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punkie · 08-03-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spr377

my little boy had that bloody mucas around the stool.....it was only that he was sensitive to the food I was feeding (Royal Canin) That is a great food, however, my boy was just sensitive to it. I now feed Innova.

Do you think it could have been because we just switched his food a few days ago? I think it may have been too sudden for him. We mixed it in with his old food, but he just kept picking out and eating the new stuff and leaving the other one in the dish. He was eating Eukanuba when we got him and now we're giving him Innova as well. He seems to like it a lot. I hope he's not sensitive to it.

punkie · 08-03-2007, 03:55 AM

We have been trying to pee pad train out little guy since we don't take him out that much especially because he doesn't have all of his booster shots yet and we pretty much live in doggy central.

The vet and her technician told us yesterday that we should crate train instead though and that it's easier. Apparently we should leave him in the crate "all the time" except for when he is eating or going to the bathroom or playing with us.

When he is supervised, we just leave the puppy gate open and he goes back and forth between his own "room" and the rest of the apartment. When he isn't supervised, we close the gate and he has everything he need in his area, with lots of room and he does fine. We were told that this is wrong and that he will just start peeing everywhere and not learn anything. We actually thought that he was doing pretty well. He has accidents of course, all the time actually, but he's so young and we thought it was normal.

They told us to take him outside every 3 hours and right after he eats. That doesn't sound easier to me, LOL. Plus how can we take him out when we're sleeping at night or if we're away for more than 3 hours for whatever reason? We don't really feel comfortable leaving a little puppy in the crate for that long, but we really don't know anything about this since we never had a puppy before of our own other than the family dogs that our parents took care of

I also read that toy dogs are hard to potty train and may have accidents throughout their lives.

What does everyone think is a good idea? Crate training or pee pad training?

Ozzie'sperson · 08-03-2007, 04:21 AM

Milo, huh? Sounds like a good name to me.

I didn't crate train, but from a lot of the posts I've seen, crating is primarily for sleeping. Is this right? Someone who's crated, please help here!

I think the arrangement you've made is good. We left Ozzie gated in the kitchen with bed, toys, water, and papers when he couldn't be supervised. (Ozzie was VERY slow to potty train but a lot of it was MY fault because I didn't have a lot of time during his puppydom to make it work.)

Chelle · 08-03-2007, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by punkie

When we weighed him on our kitchen scale, which we thought was pretty accurate, he was 1 pound and 14 ounces. But at the vet yesterday he was 1.9 lbs. The same scale weighed him at 1.8 the week before. So I don't really now which one is more reliable. I guess there's no way to really know how much he will weigh. Although I don't think that 7-10 lbs is huge anymore, LOL. So it doesn't really matter.

The name is looking like Milo. My boyfriend still like Oliver better, but I think the little guy likes Milo

I could be wrong but I think both scales are very accurate (an ouce or two difference can be anything from when he ate to peed to pooped

) Usually when the vet tells me something like 1.5 it's not 1 lb 5 ounces but rather 1.5 is 1 and a 1/2 pounds ie, 1 pound 8 ounces. So basically it sounds like 1 pound 14 ounces is pretty darn close to 1.9 lbs. LOL did I confuse you yet?

Chelle · 08-03-2007, 04:41 AM

We have been pee pad training our Eury because of where we live. Even if we take her outside, there isn't anywhere she can go like a grass plot. We have to walk two blocks for that and that's not very easy to do when she's really gotta go.

Regarding the crate training for at night, we also use a pen for her at night and when we are out. It has her sleeping area (her travelling bag), food, water, toys and her pee pad. And we had no issues... in her pen, she uses her pad every time she has to go potty. As she gets older, she uses it less and less at night cause she can hold it longer and longer. One big plus to this, we can sleep through the night cause she has everything she needs. Being my hubby is military and getting up early is the norm, I can't tell you how wonderful this is!

Now as to accidents, etc. Yeah Eury still has the occasional accident but she's also still a puppy at almost 5 months. Our vet said to expect accidents until she's about a year old and then only once in a while if she gets overly excited, nervous, etc. We hope that our next assignment allows us to have a place with a back yard though so she can enjoy that.

Anyways, I hope all that helps. And I like Milo, it fits is cute face.

Ya know I was reading once that cats and dogs seem to respond better to names that end in vowel sounds. Dunno why. LOL

crystalsmom · 08-03-2007, 04:47 AM

Milo is a wonderful name !!! Love it.

I did the pee pad training and if you are interested you can pm me.

sweetr72 · 08-03-2007, 04:50 AM

I LOVE the name Milo!! Good choice!!

