Please Help Me With Questions About Selling My Babies!!! PLEASE!!! - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

lisatodd · 07-24-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

read her post again. she didn't say her yorkies were to good for you. She thought they might not be good enough.

Sadly, your quick negative response is exactly the kind of thing she's afraid of.

i know and i am sorry. just after i posted that, i quickly summited another thread.

Gingergirlsmom · 07-24-2006, 07:22 AM

Sorry, guess I jumped a little quickly too.

TeddyandTiffy · 07-24-2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lisatodd

ohhh and another thing..... we all have not so "standard" yorkies. i have a yorkie-poo and a 8lb yorkie with huge ears and a long snout.
you never know!!!! puppies are puppies are puppies and they are all adorable.
i didn't mean to sound ugly with my last post but i was offended then i got over it.

NO NO that is fine, I understand, I just want good home! Like U I don't want someone who CLAIMS to want, care, love and pamper them then throw them in the corner for our Yorkees (ALL YORKEE'S) are ones to be loved and WANTS and HAS TO HAVE affection!! They are not U're throw in the back yard and tie up type of dogs! I don't do that with NONE of my babies big or little!! I mean they go play outside with us, I pamper them, love them, kiss them and hug them...But it's hard to do 6 dogs this way all the time and I feel bad for I can't be with them ALL the time or let them run all the time.. They are in the their crate some & that is hard on me...Maybe not them but me... Plus I have 2 smaller girls (10.5 & 7.5) and if I let the puppie run the house all the time I'm afraid they will get hurt...Maybe I'm to loving??? They get baths all the time, hair brushed, I just trimmed their hair on their butts, ears and paws, I clean their crate @ least twice a day...Which I have to say they are doing good about going to the potty in the cat litter pan lined with newspaper and they are doing real good about peeing on the puppy pads when their out of the crate now pooping sometimes they have accidents but that is okay too all part of being a puppy and learning...I also don't smack them them...I clap my hands and say a firm NO or slap my hand with a rolled up newspaper & say a firm NO. I will keep in mind U'r e thoughts too!

I also WILL NOT SHIP!! Me myself think that could be very hard on dogs...NO OFFENSE to those who do & I know people here do it and is fine with it...But me no thanks I just won't.
As far as size: Tiffanie is 10 lbs! So I know what it is to have big & medium babies not all tiny...Would love to have one smaller but maybe later!

ALL I WANT is to make SURE they will be taken care of & loved with all their owner's hearts, mind body and souls!!!

Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies

Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:

http://www.dogster.com/?316369

Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:

http://www.dogster.com/?316383

Kizzys Mom · 07-24-2006, 07:59 AM

I personally would never buy any dog from anyone that wanted my life history, background check, references on me. Not that I have anything to hide, but people who buy puppies are gonna have to pay you johnny on the spot. If they wanted all of that info from me, I would expect in return, a 100% guarantee that I could get my money(cash) back not a replacement dog from the same person as I might get the same thing I got from you in the first place. People, wake up and smell the roses. All buyers are not idiots. People are not buying a house from you and making payments on it. Once a dog is sold, to me, its none of the persons business what I do once it leaves their hands. If people are so worried about what is gonna happen to them, why dont they just keep them so they will know what happens. Personally once I buy a dog, I feel like its my baby and I dont even like the idea of people saying whether you can breed one or not. I mean once something is bought and paid for to me it is my property, meaning, NO LONGER YOURS. This sounds like grandparents trying to tell their kids what they can or cant do with their own children. So people can keep adding all their rules in their contracts and wanting to know your history and soon their will be a lot of breeders and back yard breeders with a house full of dogs if others feel like I do. I feel like its bad business to sell anything and have the right of taking their money and then telling them what to do with what they bought, yet nobody that I know of will give you back your money if the dog is suppose to be a certain size and isnt or a certain color or isnt. the buyer can not guarantee you their gonna always keep this particular dog if their not happy with it, but once purchased, its is theirs whether they like how it turns out or not. I would never throw mine away but its my business if I sell it to someone else or give it away or breed it. So anyone on here dont like the way I feel and want to come down on me for it, put yourself in the buyers shoes for a minute. Are you gonna give me references, and can I do a back ground ck on you and can I tell you if this dog gets bigger than 4, 5, etc lbs or its color ends up being yuck or coat being matty, or not shiny or whatever that you have to give me back my money? NO.
So think about what YOU would expect from a seller if you gave them all that info and get nothing in return of what their selling as a guarantee of your money, other than a health guarantee of no genetic defects and such.

