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Old 03-25-2021, 01:37 PM   #1
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Well Ollie just had his yearly check up a few days ago and his blood work was perfect but sadly he does have LP. He just turned 3 in January and I'm wondering if I should start him on a joint supplement. He does not act like it bothers him and is probably my fastest of the 4. He isn't overweight or anything so I know to keep him that way. He does have insurance so if something does happen and he needs surgery at some point I have that luckily because I do know that LP puts more strain on their CCLs. I hope he lives his life with no problems though. He is the 3rd out of 4 to get their check up and blood work this year and the 3rd to be perfect so hopefully next month when Penny gets hers she will also have perfect blood work. I'm just super bummed about the LP.
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I'm glad you mentioned about LP. When Bella had her annual check up last summer (2 yrs old), I learned she had early signs of LP. The vet told me this or I wouldn't have known and I became concerned. However she walks well and runs fast in the field when chasing after squirrels on the leash. We do try to discourage her from running up the house stairs, which she always frequently did before on her own. We bought a wooden dog gate and put it in front of the stairs. I hoped it would help minimize her joints from getting worse by running upstairs. We only needed to use the gate for about 2 months and removed it. Now she knows it's forbidden to go up on her own. She waits for us and we carry her upstairs when we go up. I'm hoping to stop her from getting more serious symptoms with LP and not have to do surgery as she gets older since I know she has a possible risk.

Our vet prescribed Joint Gold Glucosamine powder by UBAVET as a preventative and maintenance. It promotes optimal growth and development of the musculo-skeletal system joints, helps support bone health and function of joints, supports renal and cardiovascular functions. Also helps the maintenance of a healthy skin and coat. The combination of all the ingredients provides the necessary benefits to help maintain joint mobility. Sorry I'm not advertising this, I'm just reading the label on the back. It's sold in Canada. But I think you can get any kind of Glucosamine powder prescribed by your vet to maintain joint mobility.

I haven't started it on her as yet but I should soon. Right now she's turned into a very picky eater and only eats 1 or 2 x a day and usually it's late at night when she eats. I use to free feed her and she didn't eat much then. I have to figure out when to add the powder and it's frustrating because I don't know when she will eat or not, sigh. Just sharing.
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When I first got Piper (about 3 yrs), vet thought she might need surgery, but I just kept walking her all over the place and all is fine. She sometimes gets a bit stiff when waking after walking, but that clears up after she starts moving again. I've got a good feeling that all will be well with your little guy!
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When we got our sweet boy, Beauregarde the poodle, we took him for a thorough vet check within 24 hours. Our vet declared him unfit for sale due to the serious nature of his LP. We found out that he had, in fact, been returned by two other families due to this condition. Since we fell in love with him at first sight, we negotiated an extended health guarantee, and decided to keep him. We were mindful and never let him jump on/off of furniture, etc., and he lived until 13 without needing surgery. My little Gus started showing signs of problems at about 2 years, and we are watching him...now that I knew the early signs, I pointed out during a vet visit how loose his joints feel when I bathe him and the vet confirmed. As a puppy he was my wild child, and jumped from one couch to the other before I could deter him...now, at five, we have trained him to let us pick him up.

I am sorry that Ollie is facing this challenge, but know that he will have a long, happy life with a Mommy who will be there to provide any care that he needs along the way!

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Well Ollie just had his yearly check up a few days ago and his blood work was perfect but sadly he does have LP. He just turned 3 in January and I'm wondering if I should start him on a joint supplement. He does not act like it bothers him and is probably my fastest of the 4. He isn't overweight or anything so I know to keep him that way. He does have insurance so if something does happen and he needs surgery at some point I have that luckily because I do know that LP puts more strain on their CCLs. I hope he lives his life with no problems though. He is the 3rd out of 4 to get their check up and blood work this year and the 3rd to be perfect so hopefully next month when Penny gets hers she will also have perfect blood work. I'm just super bummed about the LP.
Well you could look at it this way. It's better to find out now and try to minimize the risk of further degradation of the joint. My Razzle had LP and I elected to treat it holistically. That thing I got a knee brace reduced his running particularly on any kind of wet grass. Also as you know we do a lot of swimming in the summertime as well as dock jumping. I do let him go up and down only five stairs. My house is all stairs with two levels having 15 stairs each. If you tell me and measure his leg I will know if my brace would fit for your dog and would be happy to parcel post it to you for individual adjustment and you learning how to take it on take it off etc.
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I'm glad you mentioned about LP. When Bella had her annual check up last summer (2 yrs old), I learned she had early signs of LP. The vet told me this or I wouldn't have known and I became concerned. However she walks well and runs fast in the field when chasing after squirrels on the leash. We do try to discourage her from running up the house stairs, which she always frequently did before on her own. We bought a wooden dog gate and put it in front of the stairs. I hoped it would help minimize her joints from getting worse by running upstairs. We only needed to use the gate for about 2 months and removed it. Now she knows it's forbidden to go up on her own. She waits for us and we carry her upstairs when we go up. I'm hoping to stop her from getting more serious symptoms with LP and not have to do surgery as she gets older since I know she has a possible risk.

Our vet prescribed Joint Gold Glucosamine powder by UBAVET as a preventative and maintenance. It promotes optimal growth and development of the musculo-skeletal system joints, helps support bone health and function of joints, supports renal and cardiovascular functions. Also helps the maintenance of a healthy skin and coat. The combination of all the ingredients provides the necessary benefits to help maintain joint mobility. Sorry I'm not advertising this, I'm just reading the label on the back. It's sold in Canada. But I think you can get any kind of Glucosamine powder prescribed by your vet to maintain joint mobility.

