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punkie · 09-15-2007, 09:51 AM

Sorry to hear about Tucker.

Milo is almost 4 months old now. He weighs close to 2.5 lbs I think. I'm not really sure though. The last time I weighed him was almost a month ago and he weighed 2.2 lbs then and hasn't grown much since.

When he weighed 1.8 lbs, he was 1 pound and 13 ounces. So it was pretty close to 2 lbs. Which was still pretty tiny. I think that most vets don't know what they're talking about when it comes to toy breeds. I think they calculate weight based on their experience with bigger dogs, because according to my vet, Milo should be much bigger now. I'm estimating him to be around 4.5 - 5 lbs at most when he is fully grown. Even that is still pretty small.

When I look at him now, I don't know what I would do if he always stayed this small, LOL. I used to want a tiny dog, but now I think I would prefer him to be around 5 to 6 lbs. I'm always so afraid of stepping on him and worried that he might fall off of the couch and hurt himself.

I've attached some older pictures of him. The newer ones are on my boyfriend's computer. Do you have any pictures of your little ones?

punkie · 09-15-2007, 09:52 AM

Oops, the pictures didn't work. Here they are.

pepe mint · 09-15-2007, 09:58 AM

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Oops, the pictures didn't work. Here they are.

he's so stinkin cute

bruisersmommy · 09-15-2007, 05:54 PM

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If I asked him for my money back, he would probably want the dog back and I don't feel comfortable giving him back the puppy because who knows what he will do with it. And I'm not sure I want to keep a puppy that is going to be about 7 or 8 lbs either. I've been trying to find him another home, but no luck so far. I'm not sure what to do.

Can I ask why you wouldnt want him if he is 7 or 8 lbs. My baby is a little over a year and he is already 9lbs, and i love every ounce of him.

punkie · 09-15-2007, 07:12 PM

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Can I ask why you wouldnt want him if he is 7 or 8 lbs. My baby is a little over a year and he is already 9lbs, and i love every ounce of him.

I think you should read the whole thread. I've already decided to keep him months ago.

scrapindee · 09-15-2007, 09:15 PM

Bottom line for me, is if you see all the red flags: house stinks, can't go inside, don't get to see the parents, turn around and walk away. I know many folks have puppy mill bred puppies, and love them--and I have one as well. But every time one of us buys from one of these puppy mills, we keep these mills going.

I'm glad for you that you and the puppy are happy; it has a happy ending.

punkie · 09-16-2007, 06:46 AM

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Bottom line for me, is if you see all the red flags: house stinks, can't go inside, don't get to see the parents, turn around and walk away. I know many folks have puppy mill bred puppies, and love them--and I have one as well. But every time one of us buys from one of these puppy mills, we keep these mills going.

I'm glad for you that you and the puppy are happy; it has a happy ending.

You're right. I should have known better. Especially when I asked to see the parents and he told me they were both off somewhere being bred. I should have asked "this puppy is 10 weeks old and his mother is being bred already?"

Unfortunately I never really thought about it throughly until after the fact. At the very least, my Milo has a good home now.

I just wish there was some way to stop this guy. Like I said a while ago, he breeds about 4-5 different breeds of dogs and his partner breeds about 6-7 different ones. He told me he has 16 litters of Yorkies alone in a year. That is a puppy mill of enormous proportions.

Nikki+2 · 09-16-2007, 09:03 AM

I'm so glad it all worked out for you! I can't get over that little face- so sweet! Don't beat yourself up over using poor judgement- hindsight is 20/20 as we all know. Many of us here have gotten yorkies from breeders that we would never do business with now. My first yorkie came from a terrible BYB and I still wonder what I was thinking. I'm very lucky that she is healthy. We all learn as we go.

punkie · 09-16-2007, 09:23 AM

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I'm so glad it all worked out for you! I can't get over that little face- so sweet! Don't beat yourself up over using poor judgement- hindsight is 20/20 as we all know. Many of us here have gotten yorkies from breeders that we would never do business with now. My first yorkie came from a terrible BYB and I still wonder what I was thinking. I'm very lucky that she is healthy. We all learn as we go.

Thank you Nikki, that's very sweet

I'm glad it worked out for you as well and your little girl is healthy.

amanda350 · 09-16-2007, 10:45 AM

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Sorry to hear about Tucker.

Milo is almost 4 months old now. He weighs close to 2.5 lbs I think. I'm not really sure though. The last time I weighed him was almost a month ago and he weighed 2.2 lbs then and hasn't grown much since.

When he weighed 1.8 lbs, he was 1 pound and 13 ounces. So it was pretty close to 2 lbs. Which was still pretty tiny. I think that most vets don't know what they're talking about when it comes to toy breeds. I think they calculate weight based on their experience with bigger dogs, because according to my vet, Milo should be much bigger now. I'm estimating him to be around 4.5 - 5 lbs at most when he is fully grown. Even that is still pretty small.

