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Old 01-03-2007, 01:21 PM   #61
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One of my sons raised pits for a couple of years. He had a male, very intelligent, who was well trained and behaved. This dog never had a problem until one day my DIL's cat escaped from the house. Samson killed the cat with 2 shakes. I could never imagine Samson killing anything, he was raised as a pet, but I was wrong and I believe it's in the genes of the pb.

My son no longer raises pits. He gave it up when he and my DIL decided to try to have children......Thank God!!
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ok after reading this thread i also would like to add something
i had a chow for a year and he was fine with my family members. but anyone outside my household he would have attacked if he had a chance. and because of this i couldn't keep him. the breed was band from my neighborhood. i couldn't walk him or anything. but he was the sweetest dog... with the family. he was an indoor dog but lived outside during the day. he seemed to prefer it out there. i think he thought he could better protect us there. some teens used to cut through my yard ... lets just say they go around now! but we did not teach him to do that he just was very protective.

my MIL has a poodle/ maltese mix... he is a small dog... he bite my niece once for no apparent reason. just attacked her. so... small dogs attack too.

why do people allow others opinions irritate them so that they retaliate with comments. if you don't agree with something someone says say so... but if you feel they were rude about so what! ya'll get heated on here sometimes. dang! its ok for them to say what they say they way they wanna say it just like its ok for you. just let it go. chill ya'll. woo woo woo
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I think those that are raised right can seem to be fine most of the time. But I also think that there is an innate viciousness that can come out when least expected. These dogs were bred for that viciousness and it is in their makeup. Just today on CNN I saw a 5 year old girl -- beautiful child -- was killed -- mauled by her uncle's pit bull. It may be unpopular to say it but I applaud each country, state, and municipality that has outlawed the pit bulls. They were a horrible human errors in breeding and they all need to be neutered or spayed -- putting an end to the cruelty that was started by man. I know I will hear that the casualties are human fault -- and I agree. But people cannot be trusted to always keep these animals away from children and small animals. If they are to continue, they should have the same restrictions as other wild, dangerous beasts. People are not allowed to keep a lion or a tiger in a residential area, and I think the same would apply. JMO.
I don't know if I all the way agree with them being innately vicious. I know that many Pitbulls are, but I wonder if that is in the breeding and raising? Mental issues in the dog that have been carried down through generations? I always have had mixed feelings, because I think there are some beautiful Pits around. Then again, I don't know if I would feel that comfortable with them being around my Yorkie. We, as humans, know not to provoke a dog, especially a Pit. I don't know if our little Yorkie babies will know not to. If they make the Pit mad, we all know who will lose that fight.
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My uncle had a pitt - INDOOR Dog - I really loved him but didn't have yorkies then and no internet so we didn't hear about attacks then -

now - I respect them but I'm afraid of them. 6 months ago just one street away from me - 2 escaped their yard and killed a little boy. It was the 3rd escape and attack. (it was on the news and my neighbor told me the rest) but this was the worst attack by the same 2 dogs - & the city had them put to sleep. How sad is that ?? A family lost their child because of irresponsible owners.

These dogs were roaming the streets so I blame the owners but I will NEVER let my girls around one - never. Why risk it ?

It's no offense to the pitt lovers that we want to protect our own dog.... it's taking a big chance with a dog that tends to be agressive to let them be around yorkies - no one can say they aren't agressive because they ARE. I feel bad for the breed but they just plain SCARE me

I saw one outside one day and froze. I don't do that with other dogs.

Hey V! I agree with you and with alot of what others have posted...I'm not sure if it's all of mass but around where I live you can't get homeowners insurance if you have a Pit..and alot of people with Rotties have a very high insurance rate on their homes. And like you ....I nearly have a heart attack if I see a pit. I know these poor dogs have gotten a bad rap and I KNEW what was going to happen when this thread was posted! This type of thread(among some others) seem to bring out the worst in people...However...everyone here is entitled to their opinion and nobody here should be rude to anyone. If this breed is the "sweetest" dog then why are there so many attacks? I know alot has to do with the owners but I do not believe that this is just the owners fault and lack of training...these dogs have been bred for years to fight...Just like our little furbabies were bred for ratting...even though they haven't ratted in years look what happens when they see a squirel or chipmunk. IMO...I could never just one...they just make me very nervous.
The breeder I bought the girls from also breeds Rotties....I love the breed..she has one female that stays in the house with the Yorkies...she is the sweetest dog you could meet..then their are those in the pens that would rip you apart if they got loose...Would I ever own one??? I don't know..even though I love the breed they (like the Pits) are a very strong muscular dog that could do alot of damage..Personally...I feel they shouldn't allow Pit breeding and "this is MY OPINION!" Now....no jumping on me!

