de-barking

[rsmit02]

This disgusts me more than I can even begin to type. i mean how can a dog tell you if they are in pain or distressed!!!!

What makes it worse is NO DOG IS UNTRAINABLE ONLY OWNERS and dogs can be trained not to bark in circumstances it shouldnt. Training is hard work it takes time and dedication but for me de-barking is a lazy, disgusting, way to treat a dog and should be illegal unless surgically required for the dogs health.

Ruthx

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

thats not true. i am a stay at home mother who has done everything w my babies. they know tricks...they are allowed in the front yard to roam in my court at will b/c they listen to me. but when it comes to barking, muffie will stop when i tell him to but kirby will not.

Well then you wouldn’t fall into that category, would you? Notice I said “ALOT” not “ALL”.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

let us know what your secret is....please.

I trained mine usiing the cllicker. They didnt like the sound of it so every time they went in a barking frenzy we would click it and tell them no barking. When they quit barking they got a treat. After a while of that they knew when they could and couldnt bark and they no longer frenzy bark. They still might bark at a cat or something but I have to do is tell then no bark

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

bamafan

i wanted to add, please let us know what to do to stop them from barking.

Mine bark at strangers, when they are playing, when someone knocks on the door, when people are outside....why would I WANT to discourage that!?!? Actually, I trained my grandparents dog (used to be my dog) not bark by getting this training device that emits a high frequency noise. I sat for several hours outside and everytime he'd bark or jump up on someone, I'd set it off. Took about 2 days and that ended it. They make bark collars that have sound sensors on them as well if I am not mistaken?

Never tried another method...never needed to.

[Peters]

Originally Posted by janedks3406

hmmmmm.......i have considered the possibility of getting 2 of my yorkies debarked, only because it does not matter what i do they bark, and my neighbors on the left of me just sit there and complain and complain, saying the dogs are giving them a headache, Emerald started to bark at them ever since the wife sprayed her with cold water. I was told that either they quit barking or I will either have to pay a huge fine or get rid of the dogs, now i have done alot of research on this, not many vets do it, but its a 20 minute operation, they go in the morning, and done by the afternoon, they have a slight sore throat. I DO NOT want to get rid of my babies, just because myneighbor is ignornant. the husband is on the town council men, and he has been spreading rumors around that these dogs are out day and night, I let them out to do business for 5 to 10 minutes, and even then its a long shot, they are upset that i have 5 dogs. not that the fact they bark. Now i have saw it will cost me 150 to get it done, 300 dollars, 5000-10,000 dollar fine, or get rid of them??? which would you do.....still weighing my options.

move or train your dogs

[lisatodd]

thank you bamafan and chachi for your advise. now the clicker, where do you get this?

[chachi]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

thank you bamafan and chachi for your advise. now the clicker, where do you get this?

You can get one at Petsmart and Petco. They are great

[Francie]

Originally Posted by omega

What do you think of a breeder ( with many dogs) that debarks some of them so the neighbors don't complain?

omega

To take one of the most vital communication skills away from an animal...is cruel to me. I think there are other more viable solutions....i.e.....Clicker Training. Not to mention re-homing the animal....and getting a Basenji....


Francie

[YORKIEMOM2B2006]

just wondering what some people would do if it was a skin baby that cried and screamed constantly...what would they do then......

if a dog barks constantly I would think he wants attention or is bored..so fix the problem....if you dont have time to spend with the dog then he deserves a better home anyways.

[omega]

Wow, hot topic. The dogs did sound pathetic and I thought too, she should be out farther in the country and away from neighbors - but that won't be happening. I do feel sorry for the dogs....

omega

[Ivy Lucille]

My neighbor is a breeder that debarks her dogs. They still make noise and I think it is more annoying than regular barking. It sounds so painful when they bark. I don't hear them because she is a field away. I am in a rural area and she still does it She does it because the barking gets on her nerves Don't even get me started on *that*!

I fixed our barking problem with a squirt bottle of water. Worked wonders. I permit my 2 two to alert us of somebody coming or sounds or whatever but once I say "good girl or good boy" that ends it. It only took a time or two with a quick squirt and I haven't had a problem since. On the rare occaision when they keep at it, I just show them the bottle Works like a charm. But that doesn't happen often, in fact right now I don't even know where my bottle is. Hmmmmmm...


I just noticed that this post is #300!!!! Yeah me-I am going to hit 500 yet!!! lol

[dray]

I was going to try and not respond to this but I thought I would just so some of you can see my side and I do understand that many of you wont and that is your right and it is okay with me.

I have several of my dogs de- barked , I do not think I am lazy by any means but I do have some yappy kids. And yes I believe I can train them if I wanted to but I like it when they bark their little heads off. But I am a responsible breeder and a very good neighbor. I de-bark so my kids can go out side if they want during the day or night and I am sure they will not bother anyone. I do not want to ever worry about my dogs getting poisoned or worse because the neighbors have had enough. My dogs still make enough noise to alert me of problems or pain and they still bark like crazy and I never have to yell at them or worry about them.

The operation is simple and they come home that very afternoon. They can eat right away so I do not believe they are in much if any pain. I have been a breeder for some 30 years and in these years I have had several dogs debarked and have loved the results of every one.

I do not have my Standard Poodle de- barked as he is the protector of the little ones while they are outside, he does not bark at leaves or cats or just to hear himself bark as some of the little dogs do.

Now a yorkie that is a pet or maybe even two get everything they want they have no need to bark , but if you are a breeder of say five or more, they can get to barking up a storm and then feed off of each other. This is not something I care to listen to and if I had a neighbor with barking dogs I would not at all like to live this way.
We pay a lot of money for our homes, life should be good, I just make sure that my neighbors are never bothered by my dogs. They have told me many times how much they appreciate how I take care of my dogs. We do have some very noisy dogs in our neighborhood, but they are not mine.

De-barking is not for every dog or for every one, there is always two sides to everything.
Before any of you go there if it were my child I would hold them when they cried and I would listen when they talked and every one of you that know me knows that is true, but when my group of kids go outside they are out there to bark and play and have fun, no one has told them they are de-barked , don't let the word out.

Thats it , please don't be to hard on me.....

[YORKIEMOM2B2006]

please tell me this is NOT a common practice for "reputable" breeders.

[janedks3406]

I wish I could just pack up and leave, and move into the country, better yet move my neighbor! And no I do train my dogs, I have tried water, I have tried a high pitched frequency box, the first couple of weeks they didn't like it but after that it was like they were ammunine to it, Emerald starts barking or peeka, and then the whole pack starts, and it is loud you can hear them down the street, this is in my house. I have tried the treat, I have done the no barking, mind you they do not bark much when I am at home, its more when we leave or come into the house. Or when my neighbor is out other than that, they don't bark. All my other neighbors have not complained, my husband and i actually went around the neighborhood asking if anyone was bothered by the dogs, no one complained..........so i will try and and find the clicker, we are going to the city on friday,

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by dray

Now a yorkie that is a pet or maybe even two get everything they want they have no need to bark , but if you are a breeder of say five or more, they can get to barking up a storm and then feed off of each other.

Hmm...good point.

Originally Posted by dray

Thats it , please don't be to hard on me.....

Oh yes, you must receive 100 lashes with a wet noodle.