When I look at him now, I don't know what I would do if he always stayed this small, LOL. I used to want a tiny dog, but now I think I would prefer him to be around 5 to 6 lbs. I'm always so afraid of stepping on him and worried that he might fall off of the couch and hurt himself.

I've attached some older pictures of him. The newer ones are on my boyfriend's computer. Do you have any pictures of your little ones?

I think he is sooo cute.. He will probably be the perfect size for you.. I will attach pictures of my guys. The first one is Tucker right before he passed away.. The second one is my little girl Kallie, she is 14 wks and weighs 2.8 and the third one is my new little man Stewie and he is 13 wks and weighs 2.5... I love them with all my heart and I can't wait to see them grow up.. I miss my Tucker dearly. I'd give anything to have him back...but that's the way life goes..anyways, enjoy the pics.. oh, and their ears are taped up if your wondering what is on their ears...

ANNEMARIE · 09-17-2007, 05:13 AM

hi my vet that i took the puppy to said that she was a half breed. She said that the puppy would grow to be around 15 pound. The vet thought that it was a cross between a maltese and yorkie. WHen i bought the puppy the breeder told me that it was a pure breed of Yorkshire terrier. he even made the bill of sale YORKSHIRE TERRIOR. But anyways i would of never of returned her back to the breeder if i knew that it was a puppy mill. I had no idea, i thought that the best place for her to go was the breeder, because he said that he had a waiting list for these dogs and she would definitely have a good home in no time. Well now i have to sue this supposed breeder for $1500. He is a liar and a scam artist and im going to try my best to get him completely put out of business. He is operating illegally and im positive now that these poor innocent animals are not in humane living conditions. I have to do everything i can to get these animals safe. My boyfriends Dad is a lawyer so my fees are free but i hope to take this Phil Gaidy down, hopefully his lawyer fees alone will put him under. Well hope that answers your question. Have a nice morning

kim

judyeve · 09-17-2007, 06:56 PM

Punkie,

He's a keeper! What a face! He's just precious!

My Max was supposed to weigh 4lbs (pet shop/puppy mill dog), and he now weighs 9 lbs. I like that he's big. I don't have to worry like I would if he was a tiny. Not that tinies aren't precious, I just don't want to worry. My new baby is about 3 lb. at 14 weeks. Her breeder said to expect no less than 5 lbs and as big as 7, no guarantees of course.

Whatever, as long as they're healthy, right?

Dorianyorkie · 09-17-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ANNEMARIE

hi my vet that i took the puppy to said that she was a half breed. She said that the puppy would grow to be around 15 pound. The vet thought that it was a cross between a maltese and yorkie. WHen i bought the puppy the breeder told me that it was a pure breed of Yorkshire terrier. he even made the bill of sale YORKSHIRE TERRIOR. But anyways i would of never of returned her back to the breeder if i knew that it was a puppy mill. I had no idea, i thought that the best place for her to go was the breeder, because he said that he had a waiting list for these dogs and she would definitely have a good home in no time. Well now i have to sue this supposed breeder for $1500. He is a liar and a scam artist and im going to try my best to get him completely put out of business. He is operating illegally and im positive now that these poor innocent animals are not in humane living conditions. I have to do everything i can to get these animals safe. My boyfriends Dad is a lawyer so my fees are free but i hope to take this Phil Gaidy down, hopefully his lawyer fees alone will put him under. Well hope that answers your question. Have a nice morning

kim

I hope all the best! I hope you are going to get your money back.

chewiesmom · 09-18-2007, 01:43 PM

Wow....just read through this entire thread. It helped me kill the last hour of my work day. Obviously, a slow day at the office so was glad to have YT to help pass the time. I've been too busy for a while to look and post. Any way, I'm glad you kept Milo. Love that name!!

I have a Milo too, but he's a 10 lb Japanese Chin. He and Chewie are two inseparable buddies. Good luck!

granyahm · 09-18-2007, 07:28 PM

I'm disappointed to here that you are considering giving up your puppy because of size. I was like you, I wanted a small puppy too. I looked and looked at so many dogs and none of them were right. Then I came across, JayDee. He was the last of the litter because he was so big, the breeder called him "Big Mac", but I fell in love with him anyways. He weighs a whopping 12 lbs (not overweight at all) at 2 y.o., but he is the most amazing dog I have ever met! I often think that other people may have gotten his 5-7 lb brothers and sisters, but luckily for me, they missed out on the opportunity to have one of the best dogs in the whole world. Something had to draw you to this dog in the first place other then his size? He's probably worth you loving him anyways.