MyTrixie143 · 07-24-2006, 08:56 AM

This is what I would do...
First of all you should not offer a health guarantee, it would be pointless since you don't know the lineage and you would be taking a HUGE risk by doing this. The only health guarantee you could possibly offer is that your puppies will be healthy when they get them.

Questions to ask are....
Have you ever owned a yorkie or a toy breed or are you familiar with the breed (toys need special care being that they are so small and can get hurt real easily)

Have you ever owned a dog?

List your current animals you have

If they have owned a dog or yorkie ask for contact information for their vet, this way you can see how past or current dogs are being taken care of

How many hours a day will the puppy be home by himself/herself, you don't want to sell a puppy to someone who will be home only for a couple hours

Are you familiar with hypoglycemia??

If your pup needs training, are you willing to do the training yourself or enroll the puppy in classes?

Do you have young children and would they be able to properly handle a yorkie?

Do you take full responsibilty for the puppies overall wellbeing and caare and are you able to provide your puppy with routine vet care and flea and heart worm prevenatative?

Are you willing to provide grooming care to your puppy, alot of people don't realize that their coats need alot of attention

Where will your yorkie puppy be housed?

Do you realize that yorkies are strictly indoor dogs and should never ever be housed outdoors??

What personality trait best fits your life style, active (best for working owners, traveling, or children) or quiet (best for lap lovers, stay at home owners, only adults in household, generally living a quiet life)

Also if you write up a contract, you can put in there that the puppy must be spayed/neutered by a certain date, 6,7 months, what ever you decide. You can also offfer that if they do get them spayed/neutered by that date you will give them some money back, and will release the registration papers to them.

Anyways these are some of the questions I came up with, I am sure there are many more. Good luck with your babies!!

lisatodd · 07-24-2006, 09:09 AM

wow...that post is a good one to consider..
how many puppies do you have to sale?

yorkieusa · 07-24-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyandTiffy

U are rotten! How many do U have??? Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies

Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:

http://www.dogster.com/?316369

Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:

http://www.dogster.com/?316383

I know I'm rotten!

But in a good way! I only spoil my yorkies rotten!

I only have one at this time. When things calm down around here, I may add a playmate!

TeddyandTiffy · 07-24-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

read her post again. she didn't say her yorkies were to good for you. She thought they might not be good enough.

Sadly, your quick negative response is exactly the kind of thing she's afraid of.

Thanks so much! U're right that was what I was afraid of "The negative respone... I didn't think My puppies are TO GOOD for U all here! I was afraid they would NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH for others on here!!! I mean I know there is breeders here for SHOW only or Breeders here that have YORKEEs that will only be a TINY YORKEEs! Mine are I'd say in my eyes Perfect! I know some will not think that but that's okay too! Thanks for sticking up for me! I truely apprecaite it! Means a lot. I'm just trying to do the right thing and learn the RIGHT things in the process! If I was a breeder who just wanted to let them go to anyone I'd done that @ 6 weeks of age!!! Right here in my own home town!! But NO I still have them & they are almost 12 weeks old!! Thanks so much again!
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies

Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:

http://www.dogster.com/?316369

Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:

http://www.dogster.com/?316383

TeddyandTiffy · 07-24-2006, 12:38 PM

I have 3 for sale, they all we're born on May 4, 2006: Sir. Lancelot who was 3 lbs. 5 ozs. on 7/21/06 and both his ears are standing up now (Was even before I trimmed them), Princess Isabella who was 2 lbs. 9 oz on 7/21/06 and both ears are standing up now (She had one flopping some but since I trimmed them now they are up) and Last but NOT least Princess Arimathea who was 3 lbs. 3 oz on 7/21/06 and her ears are up (Was even before I trimmed them). Their Daddy Teddy is 1 & 1/2 and lives with us and he is 6 lbs. 7.2 oz on 7/15/06 and their Mommy Tiffanie is 1 & 1/2 & lives with us also & she weighs 10 lbs. 4 oz. I love them all...I have all 6 posted on Dogester.com all U have to do it scroll down to see the photos of them or look to the right of the page once U scroll down a little and U'll see: "Meet My Family" and U can click on them and see all our babies! Here the links below to the ones I'm wanting to sell.
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
aimeeyork Sir. Lancelot Avalon:

