Chocolate Show Dog!!!!!!

[kelleykrack]

Originally Posted by dakotama95

Does the breeder breed for the improvement of the breed?

By breeding for the improvement of the breed the yorkie breeders become more knowledgeable about health issues and evaluating the quality of the Yorkshire terrier. With this knowledge and if they are ethical they can better advise their customer on the quality of the puppy they are considering to purchase.

If one studies the history of the Yorkshire terrier you can see that their look has changed over the course of their history. And it makes sense that most people are going to want the most current yorkie. This is somewhat of an exaggeration, but you should get the idea, but if you were buying a computer would you buy a computer from a company that never made improvements on their original computer or would you buy a computer from company that is constantly striving to improve their original computer?

In breeding for the improvement of the breed we’re not basing improvement solely on AKC standards. Following AKC standards is a good starting point but AKC standards are primarily for having a standard to show against and if your raising show dogs you have no choice but to breed for improvement based upon AKC standards. What the public wants may be slightly different from the AKC standard. One example is many people prefer Black/Gold coloring vs. AKC standard Blue/Gold. The AKC standard has changed over the course of its history. It was last revised April 12, 1966 and we feel that it’s the breeders that Breed for improvement based upon the AKC standard and public preference will continue to put pressure on AKC to periodically revise the AKC standard.

For instance in the late 50's a "parti" Pomeranian -Madame Butterfly won world recognition in the American Kennel Club Association as the first ever "parti" Pomeranian to win. Hence the American Kennel Club now recognizes a Parti Pomeranian. If it wasn't for this breeder breeding for public preference the parti Pomeranian would have never been recognized by AKC.

Many show breeders rely on the income they receive on the sale of puppies to support the expense of showing their dogs. When show breeders can’t support the cost of showing thru the sale of their puppies you will see the AKC standard revised. Without this balance between qualified show breeders and qualified yorkie breeders you would never see changes in the AKC standard. You would still see 15- 20 lbs. Yorkshire terriers.

shannette barbe- I found this on another website. I wish you all the luck in getting the Chocolate yorkie recognized as a breed. This is what Mr and Mrs Beiwer did and their breed is slowly getting there. The yorkshire terrier wasn't even recognized for several years after the mixing of several different features found in several different breeds of terriers and maltese.

Nicely said...thank you

[shannette barbe]

Originally Posted by dakotama95

Does the breeder breed for the improvement of the breed?

By breeding for the improvement of the breed the yorkie breeders become more knowledgeable about health issues and evaluating the quality of the Yorkshire terrier. With this knowledge and if they are ethical they can better advise their customer on the quality of the puppy they are considering to purchase.

If one studies the history of the Yorkshire terrier you can see that their look has changed over the course of their history. And it makes sense that most people are going to want the most current yorkie. This is somewhat of an exaggeration, but you should get the idea, but if you were buying a computer would you buy a computer from a company that never made improvements on their original computer or would you buy a computer from company that is constantly striving to improve their original computer?

In breeding for the improvement of the breed we’re not basing improvement solely on AKC standards. Following AKC standards is a good starting point but AKC standards are primarily for having a standard to show against and if your raising show dogs you have no choice but to breed for improvement based upon AKC standards. What the public wants may be slightly different from the AKC standard. One example is many people prefer Black/Gold coloring vs. AKC standard Blue/Gold. The AKC standard has changed over the course of its history. It was last revised April 12, 1966 and we feel that it’s the breeders that Breed for improvement based upon the AKC standard and public preference will continue to put pressure on AKC to periodically revise the AKC standard.

For instance in the late 50's a "parti" Pomeranian -Madame Butterfly won world recognition in the American Kennel Club Association as the first ever "parti" Pomeranian to win. Hence the American Kennel Club now recognizes a Parti Pomeranian. If it wasn't for this breeder breeding for public preference the parti Pomeranian would have never been recognized by AKC.

Many show breeders rely on the income they receive on the sale of puppies to support the expense of showing their dogs. When show breeders can’t support the cost of showing thru the sale of their puppies you will see the AKC standard revised. Without this balance between qualified show breeders and qualified yorkie breeders you would never see changes in the AKC standard. You would still see 15- 20 lbs. Yorkshire terriers.

shannette barbe- I found this on another website. I wish you all the luck in getting the Chocolate yorkie recognized as a breed. This is what Mr and Mrs Beiwer did and their breed is slowly getting there. The yorkshire terrier wasn't even recognized for several years after the mixing of several different features found in several different breeds of terriers and maltese.

finally something i agree with standards need to be set for forth coming dogs of the people not just dogs from 200 years ago. and if they dont set them the lines get messed up not better. im striving to get standard to be judged to get the best quality dogs why can anyone but you tonight understand that. you are a godsent thank you

[yorkiekist]

Its not the AKC that approves the standard, its the YTCA.

[shannette barbe]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Its not the AKC that approves the standard, its the YTCA.

that would only be if its classified as a yorkie

[yorkiekist]

Just like the Pom, the Pom parent club writes the standard for the breed and AKC accepts it.

[kelleykrack]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Its not the AKC that approves the standard, its the YTCA.

shes not trying to get the akc to create a standard shes working with the UKC..akc is pointless right now...

[shannette barbe]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Just like the Pom, the Pom parent club writes the standard for the breed and AKC accepts it.

well if the yorkie club turns us down there is always other terrier clubs that have simaler descendents that would probably love this beutiful addition to there terriers

[yorkiekist]

Good luck in your agenda. Maybe in another 30 years, your dream may come true.

[yorkiekist]

If you think the Yorkshire Terrier breeders are "snobbish" then I cant wait to see how you fair with the Terrier breedes!!!LOL

[shannette barbe]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Good luck in your agenda. Maybe in another 30 years, your dream may come true.

thats ok if its 30 years im not that old and i have children and co -owners who are working with me to follow this through there is no logical explanation why this dog cannot have a standard none what so ever it doesnt have to compete as a yorki just a terrierr

[yorkiekist]

I think you should contact the Skye Terrier Club!! That breed is a living. showing decendant of the Yorkie.

[shannette barbe]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

I think you should contact the Skye Terrier Club!! That breed is a living. showing decendant of the Yorkie.

thank you for that brilliant idea thats the kinda support im looking for that was very helpfull i figure any decsendants left i can apply to some are extinct now wonder why probably no dang standard lol i like the way you think

[yorkiekist]

"mom" I am going to bed now!!!LOL

Good luck with the Skye Terrier Club!!!!

[shannette barbe]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

"mom" I am going to bed now!!!LOL

Good luck with the Skye Terrier Club!!!!

nite hun hehe sweet dreams of terriers lol

[kelleykrack]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

"mom" I am going to bed now!!!LOL

Good luck with the Skye Terrier Club!!!!

hahaha...even though you are probably trying to set her up, thanks for giving her that info...every little bit helps