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Old 06-01-2017, 02:44 PM   #1
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Hey guys, first dilemma....


I've been avoiding taking the dog out in the yard because the neighbor always has their dog out-- all the time... Which means that their dog barks anytime they see mine, and it doesn't help the situation that my dog barks at dogs too...

It's not the dogs fault, it's the fact that we're trying to keep the noise level down... I mean I am tempted to just stay there with the dog and let her bark to her hearts content so the neighbors get it that our dog needs to go out at some point to play outside... Their dog, and our dogs aren't saints... She only barks because their dog is relatively a lot larger (it's a golden retriever).


The solution I am asking for is a way to be able to take my dogs out without them being driven crazy by the other dogs barking and the other dogs barking be driven crazy by ours.


Is there something that could hide the scent of other dogs, and their presence? I was thinking of putting a dog repellent by our side of the fence so neither dog try to get near the fence.

The fence isn't see through, it's wooden. I have her leashed when I take her to the yard (with a retractable leash) but she just runs to there.


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on another note-- is there something I can do about the poison ivy itch on me that wont hurt the dog? She constantly licks me, my legs, etc... I usually wear shorts as its hot in this house... It's funny because even the medicines that's not really dog friendly still dont work that well... I just want to get rid of it or ease the itching without being afraid itll affect the dog..
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Hey guys, first dilemma....


I've been avoiding taking the dog out in the yard because the neighbor always has their dog out-- all the time... Which means that their dog barks anytime they see mine, and it doesn't help the situation that my dog barks at dogs too...

It's not the dogs fault, it's the fact that we're trying to keep the noise level down... I mean I am tempted to just stay there with the dog and let her bark to her hearts content so the neighbors get it that our dog needs to go out at some point to play outside... Their dog, and our dogs aren't saints... She only barks because their dog is relatively a lot larger (it's a golden retriever).


The solution I am asking for is a way to be able to take my dogs out without them being driven crazy by the other dogs barking and the other dogs barking be driven crazy by ours.


Is there something that could hide the scent of other dogs, and their presence? I was thinking of putting a dog repellent by our side of the fence so neither dog try to get near the fence.

The fence isn't see through, it's wooden. I have her leashed when I take her to the yard (with a retractable leash) but she just runs to there.


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on another note-- is there something I can do about the poison ivy itch on me that wont hurt the dog? She constantly licks me, my legs, etc... I usually wear shorts as its hot in this house... It's funny because even the medicines that's not really dog friendly still dont work that well... I just want to get rid of it or ease the itching without being afraid itll affect the dog..

I know what it's like to be the owner with the dog that barks incessantly! It's a sad, frustrating situation either way. Our sheltie (many years ago) was a barker. Shock collars were out of the question. Distractors lost their benefit in about 10 minutes. We tried a collar that emitted a smell instead of shock and the only effect it had was on us. Exercise was just a warm-up for the main event. It was awful. And to make it worse we had aggressive neighbors who would torment the dog.


Now we are on the other end. One of the tormenting neighbors now has a barker of their own! Our dog is not a natural barker but she would woof under her breath a couple of times and when she does that she loses the privilege of being out with us. In she goes. No scolding. Nothing. Right to her enclosure. And we go right back out to "play." We wait a few minutes and let her try it again. It only took a few times to teach her that if she wanted to be out she couldn't do that. We also used commands to help keep her busy and working for us so she got (and gets) a lot of praise for being otherwise involved.
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Forgot to add this.................We have a friend who had a neighbor dog that barked. She got permission to have treats for the dog and once she befriended the barking offender, the dog stopped barking when she went out. She got permission from the owner first.
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I know what it's like to be the owner with the dog that barks incessantly! It's a sad, frustrating situation either way. Our sheltie (many years ago) was a barker. Shock collars were out of the question. Distractors lost their benefit in about 10 minutes. We tried a collar that emitted a smell instead of shock and the only effect it had was on us. Exercise was just a warm-up for the main event. It was awful. And to make it worse we had aggressive neighbors who would torment the dog.


Now we are on the other end. One of the tormenting neighbors now has a barker of their own! Our dog is not a natural barker but she would woof under her breath a couple of times and when she does that she loses the privilege of being out with us. In she goes. No scolding. Nothing. Right to her enclosure. And we go right back out to "play." We wait a few minutes and let her try it again. It only took a few times to teach her that if she wanted to be out she couldn't do that. We also used commands to help keep her busy and working for us so she got (and gets) a lot of praise for being otherwise involved.
Yeah they don't seem to be soo bad that they torment the dogs they seem like nice old people... just not very practical when it comes to certain things... To be honest, if it goes on-- I'll just let her stay there and let them bark it out and if the neighbor doesn't like it-- he's welcomed to bring his dog inside.

I can't just keep the dog indoors all the time. I haven't been able to walk her much because I haven't gotten used to the route in the new neighborhood. We instead take it out with us whenever we run errands (obviously not to a grocery store or inside-- I just walk her on the parking lots, or take time after the runs and go to a park and walk with her there).