http://www.dogster.com/?348775

Princess Isabella Guinevere I:

http://www.dogster.com/?348779

Princess Arimathea Ambrosius:
http://www.dogster.com/?348789

TeddyandTiffy · 07-24-2006, 12:52 PM

abbey46923, I tried to send U a personal email and couldn't for it said U're inbox was to full...I'll try to send it later! Hugs, Lee

Kizzys Mom · 07-24-2006, 01:57 PM

I did not mean to come down on all breeders. But I've been ripped off two times as far as puppies being what the breeders claimed. So I guess now I just don't trust many. I mean I know a breeder can not say a dog will be x amt of pounds or x amount of coat and such. But when one tells you the puppy WON'T be over 4 lbs or she would keep her for breeding then you pay her 300 more for that one than the other one and she knew it was because of size she quoted with point blank positive talk and how she had 2 breeders try to buy it and she wouldnt sell it to them, then to me that is just not right. Dont get me wrong. I love kizzy and I want another one, but I would never buy anything from either breeders i've bought from before. I know some people will send in and get registeration papers for like 5 pups. then maybe one or two die and they take a couple from another litter which have bigger parents and register them to the smaller parents and I also know some DO have kennels somewhere on their property and just a few small cages in their house and pretend these puppies are all raised in this clean house and all then you find out they had kennels some place way off on their land where you dont see them and raise all breeds rather than the 3 breeds they claimed was all they had. SEE why I feel like I do. That is why i posted what I did, because I am reading more and more that breeders want your history as to show how you are gonna treat this dog yet you dont get that on them. I have learned a lot now from the two I did business with. I wont say all breeders are bad or do any of the things I just mentioned but I will say next one I buy will come from someone I know or get references on pups she/he has sold before. I think the info should go both ways personally. I've never put either of these breeders names on here as I feel I was ripped off by them but I am not into a smear campaign against anyone that I cant prove did something unscruptous. One puppy I gave 300 dollars for, mixed maltese and poodle, so maltepoo and I totally gave it away and lost everything I had put into it. Even had it neutered and all. It was so hyper it wasnt still except when it was asleep. and I know the breeder couldnt say it wouldnt be. But it kept growing and growing and it was suppose to stay under 6 lbs and last time he was weighed he weighed 8 lbs and still growing. So I gave him to a lady for her little 9 year old daughter whos puppy had got killed. She felt that if he had a child to run and play outside with he would be ok. I was upfront about everything with her before she took the dog. She came to my house and saw exactly how hyper he was. So now you see why I am leary of people. I sure hope you all understand and do not hate me for stating my opinion here. But if so, so be it. I just been thinking on my post since I wrote it and didnt want people to think I meant all breeders are bad. But it is something you learn about some as you go I suppose. Next time anyone tells me distinctively a puppy WILL NOT be over x amt of lbs I will make sure I get it in writing, or I will NOT buy it, since they feel so knowlegible and positive about it they want 300 extra bucks for it. I think she must have seen me coming and she knew I fell in love with it when I saw it. The reason I know some breeders do take some that are not the true puppies is because my neice had 5 snauzers and a guy came to her and wanted to buy them all and he told her that sometimes one or two of his puppies die and he buys others (cheaper ones) to use the registration papers for, hers were ckc and he sold akc. So she wouldnt sell him any of hers. So that to me is very very unethical and down right sorry of him. So please understand why I posted what I did. Sorry for the long post.

Francie · 07-24-2006, 02:29 PM

The reason I know some breeders do take some that are not the true puppies is because my neice had 5 snauzers and a guy came to her and wanted to buy them all and he told her that sometimes one or two of his puppies die and he buys others (cheaper ones) to use the registration papers for, hers were ckc and he sold akc. So she wouldnt sell him any of hers.

