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Old 07-11-2006, 05:59 AM   #1
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I am new here, I own a Chihuahua and a Pomeranian and have been researching the Yorkies for a while now on the internet and books. I know I want one I have fallen in love with the breed. I have found a few breeders in my area, I have looked at one of the breeders puppies so far. I usually can tell about a puppy when they are small, but the yorkies confuse me a little... like how do I know what the colorings are going to be when they get bigger and I want a smaller one like 4lbs do you go by the parents? I looked at a male and a female the male is 12 weeks and very tiny she said it will be around 4 lbs. if that and the female is a little bigger(you can tell by looking) and she said she would be around 6-7lbs. Also what should their faces look like at this age(by standard I mean)? Her dogs are CKC registered, what is the difference in that and AKC(which is what my other two dogs are)? She gives a 1 yr. health guarantee. I have read that some can get eye problems(cataracts) is this very common? I haven't asked her if she had her breeders geneticly tested yet, if she hasn't should I buy from her? I like the smaller yorkies with the darker gray (not silver) on top as they get older how can i tell what these puppies will be? Also what texture should their fur be? Sorry for all of the questions at once but I figure you all know a lot and could help me. I plan on going to see the other breeder today but one of them has puppies that are only 2 weeks so I don't know if they will let me yet and I don't know if I can tell much about them at that age. I am a member on chihuahua-people.com and get a lot of info for my Chi there, so I am glad I found you guys. She is asking $899 that seems reasonable, is it? I have a female chi and a male pom they are both fixed, I was wanting a female(just so I don't fell wrong putting bows on a male) but it doesn't really matter to me, is there much difference in the sexes in a Yorkie? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't think there is any way to tell for sure what their coats will be like. Looking at the parents should give you a good indication. The silky coated ones puppies aren't as fluffy looking as a cottony coated one, but still hard to tell.

The older ones will be a better guess as far as their adult size, but there are no guarantees. I believe you double their 12 week weight to get a guestimate.

Their faces at 12 weeks should still be mostly black and tan but starting to turn. At 2 weeks they will be black and tan.

There are no guarantees, but a good breeder that has been breeding for a while will have a good idea of size and coat color and texture.

Also there is thread on here titled Then and Now, where people have posted pics of their yorkies when they first got them and what they look like now. You might be interested to see the variety.

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Hi! Welcome to YorkieTalk! Good luck in finding a puppy. Yorkies really are the BEST little dogs.

A breeder cannot guarantee what a yorkie puppy will grow up to look like. But, to get the best idea of what the puppy will look like full grown, you need to look at the parents and grandparents (if possible...obviously sometimes it is not an option to look at the grandparents). If both parents are small, then most likely the puppy will grow up to be small. But, if both parents are small, but one of the grandparents is big, then the puppy could grow up to be big! You can aslo get a estimate of how much the puppy will weigh full-grown by looking at this chart:

*Note: convert your puppy weight to ounces 16oz equals 1 pound
This chart will approximate your puppy's weight at different ages up to 18 months

*Example: 10 week old puppy current weighs 2.2 lbs
conversion 16 X 2 + 2 = 34 ounces
next find puppy's current age to the left then follow along until you find 34;
next follow to the bottom of that column estimated adult weight is 5lbs.
*Remember this is a gauge*. *Most babies will slow weight gain after six months of age*. .

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/growth_chart.doc

Really the only way to tell what a puppy's coloring will be is to look at the parents and grandparents. If you want a yorkie with a darker gray coat instead of light silver, then you should probably get a puppy from parents whose coats are BOTH dark grey. However, there is no possible way for a breeder to guarantee what color a puppy's coat will turn out to be.

The most desired trait for faces is what is called the "babydoll face"...short ears and short muzzle. Again, you should be able to get a good idea of what your puppy's face will look like full grown by looking at the parents. But, you should already be able to tell if the puppy has short ears and a short muzzle.

The only difference in AKC and CKC is that AKC is the American Kennel Club and CKC is the Canadian Kennel Club. They both basically do the same thing...register dogs. Some people prefer one over the other, but I personally don't care as long as my pups are registered.

That is EXCELLENT that she offers a health guarantee. Reputible breeders will guarantee their puppies against birth defects, so this is a good sign that she offers this guarantee.