Dawn

Gingergirlsmom · 08-03-2007, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by punkie

Well, there is one in my building named Peanut and he is about 2.5 lbs. At least that's what the owner says. He's the one I see the most. Then there are 2 others owned by another woman and one is 3 lbs and the other is almost 4 (so I've been told). There is also a a girl who owns a Yorkie and a Maltese in my building as well. Her Yorkie, Precious is 3 lbs and her Maltese, Maddy is 3.5 lbs. Then there was a Yorkie I saw at the mall the other day and the owners were really nice and friendly. My boyfriend and I chatted with them for a while and told them we were looking for a Yorkie. They let us play with theirs and hold her for a while. She was almost 4 lbs.

All of these dogs I mentioned are more than 2 years of age. I've also seen them at random outings before and they all looked about the same as the ones I have mentioned previously. So I have never seen a Yorkie 6-7 lbs or more before.

I have had a hard time finding a small one for the same reason you mentioned. Reputable breeders don't seem to have them often and when they do, they want a lot of money for them. Even more if it's a girl. At least that's my experience. Which is exactly why I fell into the trap I did.

I just have to say...I have a little 5 lb rescue here right now and am amazed at what a tiny little thing he is. DH and I are both afraid of crushing him. 3 lbs is incredibly small...that being said, am I reading this right??? Did you decide to keep him???? Good luck whatever you do.

punkie · 08-03-2007, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozzie'sperson

Milo, huh? Sounds like a good name to me.

I didn't crate train, but from a lot of the posts I've seen, crating is primarily for sleeping. Is this right? Someone who's crated, please help here!

I think the arrangement you've made is good. We left Ozzie gated in the kitchen with bed, toys, water, and papers when he couldn't be supervised. (Ozzie was VERY slow to potty train but a lot of it was MY fault because I didn't have a lot of time during his puppydom to make it work.)

Sounds like you did the exact same thing with him that we're doing now. Glad to hear it works. I wasn't too keen on the idea of crating him all day and night. The vet tech said her dog is in the crate all day and all night unless he is eating, playing with his family or going to the bathroom. Seemed kind of excessive to me. But who am I to say? I'm clueless, LOL.

punkie · 08-03-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chelle

I could be wrong but I think both scales are very accurate (an ouce or two difference can be anything from when he ate to peed to pooped

) Usually when the vet tells me something like 1.5 it's not 1 lb 5 ounces but rather 1.5 is 1 and a 1/2 pounds ie, 1 pound 8 ounces. So basically it sounds like 1 pound 14 ounces is pretty darn close to 1.9 lbs. LOL did I confuse you yet?

Oooh, I get it now, LOL. Thanks for clearing it up for me. I was a bit confused

punkie · 08-03-2007, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chelle

Regarding the crate training for at night, we also use a pen for her at night and when we are out. It has her sleeping area (her travelling bag), food, water, toys and her pee pad. And we had no issues... in her pen, she uses her pad every time she has to go potty. As she gets older, she uses it less and less at night cause she can hold it longer and longer. One big plus to this, we can sleep through the night cause she has everything she needs. Being my hubby is military and getting up early is the norm, I can't tell you how wonderful this is!

Now as to accidents, etc. Yeah Eury still has the occasional accident but she's also still a puppy at almost 5 months. Our vet said to expect accidents until she's about a year old and then only once in a while if she gets overly excited, nervous, etc. We hope that our next assignment allows us to have a place with a back yard though so she can enjoy that.

Anyways, I hope all that helps. And I like Milo, it fits is cute face.

Ya know I was reading once that cats and dogs seem to respond better to names that end in vowel sounds. Dunno why. LOL

Good to hear it's working for you as well. He's still having accidents in his play area too

He doesn't always make it to the pee pad. But it's not so bad since we covered the floor in his play area with these rubber mats that interlock like leggo pieces, so we can just take them apart and wash them when they get dirty. Plus it gives him a sturdy, no slip surface to run around on.
He's starting to go into his carrier on his own lately to sleep, so that's a good thing. He hardly uses his actual bed anymore.
I'm glad people seem to like the name Milo. I think it's really cute. Reminds me of that spunky Jack Russell from the movie The Mask

punkie · 08-03-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Milo is a wonderful name !!! Love it.

I did the pee pad training and if you are interested you can pm me.

I will do that. Thank you so much.

punkie · 08-03-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetr72

I LOVE the name Milo!! Good choice!!

Dawn

Thank you Dawn

punkie · 08-03-2007, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

I just have to say...I have a little 5 lb rescue here right now and am amazed at what a tiny little thing he is. DH and I are both afraid of crushing him. 3 lbs is incredibly small...that being said, am I reading this right??? Did you decide to keep him???? Good luck whatever you do.