She should have taken his money.....then given him 5 Hamsters...and say "How does it feel?"

I guarantee that behavior will come back to haunt him. Some day...someone is going to report him to the AKC...and he will never be able to register puppies again...ever.

Francie

SJK1113 · 07-24-2006, 03:43 PM

I think here is a good place to post them for sale. This honestly is the best place I've found for questions, advice, help, etc. Everyone is very nice and helpful, and I think when people are seriously looking, here is a great place to find good homes.

I wouldn't worry about the puppies not being good enough. There are lots of people looking for pet-quality Yorkies, as they can't afford the high prices. I have looked at and responded to tons of ads, and I am mostly running into scammers, which is so annoying. Most people don't want to wade through all that when it's easier to come here and find what they're looking for from serious people who love their Yorkies!

I wish you all the best!

Kizzys Mom · 07-24-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Francie

The reason I know some breeders do take some that are not the true puppies is because my neice had 5 snauzers and a guy came to her and wanted to buy them all and he told her that sometimes one or two of his puppies die and he buys others (cheaper ones) to use the registration papers for, hers were ckc and he sold akc. So she wouldnt sell him any of hers.

She should have taken his money.....then given him 5 Hamsters...and say "How does it feel?"

I guarantee that behavior will come back to haunt him. Some day...someone is going to report him to the AKC...and he will never be able to register puppies again...ever.

Francie

well, she didnt know his name or anything about him. I guess he thought to make the quick money she would sell them just to get rid of them and get her money like I'm sure people must have done with him in the past. But we're not the kind of people who go for that kind of stuff, not even for money.

TeddyandTiffy · 07-24-2006, 05:10 PM

Well I've set back and thought about U're thoughts here and they have bothered me all day long so here it goes...

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Originally Posted by Kizzys Mom

I personally would never buy any dog from anyone that wanted my life history, background check, references on me. Not that I have anything to hide, but people who buy puppies are gonna have to pay you johnny on the spot. If they wanted all of that info from me, I would expect in return, a 100% guarantee that I could get my money(cash) back not a replacement dog from the same person as I might get the same thing I got from you in the first place.

Well I will not just sell my babies to anyone...1st off I've been 100% honest with everyone here and I have NOTHING to hide! I will get info from people or keep my babies! Yes I may end up with a house full but so be it to insure they have a good home...

People, wake up and smell the roses. All buyers are not idiots. People are not buying a house from you and making payments on it. Once a dog is sold, to me, its none of the persons business what I do once it leaves their hands.

I myself in no way am saying that buyers are idiots!!! & I feel it would be my business if U bought a dog from me...For that is MY duty as a LOVING, CARING, GOOD, CONCERNED BREEDER to wonder and yes maybe call the people who buy my babies to see how they are doing & YES EVEN ASK FOR PHOTOS every now and then!!! Maybe U don't understand how it is to have a litter of babies but let me tell U with the way people are nowday it's a wonder we as breeders are so worried about what homes our babies go to!!!!

If people are so worried about what is gonna happen to them, why dont they just keep them so they will know what happens. Personally once I buy a dog, I feel like its my baby and I dont even like the idea of people saying whether you can breed one or not. I mean once something is bought and paid for to me it is my property, meaning, NO LONGER YOURS.

Well @ 1st I thought it was bad for people saying U should have a contract for people not to be able to breed U're puppies...But after ME myself calling some ads in the paper to see what the other breeders in my OWN home town was like and after reading some post here on this fourm I can 100% understand why it is a big deal to breeders!!!! And there is a beautiful light colored YORKEE that I see RUNNING around in my neighbors back yards and one neighbor has a HOUND and my husband said he saw that HOUND trying to MATE with that Beautiful YORKEE...NOW U CALL THAT A GOOD OWNER??? & NO THIS YORKEE doesn't just get out under the fence it runs like this ALL the time!!! And NOW I'm ONE of those BREEDERs who is concerned about puppy mills and MY DOGS being in one of them!! For I will NOT breed Tiffanie MY OWN FEMALE but ONCE a year for I don't want her wore out, she is a beautiful baby and I just don't want her to go through it all the time!!!!!!!! That isn't the point of anyone saying that dog isn't U'res but we as breeders MUST make SURE examples like my neighbors doesn't happen!!!!

