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Old 08-02-2006, 06:26 AM   #46
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[QUOTE=candybaby]Nobody attack me I'm just stating my opinion.

I agree with you when I was looking to buy a yorky, many breeders asked 2,700 and up. It was too much for my budget and after a few months and hard research in newspapers, internet etc... I found my Kissie for 1,000.
It's reasonable but now she is priceless.
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I understand what goes into breeding. We breed quarter horses. They is even a greater price increase there because you only get one baby to make back your vet costs & such. The only problem I have is the cost of these small breed dogs compared to other purebreds. I understand why they cost more. One you don't get as many puppies as larger breeds, & two it's supply & demand. Yorkies are still a somewhat rare breed in some areas & they are very hot right now because of celebrities. There are more people that want them then there are puppies available therefore higher prices. Take for example the breeder I got Logan from. The lady has a male & female only. They live in her home & she takes wonderful care of them. When I bought Logan a year ago he was $400. He is on the bigger side, but the picture of health. He is very smart & has a great personality. I contacted her to buy Logan a sister. She has raised her prices $200 in the past year because everyone told her how cheap her pups were that she could get more for them. $600 is still cheap, however, it proves my point that she did not raise the prices to cover expenses she raised the prices because there is such a great demand for these little guys that some people will pay any price just to own one.
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the old adage "you get what you pay for"...if you want a Pug perhaps you should go buy a pug, there is NO comparison!

Candybaby, Replicable breeder? I believe you mean reputable...any puppy buyer on YT (thats been here long enough) understands its vitally important to know the breed, study its attributes, the parents and the pedigrees.

To suggest we are over priced??? Thats just plain silly, many of us REPUTABLE breeders have detailed our breeding expenses and time involved producing a WELL BRED, GREAT REPRESENTATION OF THE BREED!

Using your logic, your $75.00 bunny cost the same to breed as the $5.00 down the road. Why are your breeding cost higher? How do you determine your pricing? Are you breeding for profit?
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I understand what goes into breeding. I contacted her to buy Logan a sister. She has raised her prices $200 in the past year because everyone told her how cheap her pups were that she could get more for them. $600 is still cheap, however, it proves my point that she did not raise the prices to cover expenses she raised the prices because there is such a great demand for these little guys that some people will pay any price just to own one.
Your breeder must have a very small program where she is only breeding a few pets. It doesnt make her any less reputable, but her program is probably not designed for the betterment of the breed.

Her pricing reflects the usual form as a small BYB. Most BYB"S do not know their bloodlines or know anything about their pedigrees, do not do testing prior to entering them into his/her breeding program. Most BYB's do not take thought in matching breeding pairs, rarely give a 1 year guarantee, lets their pups go 6-8 weeks with one vaccination and more than likely hasnt seen the vet more than once (tail docking and dewclaws).
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Pugs are cheap? Are you kidding! My friend Rachel bought a little Pug (she named him Puggles LOLOL how cute is that!!!) and he cost her WAY MORE than my Yorkies cost me (Tia was $1,600 and Kaite (RIP) was $1,200)!! She paid $3,500 for him!! My co-worker John (another huge animal lover like me) has 2 cutie pie sharpies (not sure if spelling is correct lol) and he spent $6,000 for the girl and his partner just bought him a little boy so that the girl would have a friend and he cost $4,800. All these dogs were bought from quality breeders -- NOT pet stores. So to say that just Yorkies are expensive is not accurate. I also know of a great breeder of Labs in New Jersey and she charges a set price of $1,500 (doesn't matter if it's male or female). Her price only goes up if she has complications with the litter or the pup requires any special extra vet care. When my dad bought his first German Shepherd years ago (he was a beloved family pet for 13 years -- rest in peace Blacky) he paid $1,000 for him and that is going back almost 20 years ago.
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Hummm... $75.00 dollars for a bunny???? With out a money back guarentee???? Geeesh what happen to the hobby???? Isn't these price exorbitant???