I am not familiar with yorkies being prone to eye problems such as cataracts. However, this can really happen to ANY dog. All you really can do is make sure both parents are healthy before buying your pup. That is the safest bet against your pup developing any of these problems.

Yorkie puppies will start off with coarse hair...this is called a "puppy coat," and they will lose it as they get older. Some yorkies will have silky hair as adults, which is desired, and some will have cottony coats. Again, the only way to get a good idea of what type of coat your puppy will turn out with is to see what type of coat the parents have. I am assuming you want a silky coat, so make sure BOTH parents of the puppy have a silky coat.

$899 is a very good price for a yorkie. I paid $850 for one of mine and $900 for the other.

There is a lot of debate on whether there is any difference in male and female yorkies. I used to think that males were more affectionate and loving and more eager to please and that females were more independant. BUT, I now have a male and a female who are brother and sister, and now I think that there is no difference in males and females as far as which one is more loving. I think it is all in the way you raise them and has a lot to do with the temperment of the parents. The parents of my two yorkies were very loving and laid back, so that his how their puppies are!

Good luck finding the puppy of your dreams! Please feel free to send me a private message if you have any specific questions for me. I would love to help in any way that I can!
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About their faces do you want a babydoll looking face or a teddy bear looking face? I perfer the baby doll face the are so adorable but so is the teddy bear face . The picture I have on my screen name (avatar) is a babydoll face.

I see the size chart is already posted
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All of you have helped so much, I am so glad I found this site. I love the "baby doll face", does anyone have photos of their yorkies as puppies with the "baby doll face"? I will check out the then & now thread too. If I decide on the male that is tiny now at twelve weeks(he is 2 1/3 lbs. now) should he have many health problems? I called the breeder just now and she said he could get a upper respiratory infection from going to a different climate and the stress of the move, because he is so small, is this true? She said she would send me home with Amoxicillen as a precaution and to give it to him. I love SSHAW's Dennis, is he a silky coat and what is his adult weight? I just don't know if I should go with the female who is 2 1/2 lbs.at 12 weeks or the boy who is 2 1/3 lbs. at 12 weeks and 3 days. I wnat a small one but not so small that it has a lot of health issues. The boy is going to be a silky coat and the girl she said would be a fuller coat(I guess that means soft).
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All of you have helped so much, I am so glad I found this site. I love the "baby doll face", does anyone have photos of their yorkies as puppies with the "baby doll face"? I will check out the then & now thread too. If I decide on the male that is tiny now at twelve weeks(he is 2 1/3 lbs. now) should he have many health problems? I called the breeder just now and she said he could get a upper respiratory infection from going to a different climate and the stress of the move, because he is so small, is this true? She said she would send me home with Amoxicillen as a precaution and to give it to him. I love SSHAW's Dennis, is he a silky coat and what is his adult weight? I just don't know if I should go with the female who is 2 1/2 lbs.at 12 weeks or the boy who is 2 1/3 lbs. at 12 weeks and 3 days. I wnat a small one but not so small that it has a lot of health issues. The boy is going to be a silky coat and the girl she said would be a fuller coat(I guess that means soft).
Even though my 2 are brother and sister, Hobbs has more of a teddy bear face and Hootie has more of a baby doll face. I attached pics of both as puppies (8 weeks) so you can get an idea. Hobbs is in the first pics with the teddy bear face, and Hootie is the 2nd pic with the babydall face.

It is common for yorkie puppies to get a little "cold" when they are first brought to their new homes. Both of mine got a "cold" and had to be on Amoxicillen. Your breeder sounds like an EXCELLENT breeder if she is already warning you about this and giving you antibiotics. The reason they get a "cold" is bc their bodies have to get used to your house and your air conditioner and such. It is nothing to be alarmed about, but make sure you take good care of the puppy if it does get a "cold" bc you don't want it to turn into pneumonia. Just give it the antibiotics and it should be fine!

If they are brother and sister, then they should both have equal risk of developing health problems assuming they are both healthy now. There is not too much difference in their size now, so I would suggest going to visit them and getting a feel for their personality. You will know after you play with them which one you like based on their personalities.

The coat really depends on what you prefer. The silky coats will not get as full, but the full coats are often harder to manage if you don't take care of it. There is also this stuff called "Cowboy Magic" that works wonders on cottony coats. So if you want the one with the full coat, don't not get it just bc of the coat.