This sounds like grandparents trying to tell their kids what they can or cant do with their own children.

Well I have a new 1st grandchild and YES I tell her MOTHER what I think about how she does certian things....What MOTHER/GRANDMA doesn't if they LOVE/CARE about their children or grandchildren??? But U know what ALL 4 of my GIRLS respect my thoughts and listen, sure they may get mad but they get over it, just like I do!!!!!

So people can keep adding all their rules in their contracts and wanting to know your history and soon their will be a lot of breeders and back yard breeders with a house full of dogs if others feel like I do.

YES we as breeders has that right within reason, just like U as the buyer has rights too within reason!!!!

I feel like its bad business to sell anything and have the right of taking their money and then telling them what to do with what they bought, yet nobody that I know of will give you back your money if the dog is suppose to be a certain size and isnt or a certain color or isnt.

Well this is WHY I'm telling MY BUYERS I really don't know what size ANY of my babies will grow up to be...That is a 100% tough call! So they know what they are getting maybe larger/smaller then they theirselves might expect!

the buyer can not guarantee you their gonna always keep this particular dog if their not happy with it, but once purchased, its is theirs whether they like how it turns out or not. I would never throw mine away but its my business if I sell it to someone else or give it away or breed it. So anyone on here dont like the way I feel and want to come down on me for it, put yourself in the buyers shoes for a minute. Are you gonna give me references, and can I do a back ground ck on you and can I tell you if this dog gets bigger than 4, 5, etc lbs or its color ends up being yuck or coat being matty, or not shiny or whatever that you have to give me back my money? NO.

[COLOR="purple"]Yes I would give references to anyone who buys my babies...But with this being my 1st litter I can't give any references to anyone for I've never sold any before!!!! COLOR]

So think about what YOU would expect from a seller if you gave them all that info and get nothing in return of what their selling as a guarantee of your money, other than a health guarantee of no genetic defects and such.

I don't know how I'll write my puppy contract up but it will be in the best intrest of ALL parties involved!!! All I want is them to go to good homes and be well taken care of!!!!!!!!
Thanks for U're thoughts & I will keep in mind how U the buyer might feel as I've been one myself!

Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383

07-24-2006, 07:22 AM	#17
Gingergirlsmom and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 8,283	Sorry, guess I jumped a little quickly too. __________________ Ginger Bernie Fun Kitty

07-24-2006, 07:59 AM	#19
Kizzys Mom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Al, Heart of Dixie Posts: 581	I personally would never buy any dog from anyone that wanted my life history, background check, references on me. Not that I have anything to hide, but people who buy puppies are gonna have to pay you johnny on the spot. If they wanted all of that info from me, I would expect in return, a 100% guarantee that I could get my money(cash) back not a replacement dog from the same person as I might get the same thing I got from you in the first place. People, wake up and smell the roses. All buyers are not idiots. People are not buying a house from you and making payments on it. Once a dog is sold, to me, its none of the persons business what I do once it leaves their hands. If people are so worried about what is gonna happen to them, why dont they just keep them so they will know what happens. Personally once I buy a dog, I feel like its my baby and I dont even like the idea of people saying whether you can breed one or not. I mean once something is bought and paid for to me it is my property, meaning, NO LONGER YOURS. This sounds like grandparents trying to tell their kids what they can or cant do with their own children. So people can keep adding all their rules in their contracts and wanting to know your history and soon their will be a lot of breeders and back yard breeders with a house full of dogs if others feel like I do. I feel like its bad business to sell anything and have the right of taking their money and then telling them what to do with what they bought, yet nobody that I know of will give you back your money if the dog is suppose to be a certain size and isnt or a certain color or isnt. the buyer can not guarantee you their gonna always keep this particular dog if their not happy with it, but once purchased, its is theirs whether they like how it turns out or not. I would never throw mine away but its my business if I sell it to someone else or give it away or breed it. So anyone on here dont like the way I feel and want to come down on me for it, put yourself in the buyers shoes for a minute. Are you gonna give me references, and can I do a back ground ck on you and can I tell you if this dog gets bigger than 4, 5, etc lbs or its color ends up being yuck or coat being matty, or not shiny or whatever that you have to give me back my money? NO. So think about what YOU would expect from a seller if you gave them all that info and get nothing in return of what their selling as a guarantee of your money, other than a health guarantee of no genetic defects and such. __________________ :Please Pray for our troops and support the USA. Linda

