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i_love_my_yorki · 06-17-2005, 09:55 AM

I know its very annoying,you trust what the Breeder says to you..

But most people know there is simply no such thing as a Teacup

Breeders use that term because they know most people are looking for a teeny tiny,& thats how they get more $$$$$$$$$ out of the buyer...

We live in a money hungry society.....

I have Scamp who is 3 mths old & weighs 4lb,hes big boned & solid...

I was told he wouldnt be any bigger than 4lb full growen

We love him him to pieces & wouldnt trade him for all the teeny tinys...

ReconsMomma · 06-17-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AntilopaUCF

I completely agree. If I knew that Lana was going to be bigger than 3 pounds I would have approached the situation differently. This just created a lot of problems in my family. My parents were against getting a second puppy in the first place but htey were convinced to accept her because of her size. They are very peculiar. I got a maltese/schih tzu puppy mix once and they forced me to return her becuse she was shedding. My brother, sister and I cried for hours but we had to do it. Especially because of this I wanted to make sure that I could find an "acceptable" dog and I thought that Lana was it. I don't know what to do now. I am really concerned about how my parents are going to react. I am also very dissapointed myself because I truly wanted a tiny little thing that could go with me everywhere.

I dont understand why you think that a 6 pounder or whatever cant go with you everywhere. I just dont get why they are so particular about the size. Why not love the dog for who she is not how big she is?? I mean to me, its like saying to your child, "you got fat so I dont love you anymore, or you got too tall so I dont love you". Does this make sense??
If you are that broken up about the size of this pup, give her to some one that is going to love her for her instead of subjecting her to lack of attention or love because they dont like the size that she is or whatever.

AntilopaUCF · 06-17-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ReconsMomma

I dont understand why you think that a 6 pounder or whatever cant go with you everywhere. I just dont get why they are so particular about the size. Why not love the dog for who she is not how big she is?? I mean to me, its like saying to your child, "you got fat so I dont love you anymore, or you got too tall so I dont love you". Does this make sense??
If you are that broken up about the size of this pup, give her to some one that is going to love her for her instead of subjecting her to lack of attention or love because they dont like the size that she is or whatever.

I am not like that at all

I love her with all my heart. I will love her even if she gets to be 20 lb. The problem is that my parents are not going to be as accepting, that's all. I can't really control how they feel. They have never been dog people and I don't think that will change. They fell in love with Lili because she is such a cuddle bear. They didn't want any new puppies around the house for numerous reasons that are very silly to me, but that's the way they are. I got them to accept Lana only because we all believed that she would be tiny and wouldn't be able to much damage to the house. I know that even tiny doggies can make big messes but they seem to think that it is related to size. I am dissapointed that I didn't get what I bargained for, but there is nothing I can do now - I already love her. I play with her all the time and I try to hold her as much as she would let me (she doesn't like to be cuddled). I divide my attention between her and Lili equally, and maybe I give her a few "extra ounces" of attention because she is new and I want her to feel comfortable with her new family.

fasteddie · 06-17-2005, 10:33 AM

Sorry to hear about your situation, AntilopaUCF, but all you can do now is love and cherish her as much as you can. You can try to get a partial refund from the breeder, but it sounds like you're probably not going to get anything back from her.

But don't give up hope in regards to your Yorkie's love and affection. They can be nurtured and loved and their personalities can change, especially since she is so young. We've heard many wonderful stories of rescued Yorkies (5 to 7 YEARS old) becoming more lovable and affectionate. It does take time, if you can try to convey that to your parents, that may help. Also, your Yorkies diet may play a part in her final weight. I'm NOT SAYING to starve her at all, but if she is on a fatter diet, she may gain more weight. Try to avoid feeding her human food (with seasoning/salt/pepper) as well if you can, that's really not good for them in most cases. We look forward to seeing pictures of your new baby soon.