and I not talking about you Villette!!! I didn't agree with you I added some things LOL...kinda got carried away!
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ok after reading this thread i also would like to add something
i had a chow for a year and he was fine with my family members. but anyone outside my household he would have attacked if he had a chance. and because of this i couldn't keep him. the breed was band from my neighborhood. i couldn't walk him or anything. but he was the sweetest dog... with the family. he was an indoor dog but lived outside during the day. he seemed to prefer it out there. i think he thought he could better protect us there. some teens used to cut through my yard ... lets just say they go around now! but we did not teach him to do that he just was very protective.

my MIL has a poodle/ maltese mix... he is a small dog... he bite my niece once for no apparent reason. just attacked her. so... small dogs attack too.

why do people allow others opinions irritate them so that they retaliate with comments. if you don't agree with something someone says say so... but if you feel they were rude about so what! ya'll get heated on here sometimes. dang! its ok for them to say what they say they way they wanna say it just like its ok for you. just let it go. chill ya'll. woo woo woo
I can understand any dog being protective in their yards - but it's different than one who breaks out of his yard and attacks - and when you said small dogs attack too - they can and do - but the chance of someone being killed or severly injured is pretty slim. That's why pitts are so scary - they ARE strong and can take down a man in seconds. They also go for the throat - small dogs go for the ankles or whatever is in front of their little short selves...

and I thought this thread was pretty good considering the subject - interesting reading and no one got 'heated' ....whoo hoo !!
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ok after reading this thread i also would like to add something
i had a chow for a year and he was fine with my family members. but anyone outside my household he would have attacked if he had a chance. and because of this i couldn't keep him. the breed was band from my neighborhood. i couldn't walk him or anything. but he was the sweetest dog... with the family. he was an indoor dog but lived outside during the day. he seemed to prefer it out there. i think he thought he could better protect us there. some teens used to cut through my yard ... lets just say they go around now! but we did not teach him to do that he just was very protective.

my MIL has a poodle/ maltese mix... he is a small dog... he bite my niece once for no apparent reason. just attacked her. so... small dogs attack too.

why do people allow others opinions irritate them so that they retaliate with comments. if you don't agree with something someone says say so... but if you feel they were rude about so what! ya'll get heated on here sometimes. dang! its ok for them to say what they say they way they wanna say it just like its ok for you. just let it go. chill ya'll. woo woo woo
you are right!! everyone has a right to their own opinion but, this is one of those topics that seem to get heated quickly...People have every right to their opinion but, that can be done without being rude to other members...
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Hey V! I agree with you and with alot of what others have posted...I'm not sure if it's all of mass but around where I live you can't get homeowners insurance if you have a Pit..and alot of people with Rotties have a very high insurance rate on their homes. And like you ....I nearly have a heart attack if I see a pit. I know these poor dogs have gotten a bad rap and I KNEW what was going to happen when this thread was posted! This type of thread(among some others) seem to bring out the worst in people...However...everyone here is entitled to their opinion and nobody here should be rude to anyone. If this breed is the "sweetest" dog then why are there so many attacks? I know alot has to do with the owners but I do not believe that this is just the owners fault and lack of training...these dogs have been bred for years to fight...Just like our little furbabies were bred for ratting...even though they haven't ratted in years look what happens when they see a squirel or chipmunk. IMO...I could never just one...they just make me very nervous.
The breeder I bought the girls from also breeds Rotties....I love the breed..she has one female that stays in the house with the Yorkies...she is the sweetest dog you could meet..then their are those in the pens that would rip you apart if they got loose...Would I ever own one??? I don't know..even though I love the breed they (like the Pits) are a very strong muscular dog that could do alot of damage..Personally...I feel they shouldn't allow Pit breeding and "this is MY OPINION!" Now....no jumping on me!

and I not talking about you Villette!!! I do agree with you I added some things LOL...kinda got carried away!

I didn't agree with you I added some things LOL...kinda got carried away!


OOPS! I meant I DO! so sorry!
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It might work but what if it didn't? I personally wouldn't take the chance. I would NEVER let Brutus near a pit or a very large dog anyway and I don't care how "socialized" and "sweet" they were. You read to many bad stories about them. I don't even think they're an attractive breed and no offense to anyone but with so many dog breeds to choose from why choose a dog with such a bad reputation?