Good Luck! Let us know what you decide to do!
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All of you have helped so much, I am so glad I found this site. I love the "baby doll face", does anyone have photos of their yorkies as puppies with the "baby doll face"? I will check out the then & now thread too. If I decide on the male that is tiny now at twelve weeks(he is 2 1/3 lbs. now) should he have many health problems? I called the breeder just now and she said he could get a upper respiratory infection from going to a different climate and the stress of the move, because he is so small, is this true? She said she would send me home with Amoxicillen as a precaution and to give it to him. I love SSHAW's Dennis, is he a silky coat and what is his adult weight? I just don't know if I should go with the female who is 2 1/2 lbs.at 12 weeks or the boy who is 2 1/3 lbs. at 12 weeks and 3 days. I wnat a small one but not so small that it has a lot of health issues. The boy is going to be a silky coat and the girl she said would be a fuller coat(I guess that means soft).
Here is Nemo at 11 wks. old he is a babydoll face. Oh, and yes they can get upper respitory infection, I had one that had it before. Where are you getting your puppy from??
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Is that Nemo in your avatar pic? I am looking at two from a breeder here in my town.
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I went back to the breeder and she let me take some pictures of the pups, I hope these work. The first two are the small male he is 12 weeks and 3 days and weighs 2.5 lbs. The next two are the girl she is 12 weeks and weighs about 3lbs. Does either one look like the baby doll face and the coloring that will stay darker gray as an adult?
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Is that Nemo in your avatar pic? I am looking at two from a breeder here in my town.
No the one in my avatar is Candy, thats my other baby. I didn't have no pictures of her when she was a puppy to send so I sent the one of Nemo.
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I went back to the breeder and she let me take some pictures of the pups, I hope these work. The first two are the small male he is 12 weeks and 3 days and weighs 2.5 lbs. The next two are the girl she is 12 weeks and weighs about 3lbs. Does either one look like the baby doll face and the coloring that will stay darker gray as an adult?
They are both PRECIOUS! You should just go visit them and see which one's personality you like best.
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I went back to the breeder and she let me take some pictures of the pups, I hope these work. The first two are the small male he is 12 weeks and 3 days and weighs 2.5 lbs. The next two are the girl she is 12 weeks and weighs about 3lbs. Does either one look like the baby doll face and the coloring that will stay darker gray as an adult?
They don't look like a babydoll face to me, but then I'm no expert. And the coloring looks like it will be lighter because you said they are 12 weeks and they are already showing gray. I'v learned the longer they stay darker as puppies the most likely they will not be too light of gray as adults, but once again I'm no expert. But, if I were you I would keep looking just to make sure it's the one you want because buying a yorkie is a life time commitment and you should have what you want.
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The only difference in AKC and CKC is that AKC is the American Kennel Club and CKC is the Canadian Kennel Club. They both basically do the same thing...register dogs. Some people prefer one over the other, but I personally don't care as long as my pups are registered.
The CKC can also stand for the Continental Kennel Club, which has broader standards than the AKC. Typically the AKC standards are stricter, and that is what I prefer. I have also heard some pretty nasty things about other registries, but I won't voice them here. Everyone has a different opinion. And if you're not breeding, it really doesn't matter too much.
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I went back to the breeder and she let me take some pictures of the pups, I hope these work. The first two are the small male he is 12 weeks and 3 days and weighs 2.5 lbs. The next two are the girl she is 12 weeks and weighs about 3lbs. Does either one look like the baby doll face and the coloring that will stay darker gray as an adult?

The little boy might be baby doll faced. But the little girl is definitely not. IMO

Here are pictures of Ollie and Chachi. Ollie is first with a baby doll face. Chachi has the teddy bear. See the difference in their noses?
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I can see the difference Chachi has a longer snout. I have been emailing Linda from garlinyorkies she has beautiful pups and she lives with in 4 hours of me, so I am waiting on her to contact me back. I am afraid the breeder here doesn't have what I really want, so I am still looking. I agree though the girl I looked at is definately not a baby doll face, but not sure about the boy maybe because of the view of the photo. I just love the pups with the little button noses. I also like the colors on Linda's Sassy and Dinky.
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