chachi · 06-17-2005, 10:42 AM

Your family will learn to love lana. Believe me I have one yorkie that is 6lbs and one that is less than 3lbs. The 6lb yorkie Chachi is much more sturdier. And yorkies are sucha a small dog anyway. I put Chachi in a caririer and carry him around.

leximax · 06-17-2005, 11:04 AM

Who was the breeder? You may save someone else the same problem. I too was told that my Max who was only 1.2lbs at 4 MONTHS would never be bigger than 2-3lbs well WRONG he's 6.3lbs now and 11 months old! I sent a letter to the BBB in LA and to the State Attorney General in LA. You should do the same. My breeder was Lerays Specilaty Pets in Baton Rouge, LA - Ed & Dora LeRay.

AntilopaUCF · 06-17-2005, 11:16 AM

It wasn't a business - I bought it from a lady who was doing it from her house. I will never make this mistake again.
I bought my maltese from a puppy store, and I was lucky enough to get a healthy and awesome puppy. After I bought her I heard about the puppy mill situation and I decided never to buy a puppy from a puppy store again. It looks like I will have to find a third alternative.

chachi · 06-17-2005, 11:17 AM

Leximax yours definitely sounds like an unusual one of those you never know. My female weighed more than yours at 4 mos and she is now a little less than 3 pds.

leximax · 06-17-2005, 11:23 AM

Max did not come from a business or store. Ed & Dora LeRay are the private breeders but they have a website as LeRays Specialty Pets and you can definately report any person who sells you something to the BBB and the State Atty General!

blykmyk44 · 06-17-2005, 11:24 AM

not to sound rude but be happy that he is alive and doing well. we may lose our dog in the next day or two so be happy with what you have.

typerk · 06-17-2005, 11:36 AM

I'm no breeder either but from what I understand you should be happy she is not a "teacup" yorkie. I think too many people want these dogs to be cartoonishly small for some type of fashion accessory. The biggest yorkies are still very small dogs in comparison. Relax.

Diego · 06-17-2005, 12:18 PM

I may sound rude but for the betterment of this puppy , why don't you find her another home ?

Olivier · 06-17-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by typerk

I'm no breeder either but from what I understand you should be happy she is not a "teacup" yorkie. I think too many people want these dogs to be cartoonishly small for some type of fashion accessory. The biggest yorkies are still very small dogs in comparison. Relax.

You are very right for this one . Agree with you . Sooner , the so-called Tea Cup will be too big too , peoples will be searching one that fit in the pocket of a shirt.

brosie1823 · 06-17-2005, 12:58 PM

When I got Linus, I was told he would only be between 3-4 lbs because he was the runt of the litter (but a very healthy runt) and his parents were a 4 lb. daddy and 5 lb. mommy. I thought that really was what I wanted. But now he's 2.5 lbs at 4 months and I keep hoping he'll grow to be 5-6 lbs. The health risks to small dogs are too great. And that's something that I would tell your parents..if my baby was as small as you thought he would be, the potential for paying large amounts of money on vet bills increases exponentially. Tell them you are just saving them money in the long run!

Lady of Yorkies · 06-17-2005, 01:05 PM

AntilopaUCF, First of all I agree that there’s something wrong if you can’t see the parents. It is possible that the owners took the puppy as a stud fee and therefore the mother wouldn’t be there, but you should have been allowed to see the father. Yorkies have a standard size when you are reading the YTCA rules and the AKC show standards. But Yorkie ancestry is from a lot of different sized and colored dogs. If I remember correctly, and there’s no guarantee that I do, people have only been trying to get a standard size (by weight) for about 50 years. If you see the parents it’s no guarantee that your puppy will be their size or smaller. I have 2 pups who should be no more than 3# if you look at the parents. The parents are 4th generation smalls, my babies are 5th generation smalls and it looks like they are going up to 4#. I do know that because of “throwbacks” I could still end up with a much larger dog. Your breeder should never have promised that Lana would stay so small. Her best guess should have been a guesstimate. If you contact your breeder to see what she will do, and she won’t do anything about the size, and you are really upset to the point that you don’t want Lana, see if your breeder would trade her for another puppy. Most good breeders want you to be happy, word of mouth is a very powerful tool. Another thing to keep in mind is the temperament of the parents. That could tell you a lot about the puppy’s temperament. Next time you are looking for a puppy schedule it when you can spend a LOT of time with the breeders, parents and puppies. If your puppy is acting this way now the chances are that if you had spent time with several puppies you wouldn’t have chosen this particular one. According to the chart I have it doesn’t go over 6# so at 50 ozs she reach over 6 ½ #.