07-24-2006, 08:56 AM	#20
MyTrixie143 Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,409	This is what I would do... First of all you should not offer a health guarantee, it would be pointless since you don't know the lineage and you would be taking a HUGE risk by doing this. The only health guarantee you could possibly offer is that your puppies will be healthy when they get them. Questions to ask are.... Have you ever owned a yorkie or a toy breed or are you familiar with the breed (toys need special care being that they are so small and can get hurt real easily) Have you ever owned a dog? List your current animals you have If they have owned a dog or yorkie ask for contact information for their vet, this way you can see how past or current dogs are being taken care of How many hours a day will the puppy be home by himself/herself, you don't want to sell a puppy to someone who will be home only for a couple hours Are you familiar with hypoglycemia?? If your pup needs training, are you willing to do the training yourself or enroll the puppy in classes? Do you have young children and would they be able to properly handle a yorkie? Do you take full responsibilty for the puppies overall wellbeing and caare and are you able to provide your puppy with routine vet care and flea and heart worm prevenatative? Are you willing to provide grooming care to your puppy, alot of people don't realize that their coats need alot of attention Where will your yorkie puppy be housed? Do you realize that yorkies are strictly indoor dogs and should never ever be housed outdoors?? What personality trait best fits your life style, active (best for working owners, traveling, or children) or quiet (best for lap lovers, stay at home owners, only adults in household, generally living a quiet life) Also if you write up a contract, you can put in there that the puppy must be spayed/neutered by a certain date, 6,7 months, what ever you decide. You can also offfer that if they do get them spayed/neutered by that date you will give them some money back, and will release the registration papers to them. Anyways these are some of the questions I came up with, I am sure there are many more. Good luck with your babies!! __________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey and the gang DestinyHarmonyScamperGracieLillieKiwi Hershey Peppi

07-24-2006, 09:09 AM	#21
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,460	wow...that post is a good one to consider.. how many puppies do you have to sale? __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

07-24-2006, 01:57 PM	#26
Kizzys Mom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Al, Heart of Dixie Posts: 581	I did not mean to come down on all breeders. But I've been ripped off two times as far as puppies being what the breeders claimed. So I guess now I just don't trust many. I mean I know a breeder can not say a dog will be x amt of pounds or x amount of coat and such. But when one tells you the puppy WON'T be over 4 lbs or she would keep her for breeding then you pay her 300 more for that one than the other one and she knew it was because of size she quoted with point blank positive talk and how she had 2 breeders try to buy it and she wouldnt sell it to them, then to me that is just not right. Dont get me wrong. I love kizzy and I want another one, but I would never buy anything from either breeders i've bought from before. I know some people will send in and get registeration papers for like 5 pups. then maybe one or two die and they take a couple from another litter which have bigger parents and register them to the smaller parents and I also know some DO have kennels somewhere on their property and just a few small cages in their house and pretend these puppies are all raised in this clean house and all then you find out they had kennels some place way off on their land where you dont see them and raise all breeds rather than the 3 breeds they claimed was all they had. SEE why I feel like I do. That is why i posted what I did, because I am reading more and more that breeders want your history as to show how you are gonna treat this dog yet you dont get that on them. I have learned a lot now from the two I did business with. I wont say all breeders are bad or do any of the things I just mentioned but I will say next one I buy will come from someone I know or get references on pups she/he has sold before. I think the info should go both ways personally. I've never put either of these breeders names on here as I feel I was ripped off by them but I am not into a smear campaign against anyone that I cant prove did something unscruptous. One puppy I gave 300 dollars for, mixed maltese and poodle, so maltepoo and I totally gave it away and lost everything I had put into it. Even had it neutered and all. It was so hyper it wasnt still except when it was asleep. and I know the breeder couldnt say it wouldnt be. But it kept growing and growing and it was suppose to stay under 6 lbs and last time he was weighed he weighed 8 lbs and still growing. So I gave him to a lady for her little 9 year old daughter whos puppy had got killed. She felt that if he had a child to run and play outside with he would be ok. I was upfront about everything with her before she took the dog. She came to my house and saw exactly how hyper he was. So now you see why I am leary of people. I sure hope you all understand and do not hate me for stating my opinion here. But if so, so be it. I just been thinking on my post since I wrote it and didnt want people to think I meant all breeders are bad. But it is something you learn about some as you go I suppose. Next time anyone tells me distinctively a puppy WILL NOT be over x amt of lbs I will make sure I get it in writing, or I will NOT buy it, since they feel so knowlegible and positive about it they want 300 extra bucks for it. I think she must have seen me coming and she knew I fell in love with it when I saw it. The reason I know some breeders do take some that are not the true puppies is because my neice had 5 snauzers and a guy came to her and wanted to buy them all and he told her that sometimes one or two of his puppies die and he buys others (cheaper ones) to use the registration papers for, hers were ckc and he sold akc. So she wouldnt sell him any of hers. So that to me is very very unethical and down right sorry of him. So please understand why I posted what I did. Sorry for the long post. __________________ :Please Pray for our troops and support the USA. Linda Last edited by Kizzys Mom; 07-24-2006 at 02:01 PM.