09-15-2007, 09:51 AM	#376
punkie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 228	Sorry to hear about Tucker. Milo is almost 4 months old now. He weighs close to 2.5 lbs I think. I'm not really sure though. The last time I weighed him was almost a month ago and he weighed 2.2 lbs then and hasn't grown much since. When he weighed 1.8 lbs, he was 1 pound and 13 ounces. So it was pretty close to 2 lbs. Which was still pretty tiny. I think that most vets don't know what they're talking about when it comes to toy breeds. I think they calculate weight based on their experience with bigger dogs, because according to my vet, Milo should be much bigger now. I'm estimating him to be around 4.5 - 5 lbs at most when he is fully grown. Even that is still pretty small. When I look at him now, I don't know what I would do if he always stayed this small, LOL. I used to want a tiny dog, but now I think I would prefer him to be around 5 to 6 lbs. I'm always so afraid of stepping on him and worried that he might fall off of the couch and hurt himself. I've attached some older pictures of him. The newer ones are on my boyfriend's computer. Do you have any pictures of your little ones? __________________ loving baby Milo

09-15-2007, 09:52 AM	#377
punkie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 228	Oops, the pictures didn't work. Here they are. Attached Thumbnails __________________ loving baby Milo

09-15-2007, 09:15 PM	#381
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	Bottom line for me, is if you see all the red flags: house stinks, can't go inside, don't get to see the parents, turn around and walk away. I know many folks have puppy mill bred puppies, and love them--and I have one as well. But every time one of us buys from one of these puppy mills, we keep these mills going. I'm glad for you that you and the puppy are happy; it has a happy ending. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com Last edited by scrapindee; 09-15-2007 at 09:16 PM.

09-16-2007, 09:03 AM	#383
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	I'm so glad it all worked out for you! I can't get over that little face- so sweet! Don't beat yourself up over using poor judgement- hindsight is 20/20 as we all know. Many of us here have gotten yorkies from breeders that we would never do business with now. My first yorkie came from a terrible BYB and I still wonder what I was thinking. I'm very lucky that she is healthy. We all learn as we go. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

09-17-2007, 06:56 PM	#387
judyeve Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,729	Punkie, He's a keeper! What a face! He's just precious! My Max was supposed to weigh 4lbs (pet shop/puppy mill dog), and he now weighs 9 lbs. I like that he's big. I don't have to worry like I would if he was a tiny. Not that tinies aren't precious, I just don't want to worry. My new baby is about 3 lb. at 14 weeks. Her breeder said to expect no less than 5 lbs and as big as 7, no guarantees of course. Whatever, as long as they're healthy, right? __________________ *Judy, Max and Annie* *Rest in Peace my Sweet Angel Gracie Leigh:*

09-17-2007, 05:13 AM	#386
ANNEMARIE YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CANADA Posts: 2	hi my vet that i took the puppy to said that she was a half breed. She said that the puppy would grow to be around 15 pound. The vet thought that it was a cross between a maltese and yorkie. WHen i bought the puppy the breeder told me that it was a pure breed of Yorkshire terrier. he even made the bill of sale YORKSHIRE TERRIOR. But anyways i would of never of returned her back to the breeder if i knew that it was a puppy mill. I had no idea, i thought that the best place for her to go was the breeder, because he said that he had a waiting list for these dogs and she would definitely have a good home in no time. Well now i have to sue this supposed breeder for $1500. He is a liar and a scam artist and im going to try my best to get him completely put out of business. He is operating illegally and im positive now that these poor innocent animals are not in humane living conditions. I have to do everything i can to get these animals safe. My boyfriends Dad is a lawyer so my fees are free but i hope to take this Phil Gaidy down, hopefully his lawyer fees alone will put him under. Well hope that answers your question. Have a nice morning kim

09-18-2007, 01:43 PM	#389
chewiesmom Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 267	Wow....just read through this entire thread. It helped me kill the last hour of my work day. Obviously, a slow day at the office so was glad to have YT to help pass the time. I've been too busy for a while to look and post. Any way, I'm glad you kept Milo. Love that name!! I have a Milo too, but he's a 10 lb Japanese Chin. He and Chewie are two inseparable buddies. Good luck!

09-18-2007, 07:28 PM	#390
granyahm YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 3	size doesn't matter I'm disappointed to here that you are considering giving up your puppy because of size. I was like you, I wanted a small puppy too. I looked and looked at so many dogs and none of them were right. Then I came across, JayDee. He was the last of the litter because he was so big, the breeder called him "Big Mac", but I fell in love with him anyways. He weighs a whopping 12 lbs (not overweight at all) at 2 y.o., but he is the most amazing dog I have ever met! I often think that other people may have gotten his 5-7 lb brothers and sisters, but luckily for me, they missed out on the opportunity to have one of the best dogs in the whole world. Something had to draw you to this dog in the first place other then his size? He's probably worth you loving him anyways.