site
http://mail.ukcdogs.com/ukcweb.nsf/8...A?OpenDocument

COLOR

Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are mature. The mature coat color occurs gradually; therefore, puppies should not be faulted for lack of color change until they are two years old. The colors in adult dogs are:

BLUE - a dark steel blue.

TAN - All tan hairs are darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to a still lighter tan at the tips.

On the body, the dark steel blue extends over the body, from the back of the head to the root of the tail. The headfall is a rich golden tan, deeper in color at the sides of the head, at the ear roots and on the muzzle, with the ears being a deep rich tan. The tan color should not extend down the back of the neck.

The hair on the chest and legs is, a bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs or above the stifle on the hind legs.

Faults: In adult dogs, fawn or bronze hairs mingling with silver-blue color. Sooty or black hair intermingled with the tan.

Disqualifications: Any change in coat color by artificial means. Albinism.

Thank you for posting this, But we know what the standard is, but thats not what this thread is about.
It's about someone being proud that her Choc baby made it to show and won.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

Oh I agree with the most of it, Breeders have put most of their life of hard work into keeping the standard. and thats great. and some of the breeders have done a great job. and I can understand them wanted to better the breed and staying with the standard.
But If someone wants to share their joy of their baby even thou it dont meet the AKC standards then why does that hurt. I dont see no difference in choclates then I do Briewers, parti's these people that own these babys are just as proud of them as we are of ours, so why put them down for that. They have a right to post a thread on their babys as much as we do. and by posting that they dont agree with them what does that do? its not going to change their minds how they feel. so why post on their thread if its not to say something nice.why ruin their thread with saying I dont agree. it just makes the thread turn ugly.

By all means brag about your babies it's always nice to see a brag if the brag is being of a pet doing something great as obedience or agility but in the conformation ring when you know it's not an accepted color? You put yourself in that position when you post it. Really I'm not trying to argue but again, fact is fact
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[buddybramble]

ANOTHER beautiful choc baby!!
Come on 'standard' breeders don't be afraid of the competition you may one day have to compete against.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

By all means brag about your babies it's always nice to see a brag if the brag is being of a pet doing something great as obedience or agility but in the conformation ring when you know it's not an accepted color? You put yourself in that position when you post it. Really I'm not trying to argue but again, fact is fact
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

I love reading your post and get a lot out of them.
I didn't think you was trying to argue, but some members do come on and do just that. I understand you wanted to keep the standard.and I'm not trying to argue either. I too love the standard.

But if they let the choc show and the judge didn't have a problem with it then why is everyone questioning her about it? Theres other threads that are about other colors those are the threads to post your opinions on, Let her have her brag thread and let it be clear of others opinions on the colors thats all im trying to say. I just hate seeing every time a differentv color is brought up that the threads turn bad. cant we just say congrats.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by buddybramble

ANOTHER beautiful choc baby!!
Come on 'standard' breeders don't be afraid of the competition you may one day have to compete against.

Not saying the chocolate yorkie in the picture isn't pretty as a picture but again follow the rules it's not that hard. You expect your child to play by the rules why can't fellow yorkie breeders/exhibitors follow the rules/standard? It's not about competition it's about following the rules to being able to compete and that color in the conformation ring is "not" following the rules.
JMHO
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers