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Old 06-11-2018, 04:22 PM   #1
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I thought I would share this article. I know it can be controversial but I am a huge fan of outlawing tail docking or at least changing the standard. I do however support dew claw removal I have had many many many issues with dew claws over the year. https://drjeandoddspethealthresource...s#.Wx8RvoopCfB
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If I am lucky enough to have another yorkie in my life I will insist that the tail is NOT docked. There is ZERO reason to subject the dog to such pain
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If I am lucky enough to have another yorkie in my life I will insist that the tail is NOT docked. There is ZERO reason to subject the dog to such pain
That’s a great idea if you are on a waiting like list for a breeder. I normally end up with the pups no one wants so all but Joey have docked tails. I absolutely love Joeys full tail it gives him so much personality.
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You know me -- I do not support amputating body parts of dogs in any way! Tail docking is barbaric and unnecessary!
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You know me -- I do not support amputating body parts of dogs in any way! Tail docking is barbaric and unnecessary!


Would someone let the boards of YTCA and AKC know their slips are showing?
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See "State Laws Concerning Elective Surgical Procedures," updated 2018, AVMA.

"Canine Tail Docking FAQ," n.d., AVMA.
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There is a petition online, but it seems to lump dewclaw removal in the same camp as tail docking and ear cropping.

Like Lovetodream88, I don't put dew claw removal in the same camp as tail docking/ear cropping

Just shy of 19,000 have signed the petition (not many).

"Ban Tail Docking, Ear Cropping, Dewclaw Removal as Dog Breed Standards. Quit Promoting Animal Abuse"
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There is a petition online, but it seems to lump dewclaw removal in the same camp as tail docking and ear cropping.

Like Lovetodream88, I don't put dew claw removal in the same camp as tail docking/ear cropping

Just shy of 19,000 have signed the petition (not many).

"Ban Tail Docking, Ear Cropping, Dewclaw Removal as Dog Breed Standards. Quit Promoting Animal Abuse"
I just wonder if online petitions really do anything or not. I feel like dew claw removal really does keep dogs from serious injury. Callie once ripped hers off and the nerve and vein was all right there hanging out. Some how we got lucky and there was no blood but I still had to wrap it and get her to the vet where they had to sedate her to cut it back and cauterize it. I also grew up with a beagle that had terrible dew claw issues constantly. I have been lucky so far with Joey. Penny and Ollie don’t have any but I think one of Penny’s was done wrong it’s weird.
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I just wonder if online petitions really do anything or not. I feel like dew claw removal really does keep dogs from serious injury. Callie once ripped hers off and the nerve and vein was all right there hanging out. Some how we got lucky and there was no blood but I still had to wrap it and get her to the vet where they had to sedate her to cut it back and cauterize it. I also grew up with a beagle that had terrible dew claw issues constantly. I have been lucky so far with Joey. Penny and Ollie don’t have any but I think one of Penny’s was done wrong it’s weird.
I forgot to ask if Penny's vet had a chance to see the strange dew claw site--did it turn out that not all of the joints were removed?
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I forgot to ask if Penny's vet had a chance to see the strange dew claw site--did it turn out that not all of the joints were removed?
I completely forgot to ask her it was a long night before and I don’t think my brain had enough sleep to function. It’s not bothering her but hopefully I can remember next time I go in.
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I think the problem with outright banning is that it's hard to ban one thing and not the other. Many will argue that tail docking is "to prevent injury" just as you believe removing dew claws is.

I'm a huge fan of leaving things au natural. I don't believe most Yorkies are working animals anymore, but pets, so tail docking really seems useless and outdated. I love a full tail!

But, I also hesitate to insist on banning things in regards to our dogs as I feel it is a fine line of what some people find acceptable and what others don't.
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I think the problem with outright banning is that it's hard to ban one thing and not the other. Many will argue that tail docking is "to prevent injury" just as you believe removing dew claws is.

I'm a huge fan of leaving things au natural. I don't believe most Yorkies are working animals anymore, but pets, so tail docking really seems useless and outdated. I love a full tail!

But, I also hesitate to insist on banning things in regards to our dogs as I feel it is a fine line of what some people find acceptable and what others don't.
The article talks about how injures are not that common with tails. I am not sure but I think dew claws might be a higher instances of injury. One issue with the fact the breeders sometimes do this on their own is lots of crappy breeders mess up too. I think one fun thing about Jackson and Joey are their tails.
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Yorkies with tails are just too darn cute! And, if those tails have a language all their own.
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The article talks about how injures are not that common with tails. I am not sure but I think dew claws might be a higher instances of injury. One issue with the fact the breeders sometimes do this on their own is lots of crappy breeders mess up too. I think one fun thing about Jackson and Joey are their tails.
Oh yeah I agree that I've never been one to believe there are THAT many injuries with tails. Does it happen? Yes. But dogs can break legs, toes, etc, we don't chop them off as a "preventative". That's just silly.

I just wish people would admit it's for cosmetic reasons. Show dogs for example do not have a high chance of winning in the ring in the US if they have a full tail. It's allowed but often judges won't choose them as the best of breed etc. It's all politics.

I LOVE how Jackson uses his tail to swim! He uses it as a propeller! Lola, my cockapoo, has a docked tail and she always starts "sinking" more in her butt area and I think it's from her lack of a tail.
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Oh yeah I agree that I've never been one to believe there are THAT many injuries with tails. Does it happen? Yes. But dogs can break legs, toes, etc, we don't chop them off as a "preventative". That's just silly.

I just wish people would admit it's for cosmetic reasons. Show dogs for example do not have a high chance of winning in the ring in the US if they have a full tail. It's allowed but often judges won't choose them as the best of breed etc. It's all politics.

I LOVE how Jackson uses his tail to swim! He uses it as a propeller! Lola, my cockapoo, has a docked tail and she always starts "sinking" more in her butt area and I think it's from her lack of a tail.
Joey uses his like that too lol
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