And if you get the pit and keep it outside would you then let your yorkie near it? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen in my opinion.
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you are right!! everyone has a right to their own opinion but, this is one of those topics that seem to get heated quickly...People have every right to their opinion but, that can be done without being rude to other members...
i don't think they were rude in how they said it. i would have said the same thing the same way. you can't bite peoples head off for feeling the way they do. and even if they are stating their opinion why not listen to what they are saying rather than how they are saying it. i'm just saying

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You hit the nail right on the head. That is exactly what worries me! How often have you heard or read in the news that someone had a loving family pit bull, had it since it was 8 weeks old, it was a special family member and was so oh gentle and sweet and loving ... and then one day out of the blue, the owner was taking the dog on it's routine nightly walk and for no reason, it charged a little girl and attacked her? WHAT made that loving, family pet snap and attack someone? And then the owner says, 'This is the first time my dog has ever done this." It's just a little strange to me. WHAT made that dog snap?
One news report said the pit that attacked the little 5 year old girl and killed her just the other day was frightened by fireworks. You can't control something like that.

I think just about any breed of dog may bite -- the difference comes when one leaves a scratch or tiny puncture and one rips the face up or the jugular out. This is a subject that will always have two sides. People who have always been around them will always extol their virtues and those who know of or have been moved by a child's death or disfigurement will think them too dangerous. I would never be able to live with myself if my choice in a dog wound up costing an innocent child their life. I won't ever take that chance.
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i don't think they were rude in how they said it. i would have said the same thing the same way. you can't bite peoples head off for feeling the way they do. and even if they are stating their opinion why not listen to what they are saying rather than how they are saying it. i'm just saying
I think you (not you personally but in general) can state your opinion without being rude or sarcastic or disrespectful to someone elses post. Plus to understand "what" they are saying a post has to actually make sense.
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The only thing I want to say on the subject of Pit Bull dogs, is where I live, your home owners insurance goes up if you own a Pit Bull dog. I guess because they are considered by the insurance companies in my area ,as potentially dangerous dogs. I know they usually have at least a couple of Pit Bull dogs at our local Humane League at any given time there.

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It's the same around here, except it either goes up, or you can't get home owners insurance. It's also like that with Dobermans, Rotts, and I forgot what else, but it's with a few different breeds.
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you can't bite peoples head off for feeling the way they do. and even if they are stating their opinion why not listen to what they are saying rather than how they are saying it. i'm just saying


You are absolutley right.
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Get ready cause I am jumping in this feet first I have a GSD(German Shepherd) & 4 little yorkies(1 morkie) but I can tell you that Max is the sweetest dog in town, my biggest concern is he is so big he likes jump and uses his paws to play, he is only a 10 month old 110lb puppy, so NO I will not let him play with the little ones, he could hurt them really bad not meaning too..Max is well behaved he has been in doggie training camp for over a month and is very much under control, but they are dogs and like to play just like my yorkies use there mouths and paws to play...So he doesn't get to play with them yet...I am hoping when he is older he will get all of his "puppy playing" out and just chill around them, but we will see..and YES Max stays outside most of the time and I have a problem with people stay why have him if you going to keep him out, Well for the record He is the one that wants to be outside most of the time... I try to get him in alot and he rather be outside...Off my little box....I would say be very careful.....
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Look I know that I was going to have DIFFERENT oppinions and I was OPEN to hear ALL of them thats WHY I POST. I am not getting rude with anyone so therefore your post is IRRELEVANT.....why are you bashing me saying that I should of known that I would get all kind of answers. I KNEW THAT this is an OPEN FORUM...I appreciate everyone who replies back and the only thing I wrote back in saying was that I think a dog can have a GREAT life in the backyard and not all dogs are meant for the HOUSE..and THATS MY OPINION and that was IT! I DO respect YTers you should check yourself before you start telling me that I need to respect others opinion

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i think this thread will get NOWHERe ! if you wanna get one go right ahead if you dont then dont
i DONT believe in having dogs outside but then turn around & have a yorkie sleep in your bed it makes no sense if you dont want the SIZE of the dog in your house then dont get a dog that big
do not get all rude just cause someone has a different opinion
you should have known when you started this thread you would get a wide range of answers respect them
pit bulls are a VEry heated topic
IF you do get one inside or not PLEASE take the time to socialize it train and care for it
i think anyone owning a large breed should have Lots of time & training not just push it outside and expect it to be oh so friendly cause it wont be
i think if you and your boyfriend are willing to spend a ton of time with this dog to ensure it will have a good temperment and not be on the news when its full grown

& michiko that was really rude i understand your passionate about this but people are allowed to have there own opinion & some dogs are not for some people

to the original poster i suggest you do a ton of research & mabee even join a pitbull forum
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