I haven't started it on her as yet but I should soon. Right now she's turned into a very picky eater and only eats 1 or 2 x a day and usually it's late at night when she eats. I use to free feed her and she didn't eat much then. I have to figure out when to add the powder and it's frustrating because I don't know when she will eat or not, sigh. Just sharing.
I thought glucosamine should be given with chondrotin? Just asking
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MOST yorkies have LP. I personally don't give it much thought. I don't give supplements because I have never seen any improvement from them. They certainly will not stop the improper movement of the knee that causes the wear and tear on the ligament. If you have a young dog, sometimes surgery is advised but once they are older it is not recommended because you can repair that knee and a few months later end up with a torn ligament anyway. Hard on the dog and hard on the pocketbook. I have a yorkie who will be 15 in June and he has had LP forever....I honestly thought he would have torn a ligament long ago because his knees were so loose. My Cookie tore hers years ago and it was totally unexpected. We don't have a crystal ball and I just choose to focus on positive....

All yorkies and other small dogs should be prevented from jumping up and off of furniture. Best to start them out with stairs and ramps from the beginning. There are other risks from jumping off of furniture such as fractures.

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If you tell me and measure his leg I will know if my brace would fit for your dog and would be happy to parcel post it to you for individual adjustment and you learning how to take it on take it off etc.
Well you know how to reach me here if you want to talk on the phone I can private message you my phone number


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If you tell me and measure his leg I will know if my brace would fit for your dog and would be happy to parcel post it to you for individual adjustment and you learning how to take it on take it off etc.
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Just wondering why a brace?
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Stabilization. While you work on muscle building. Also if I had to take him out in wet weather it can also help.
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Stabilization. While you work on muscle building. Also if I had to take him out in wet weather it can also help.


I honestly have never heard of that for LP. My ortho actually advised against one for a pup with a torn CCL who could not have surgery due to medical issues. He said
they often don't fit correctly and cause other issues.
Luxating patellas are SO common and I have never seen muscle wasting in a pup with it unless it was one who was really bad and needed surgery.
That's great if it worked for you.
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Thanks everyone. Luckily most of our house is one floor and there is no need for him to go up the steps which we have gated of anyway because Dixie has learned how to climb them and they are slippery wood so don't want that happening. My dad built a ramp on our deck when we moved here for Callie and the dogs prefer to use that to the steps so that's good too. I know I'm like super jaded because of how bad Callie's were so I was freaking out. The biggest issues with a joint supplement is he is soooooo picky and is hard enough to get heartgard and nexgard in him and a powder would never work because he picks at food and doesn't eat a lot at one time so we may just wait and see how things go. Him being food picking a not overeating is probably good in this case so he wont get overweight and he is extremely active. I'm sure I will be at the vet again soon and can talk to her more about it because my mom had taken the call when I was tied up with the puppy. Callie's orthopedic surgeon recommended Dosaquin at the time but that was many years ago and I doubt he will take it. Again thanks everyone
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I thought glucosamine should be given with chondrotin? Just asking
It does include Chrondroitin in the Active ingredients: I've copied the Description and information from the back of the jar here:

JOINT GOLD Powder promotes optimal growth and development of the musculoskeletal system. With Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Green Lipped Mussels and Abalone.
Active Ingredients
Per 5g (1 scoop): Glucosamine HCl 500 mg, Green Lipped Mussels 50 mg, Chondroitin Sulphate 30 mg, MSM 150 mg, Abalone 20 mg, Vitamin C 5 mg

A neighbour nearby told me about this supplement I didn't know this before. She purchased a powder formula for joint mobility from her vet for her 10 year old dog and it helped a lot. I don't know the name she used or how long she used it for. She suggested I inquire with my vet. When I saw her again, she mentioned that she saw a similar joint mobility at Pet Smart and said it was cheaper than the vet to buy so she bought from Pet Smart.

I prefer using what my vet prescribes. To each his own, right. Hope this helps.

https://ubavet.com/product/joint-gold/?compare=701
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Thanks everyone. Luckily most of our house is one floor and there is no need for him to go up the steps which we have gated of anyway because Dixie has learned how to climb them and they are slippery wood so don't want that happening. My dad built a ramp on our deck when we moved here for Callie and the dogs prefer to use that to the steps so that's good too. I know I'm like super jaded because of how bad Callie's were so I was freaking out. The biggest issues with a joint supplement is he is soooooo picky and is hard enough to get heartgard and nexgard in him and a powder would never work because he picks at food and doesn't eat a lot at one time so we may just wait and see how things go. Him being food picking a not overeating is probably good in this case so he wont get overweight and he is extremely active. I'm sure I will be at the vet again soon and can talk to her more about it because my mom had taken the call when I was tied up with the puppy. Callie's orthopedic surgeon recommended Dosaquin at the time but that was many years ago and I doubt he will take it. Again thanks everyone
I know what you mean about how hard it's to get a picky dog to eat her meal, let alone add a new supplement powder on it. It's part of the reason why I haven't started using it yet. My feeling is that she will probably just smell it in her kibbles and walk away from eating anything at all. I think I will start with a few sprinkles at a time and see how it goes.
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