Jessica, I don’t have a lot of experience with Yorkies, I’ve only had my first a year. But I have bought 2 females at 5 ½ months. I have noticed they don’t get much bigger after hitting that 6mo mark. The first one weighed 5# and now weighs 7.2# at 17mos. The other is 8 mos and she weighed 2.15# when I got her now she weighs 3.8#. I don’t know what the sizes of Lady were (older female), but Lacijo’s parents were 2.12# for her father and 3# for her mother. They are 4th generation smalls. I have the half brother of Lacijo and he was less than 2# when we got him now he weighs 3.3. He was 12 weeks when we got him and now he’s 5 ½ mos.

06-17-2005, 09:55 AM	#61
i_love_my_yorki YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 705	Teacup Yorkie?? I know its very annoying,you trust what the Breeder says to you.. But most people know there is simply no such thing as a Teacup Breeders use that term because they know most people are looking for a teeny tiny,& thats how they get more $$$$$$$$$ out of the buyer... We live in a money hungry society..... I have Scamp who is 3 mths old & weighs 4lb,hes big boned & solid... I was told he wouldnt be any bigger than 4lb full growen We love him him to pieces & wouldnt trade him for all the teeny tinys...

06-17-2005, 10:33 AM	#64
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Sorry to hear about your situation, AntilopaUCF, but all you can do now is love and cherish her as much as you can. You can try to get a partial refund from the breeder, but it sounds like you're probably not going to get anything back from her. But don't give up hope in regards to your Yorkie's love and affection. They can be nurtured and loved and their personalities can change, especially since she is so young. We've heard many wonderful stories of rescued Yorkies (5 to 7 YEARS old) becoming more lovable and affectionate. It does take time, if you can try to convey that to your parents, that may help. Also, your Yorkies diet may play a part in her final weight. I'm NOT SAYING to starve her at all, but if she is on a fatter diet, she may gain more weight. Try to avoid feeding her human food (with seasoning/salt/pepper) as well if you can, that's really not good for them in most cases. We look forward to seeing pictures of your new baby soon. __________________ YODA & WINKY R ::: RIP Winky ::: RIP Yoda! Last edited by fasteddie; 06-17-2005 at 11:01 AM.

06-17-2005, 10:42 AM	#65
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Your family will learn to love lana. Believe me I have one yorkie that is 6lbs and one that is less than 3lbs. The 6lb yorkie Chachi is much more sturdier. And yorkies are sucha a small dog anyway. I put Chachi in a caririer and carry him around. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

06-17-2005, 11:17 AM	#68
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Leximax yours definitely sounds like an unusual one of those you never know. My female weighed more than yours at 4 mos and she is now a little less than 3 pds. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

06-17-2005, 11:36 AM	#71
typerk YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 252	I'm no breeder either but from what I understand you should be happy she is not a "teacup" yorkie. I think too many people want these dogs to be cartoonishly small for some type of fashion accessory. The biggest yorkies are still very small dogs in comparison. Relax. __________________ http://www.dogster.com/?156534.

06-17-2005, 11:04 AM	#66
leximax Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hazleton, PA Posts: 186	Who was the breeder? You may save someone else the same problem. I too was told that my Max who was only 1.2lbs at 4 MONTHS would never be bigger than 2-3lbs well WRONG he's 6.3lbs now and 11 months old! I sent a letter to the BBB in LA and to the State Attorney General in LA. You should do the same. My breeder was Lerays Specilaty Pets in Baton Rouge, LA - Ed & Dora LeRay.