07-24-2006, 12:38 PM	#24
TeddyandTiffy Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 1,384	I have 3 for sale, they all we're born on May 4, 2006: Sir. Lancelot who was 3 lbs. 5 ozs. on 7/21/06 and both his ears are standing up now (Was even before I trimmed them), Princess Isabella who was 2 lbs. 9 oz on 7/21/06 and both ears are standing up now (She had one flopping some but since I trimmed them now they are up) and Last but NOT least Princess Arimathea who was 3 lbs. 3 oz on 7/21/06 and her ears are up (Was even before I trimmed them). Their Daddy Teddy is 1 & 1/2 and lives with us and he is 6 lbs. 7.2 oz on 7/15/06 and their Mommy Tiffanie is 1 & 1/2 & lives with us also & she weighs 10 lbs. 4 oz. I love them all...I have all 6 posted on Dogester.com all U have to do it scroll down to see the photos of them or look to the right of the page once U scroll down a little and U'll see: "Meet My Family" and U can click on them and see all our babies! Here the links below to the ones I'm wanting to sell. Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies aimeeyork Sir. Lancelot Avalon: http://www.dogster.com/?348775 Princess Isabella Guinevere I: http://www.dogster.com/?348779 Princess Arimathea Ambrosius: http://www.dogster.com/?348789

07-24-2006, 12:52 PM	#25
TeddyandTiffy Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seymour, Indiana Posts: 1,384	abbey46923, I tried to send U a personal email and couldn't for it said U're inbox was to full...I'll try to send it later! Hugs, Lee

07-24-2006, 02:29 PM	#27
Francie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,194	The reason I know some breeders do take some that are not the true puppies is because my neice had 5 snauzers and a guy came to her and wanted to buy them all and he told her that sometimes one or two of his puppies die and he buys others (cheaper ones) to use the registration papers for, hers were ckc and he sold akc. So she wouldnt sell him any of hers. She should have taken his money.....then given him 5 Hamsters...and say "How does it feel?" I guarantee that behavior will come back to haunt him. Some day...someone is going to report him to the AKC...and he will never be able to register puppies again...ever. Francie

07-24-2006, 03:43 PM	#28
SJK1113 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: usa Posts: 2,150	I think here is a good place to post them for sale. This honestly is the best place I've found for questions, advice, help, etc. Everyone is very nice and helpful, and I think when people are seriously looking, here is a great place to find good homes. I wouldn't worry about the puppies not being good enough. There are lots of people looking for pet-quality Yorkies, as they can't afford the high prices. I have looked at and responded to tons of ads, and I am mostly running into scammers, which is so annoying. Most people don't want to wade through all that when it's easier to come here and find what they're looking for from serious people who love their Yorkies! I wish you all the best!