Great Post Stacy and Kathryn_V !!!! And to all of the rest of you that understand us breeders that want to make sure you get the best, healthest, and well solicatized pup that we can produce for loving homes.
Lets get one thing straight. I NEVER SAID I RAISE RABBITS AS A HOBBY AND I NEVER STATED I DID NOT GET A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY TO SPEND. "NOW DID I". DONT GET IT TWISTED. READ THE OTHER POSTS BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETING STUPID LIKE THIS.

Also you know nothing about rabbits otherwise you would know those Blue eyed white (BEW) lionhead bunnies go for $150, so YES I'm cheap and so should people be with the yorkies, thats all I'm saying. One cage alone costs about a $100 dollars (and every bunny needs their own cage), and that does not include food, bottles, feeding dishes, fresh alfalfa hay, bedding, among alot of other things. You don't see me complaining or charging an arm and a leg. Before you state something stupid like this do your research on show rabbits and you'll see what I'm talking about.

You nothing NOTHING about show rabbits. So, I don't want to here another thing about my prices, they are cheap unlike some yorkies.
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the old adage "you get what you pay for"...if you want a Pug perhaps you should go buy a pug, there is NO comparison!

Candybaby, Replicable breeder? I believe you mean reputable...any puppy buyer on YT (thats been here long enough) understands its vitally important to know the breed, study its attributes, the parents and the pedigrees.

To suggest we are over priced??? Thats just plain silly, many of us REPUTABLE breeders have detailed our breeding expenses and time involved producing a WELL BRED, GREAT REPRESENTATION OF THE BREED!

Using your logic, your $75.00 bunny cost the same to breed as the $5.00 down the road. Why are your breeding cost higher? How do you determine your pricing? Are you breeding for profit?
Read my other post once again you know nothing about show rabbits or you would know my prices are cheap. As for the spelling error I'v seen in other posts you'v made them as well and this is YT not Stanford University.
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So, I guess the ones attacking me are the outrageously priced yorkie breeders. Don't talk to me about breeding whether it's a rabbit or a dog because I do my research unlike some of you and I know what goes into it and what a reasonable price is for one. And thousands of dollars is not reasonably priced. END OF SUBJECT FOR ME!!!
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I understand what goes into breeding. We breed quarter horses. They is even a greater price increase there because you only get one baby to make back your vet costs & such. The only problem I have is the cost of these small breed dogs compared to other purebreds. I understand why they cost more. One you don't get as many puppies as larger breeds, & two it's supply & demand. Yorkies are still a somewhat rare breed in some areas & they are very hot right now because of celebrities. There are more people that want them then there are puppies available therefore higher prices. Take for example the breeder I got Logan from. The lady has a male & female only. They live in her home & she takes wonderful care of them. When I bought Logan a year ago he was $400. He is on the bigger side, but the picture of health. He is very smart & has a great personality. I contacted her to buy Logan a sister. She has raised her prices $200 in the past year because everyone told her how cheap her pups were that she could get more for them. $600 is still cheap, however, it proves my point that she did not raise the prices to cover expenses she raised the prices because there is such a great demand for these little guys that some people will pay any price just to own one.
PRAISE THE LORD!!!!

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So what's the difference between you putting effort into breeding and researching and producing a quality rabbit that you charge 75.00 for when anyone can buy just any old rabbit for 5.00...and a reputable yorkie breeder who puts effort into breeding and researching and producing a quality yorkie and charges 1,800 when someone can buy any old yorkie for 800. ? I would say the percentage of mark up there is bit higher on rabbits.
and before you start pointing fingers at who does research and who does not...you may want to read up a bit.
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So what's the difference between you putting effort into breeding and researching and producing a quality rabbit that you charge 75.00 for when anyone can buy just any old rabbit for 5.00...and a reputable yorkie breeder who puts effort into breeding and researching and producing a quality yorkie and charges 1,800 when someone can buy any old yorkie for 800. ? I would say the percentage of mark up there is bit higher on rabbits.
and before you start pointing fingers at who does research and who does not...you may want to read up a bit.
If I calculate correctly the mark up there is higher on the yorkies $1000 more versus $70 more, come on now we all went to school. Once again this proves my point you did not do your research or you would know it's a lionhead rabbit not any rabbit and you cannot find a LIONHEAD rabbit for $5, not even in a pet store, you can find a cheap yorkie in a pet store. To me a yorkie is a yorkie and paying that much is crazy and I'm talking about $2,000 and up (it seems I have to clarify everything or everyone twists my words).

We all know a well bred healthy yorkie should not cost that much (2,000 up), everyone just keeps lying to themselves and saying its okay to charge that because alot of time and money have been put into them, but in reality its way toooooooo much. And like I said in a different post an A.K.C judge EVEN stated people are getting out of control on the pricing of yorkies. Once I find that article I will definatly post it.


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And I'v done ALL my research and some I think you need to research a little more.
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Lets get one thing straight. I NEVER SAID I RAISE RABBITS AS A HOBBY AND I NEVER STATED I DID NOT GET A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY TO SPEND. "NOW DID I". DONT GET IT TWISTED. READ THE OTHER POSTS BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETING STUPID LIKE THIS.

Also you know nothing about rabbits otherwise you would know those Blue eyed white (BEW) lionhead bunnies go for $150, so YES I'm cheap and so should people be with the yorkies, thats all I'm saying. One cage alone costs about a $100 dollars (and every bunny needs their own cage), and that does not include food, bottles, feeding dishes, fresh alfalfa hay, bedding, among alot of other things. You don't see me complaining or charging an arm and a leg. Before you state something stupid like this do your research on show rabbits and you'll see what I'm talking about.

You nothing NOTHING about show rabbits. So, I don't want to here another thing about my prices, they are cheap unlike some yorkies.
I do know a little about rabbits as my father was a breeder of them and I have friends that actively show them... But just for comparison thought I would do a quick search.. Here are a few links to the lionheads bunnies and what others are selling them for... I tried to find breeders that do show these bunnies.

http://janinespride.com/pricing.html
https://www.usfreeads.com/494808-cls.html
http://www.petsads.com/a_20686.html
http://home.comcast.net/~p.j.bunnies/forsale.html

But I am not going to get into a pissing match here with you. I am confident in what I do and don't need validation from you or anyone else for that matter. I find it amazing when you are the one now being questioned here how you can justify yourself and your prices... And how you place judgement on others, but whatever...
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You know what I was thinking about this thread and this is stupid arguing over a price of our little furbies our babies are priceless. If you feel your babies are worth that much then sell them for that I'm sure their worth every penny. Thanks to breeders like you guys the yorkies are nicely bred and are of quality. I'm sorry if I said anything that offened any of you guys.

Anyhow, I hope there are no hard feelings !!!
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I do know a little about rabbits as my father was a breeder of them and I have friends that actively show them... But just for comparison thought I would do a quick search.. Here are a few links to the lionheads bunnies and what others are selling them for... I tried to find breeders that do show these bunnies.

http://janinespride.com/pricing.html
https://www.usfreeads.com/494808-cls.html
http://www.petsads.com/a_20686.html
http://home.comcast.net/~p.j.bunnies/forsale.html

But I am not going to get into a pissing match here with you. I am confident in what I do and don't need validation from you or anyone else for that matter. I find it amazing when you are the one now being questioned here how you can justify yourself and your prices... And how you place judgement on others, but whatever...
Like I said I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
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So, I guess the ones attacking me are the outrageously priced yorkie breeders. Don't talk to me about breeding whether it's a rabbit or a dog because I do my research unlike some of you and I know what goes into it and what a reasonable price is for one. And thousands of dollars is not reasonably priced. END OF SUBJECT FOR ME!!!
You buy a breeding doe/buck $100 a pair
Yorkie average "good example of the breed $5000 for the pair" if your lucky.

Breed age of Rabbits 6 months
Breed age of a Yorkie average 15-18 months

rabbit gestation is 30 days and capable of producing up to six litters a year yielding 1-12 babies per litter - most bunnies are sold at 1 month old

Yorkie gestation is 63 days yielding 1-3 babies per litter and capable of producing on average one litter every 9-12 months- most pups are placed after 3 months old.


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM - how can you even begin to compare the cost of breeding Rabbits to a Yorkie?
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