06-17-2005, 11:16 AM	#67
AntilopaUCF Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 30	It wasn't a business - I bought it from a lady who was doing it from her house. I will never make this mistake again. I bought my maltese from a puppy store, and I was lucky enough to get a healthy and awesome puppy. After I bought her I heard about the puppy mill situation and I decided never to buy a puppy from a puppy store again. It looks like I will have to find a third alternative.

06-17-2005, 11:23 AM	#69
leximax Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hazleton, PA Posts: 186	Max did not come from a business or store. Ed & Dora LeRay are the private breeders but they have a website as LeRays Specialty Pets and you can definately report any person who sells you something to the BBB and the State Atty General!

06-17-2005, 11:24 AM	#70
blykmyk44 YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 388	not to sound rude but be happy that he is alive and doing well. we may lose our dog in the next day or two so be happy with what you have.

06-17-2005, 12:18 PM	#72
Diego Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3,617	I may sound rude but for the betterment of this puppy , why don't you find her another home ?

06-17-2005, 12:58 PM	#74
brosie1823 Linus - Master & Commander Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 917	When I got Linus, I was told he would only be between 3-4 lbs because he was the runt of the litter (but a very healthy runt) and his parents were a 4 lb. daddy and 5 lb. mommy. I thought that really was what I wanted. But now he's 2.5 lbs at 4 months and I keep hoping he'll grow to be 5-6 lbs. The health risks to small dogs are too great. And that's something that I would tell your parents..if my baby was as small as you thought he would be, the potential for paying large amounts of money on vet bills increases exponentially. Tell them you are just saving them money in the long run! __________________ Linus on Dogsterhttp://www.dogster.com/?150058 Lucy on Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?150061 Check out our bows! www.littledogbows.com

06-17-2005, 01:05 PM	#75
Lady of Yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,562	AntilopaUCF, First of all I agree that there’s something wrong if you can’t see the parents. It is possible that the owners took the puppy as a stud fee and therefore the mother wouldn’t be there, but you should have been allowed to see the father. Yorkies have a standard size when you are reading the YTCA rules and the AKC show standards. But Yorkie ancestry is from a lot of different sized and colored dogs. If I remember correctly, and there’s no guarantee that I do, people have only been trying to get a standard size (by weight) for about 50 years. If you see the parents it’s no guarantee that your puppy will be their size or smaller. I have 2 pups who should be no more than 3# if you look at the parents. The parents are 4th generation smalls, my babies are 5th generation smalls and it looks like they are going up to 4#. I do know that because of “throwbacks” I could still end up with a much larger dog. Your breeder should never have promised that Lana would stay so small. Her best guess should have been a guesstimate. If you contact your breeder to see what she will do, and she won’t do anything about the size, and you are really upset to the point that you don’t want Lana, see if your breeder would trade her for another puppy. Most good breeders want you to be happy, word of mouth is a very powerful tool. Another thing to keep in mind is the temperament of the parents. That could tell you a lot about the puppy’s temperament. Next time you are looking for a puppy schedule it when you can spend a LOT of time with the breeders, parents and puppies. If your puppy is acting this way now the chances are that if you had spent time with several puppies you wouldn’t have chosen this particular one. According to the chart I have it doesn’t go over 6# so at 50 ozs she reach over 6 ½ #. Jessica, I don’t have a lot of experience with Yorkies, I’ve only had my first a year. But I have bought 2 females at 5 ½ months. I have noticed they don’t get much bigger after hitting that 6mo mark. The first one weighed 5# and now weighs 7.2# at 17mos. The other is 8 mos and she weighed 2.15# when I got her now she weighs 3.8#. I don’t know what the sizes of Lady were (older female), but Lacijo’s parents were 2.12# for her father and 3# for her mother. They are 4th generation smalls. I have the half brother of Lacijo and he was less than 2# when we got him now he weighs 3.3. He was 12 weeks when we got him and now he’s 5 ½ mos.