Yes, I am keeping him. I'm letting the weight thing go. Thank you

DoubleYorkie · 08-03-2007, 05:41 AM

Regarding blood/muscus in stool. I have tried to switch my baby to Innova but it did not work no matter how slow I've tried to do it. He was on rice/chicken diet and got better but the minute he eats Innova even a bit he starts to get loose stool with bloody muscus in it. I thought it's an allergy to chicken but it's not. He eats other foods with chicken fine. Then I thought it's barley, eggs etc. I still cannot pinpoint it. I tried all of them separately and he was fine. I got lost in exclusion process

I just don't feed him Innova anymore. If switching slowly (let say in about 7-8 days) does not work then don't keep him on Innova. My baby had pretty bad problem with it and was not feeling good at all. I did not suspect food in the beginning because it is a very premium food.

08-03-2007, 03:55 AM	#317
punkie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 228	Oh important question We have been trying to pee pad train out little guy since we don't take him out that much especially because he doesn't have all of his booster shots yet and we pretty much live in doggy central. The vet and her technician told us yesterday that we should crate train instead though and that it's easier. Apparently we should leave him in the crate "all the time" except for when he is eating or going to the bathroom or playing with us. When he is supervised, we just leave the puppy gate open and he goes back and forth between his own "room" and the rest of the apartment. When he isn't supervised, we close the gate and he has everything he need in his area, with lots of room and he does fine. We were told that this is wrong and that he will just start peeing everywhere and not learn anything. We actually thought that he was doing pretty well. He has accidents of course, all the time actually, but he's so young and we thought it was normal. They told us to take him outside every 3 hours and right after he eats. That doesn't sound easier to me, LOL. Plus how can we take him out when we're sleeping at night or if we're away for more than 3 hours for whatever reason? We don't really feel comfortable leaving a little puppy in the crate for that long, but we really don't know anything about this since we never had a puppy before of our own other than the family dogs that our parents took care of I also read that toy dogs are hard to potty train and may have accidents throughout their lives. What does everyone think is a good idea? Crate training or pee pad training? Last edited by punkie; 08-03-2007 at 03:57 AM. Reason: double sentence

08-03-2007, 04:21 AM	#318
Ozzie'sperson Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Metro St. Louis Posts: 2,809 Blog Entries: 1	Milo, huh? Sounds like a good name to me. I didn't crate train, but from a lot of the posts I've seen, crating is primarily for sleeping. Is this right? Someone who's crated, please help here! I think the arrangement you've made is good. We left Ozzie gated in the kitchen with bed, toys, water, and papers when he couldn't be supervised. (Ozzie was VERY slow to potty train but a lot of it was MY fault because I didn't have a lot of time during his puppydom to make it work.) __________________ Nicole RIP my sweet boy, Ozzie 1997-2011 http://thisdmnhouse.blogspot.com/

08-03-2007, 04:41 AM	#320
Chelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Daegu, S. Korea Posts: 138	We have been pee pad training our Eury because of where we live. Even if we take her outside, there isn't anywhere she can go like a grass plot. We have to walk two blocks for that and that's not very easy to do when she's really gotta go. Regarding the crate training for at night, we also use a pen for her at night and when we are out. It has her sleeping area (her travelling bag), food, water, toys and her pee pad. And we had no issues... in her pen, she uses her pad every time she has to go potty. As she gets older, she uses it less and less at night cause she can hold it longer and longer. One big plus to this, we can sleep through the night cause she has everything she needs. Being my hubby is military and getting up early is the norm, I can't tell you how wonderful this is! Now as to accidents, etc. Yeah Eury still has the occasional accident but she's also still a puppy at almost 5 months. Our vet said to expect accidents until she's about a year old and then only once in a while if she gets overly excited, nervous, etc. We hope that our next assignment allows us to have a place with a back yard though so she can enjoy that. Anyways, I hope all that helps. And I like Milo, it fits is cute face. Ya know I was reading once that cats and dogs seem to respond better to names that end in vowel sounds. Dunno why. LOL __________________ Chelle - Momma to Eury , Sweets , Baby , and Tuffy http://www.dogster.com/dogs/590116

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crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Milo is a wonderful name !!! Love it. I did the pee pad training and if you are interested you can pm me. __________________

08-03-2007, 04:50 AM	#322
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	I LOVE the name Milo!! Good choice!! Dawn

08-03-2007, 05:41 AM	#330
DoubleYorkie Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 50	Regarding blood/muscus in stool. I have tried to switch my baby to Innova but it did not work no matter how slow I've tried to do it. He was on rice/chicken diet and got better but the minute he eats Innova even a bit he starts to get loose stool with bloody muscus in it. I thought it's an allergy to chicken but it's not. He eats other foods with chicken fine. Then I thought it's barley, eggs etc. I still cannot pinpoint it. I tried all of them separately and he was fine. I got lost in exclusion process I just don't feed him Innova anymore. If switching slowly (let say in about 7-8 days) does not work then don't keep him on Innova. My baby had pretty bad problem with it and was not feeling good at all. I did not suspect food in the beginning because it is a very premium food.