I have bad sense of directions sometimes...

Still going to find a way to deal with it.
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Forgot to add this.................We have a friend who had a neighbor dog that barked. She got permission to have treats for the dog and once she befriended the barking offender, the dog stopped barking when she went out. She got permission from the owner first.
Mmmm I'd rather avoid getting close to neighbors. Learned that long time ago that getting too close could potentially sour what is already neutral. Neutrality is a very fragile thing.
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I would get one of these and use it in your backyard for the barking...

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Being friendly with your neighbors is actually a good thing because then you keep an eye out for each other.
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Yeah they don't seem to be soo bad that they torment the dogs they seem like nice old people... just not very practical when it comes to certain things... To be honest, if it goes on-- I'll just let her stay there and let them bark it out and if the neighbor doesn't like it-- he's welcomed to bring his dog inside.

I can't just keep the dog indoors all the time. I haven't been able to walk her much because I haven't gotten used to the route in the new neighborhood. We instead take it out with us whenever we run errands (obviously not to a grocery store or inside-- I just walk her on the parking lots, or take time after the runs and go to a park and walk with her there).


I have bad sense of directions sometimes...

Still going to find a way to deal with it.
Make sure in the warmer months you walk her on grass because the pavement can burn her paws.
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Even with our neighbors who did not like our barker, we have worked hard and for 24 years have had an amicable relationship. All of our families - including pets - go through ages and stages. Now that we are older, even while the barker they inherited from a deceased parent is yapping away, we share our news over the fence. And they love our little pup and laugh at her antics.
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on another note-- is there something I can do about the poison ivy itch on me that wont hurt the dog? She constantly licks me, my legs, etc... I usually wear shorts as its hot in this house... It's funny because even the medicines that's not really dog friendly still dont work that well... I just want to get rid of it or ease the itching without being afraid itll affect the dog..
About the poison ivy, just about any lotion or cream you purchase over-the-counter to treat a poison ivy rash (calamine lotion, hydrocortisone cream, etc.) is going to be toxic if the dog licks it. If the itching is bad, you might contact your physician to see if there are any medication you can take internally to relieve the itching. An obvious choice would be benadryl, but there are others as well. Here is a link to other suggestions: Poison Ivy, Oak, or Sumac: Relieving the Itch-Topic Overview
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About the poison ivy, just about any lotion or cream you purchase over-the-counter to treat a poison ivy rash (calamine lotion, hydrocortisone cream, etc.) is going to be toxic if the dog licks it. If the itching is bad, you might contact your physician to see if there are any medication you can take internally to relieve the itching. An obvious choice would be benadryl, but there are others as well. Here is a link to other suggestions: Poison Ivy, Oak, or Sumac: Relieving the Itch-Topic Overview


Well the meme below would summarize the situation of the ivy of hate.


Literary, it's everywhere a few days of not going out... and it's all over the eastern fence, and the western fence. Parts of it on the southern fence. It's also near the shaded areas, near the small trees, near where the gross old pool was(they removed the pool and that little pos sprouted up within what feels like a week or two.

In a few days the thing has crept up in size and we simply cannot just burn it because burning it is the dumbest thing we could possibly do. If I could light it on fire with gasoline from a distance and if it got so burnt none of it is escaping and forming a film on stuff then I would.

I admit I am an ignoramous when it comes to its variants. So I can't seem to tell which is which-- except the really painstakingly obvious ones...

Seriously it's one of my nightmares. Waking up covered head to toe in pus, and severe rashes that if I scratch them it'll get infected-- but if i dont ill feel torture.

I am nagging to see if we can find some remedy to kill it all. I want no trace of it behind. Nothing. If I could completely rip out every plant (grass included) from the yards, sterilize the soil and kill anything left over and then start all over again with fresh seed packets-- I would prefer doing that.

My fear is that it's going to spread to my face and I am going to spend a night in that soul sucking place called the E.R.--- again.


Thing is the rash is spreading and getting a bit worse-- but it worsens over days not like the next day its instantly bad. I am to the point I kind of dont even care about the well water. I just want it gone. I mean I do care about the water, but it just sucks dealing with it.
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I understand what you mean about keeping a good relationship with neighbors-- it's a symbiotic thing (mutual benefit).. I am just not really much the best talker, I can be rather awkward and sometimes I just don't get certain things. Which in the end tends to annoy some people. I usually avoid being overly social with people from the history I've had with people. While I am in one way rather complex, in another way I am rather straight laced which also sets a lot of people off. I have very strong moral values, and from what it seems sometimes people say they have good moral values but in reality "They have good moral values-- when it benefits or doesn't interfere with them". There's plenty of other stuff...

I sort of chose to be alone on purpose because quite frankly I can't always tell when someone is being themselves, or if they're just putting on some kind of mask which reveals something horrible and possibly lead to physically dangerous situations- to which I want no part of. I avoid issues, because I don't want to cause a burden on those around me. I don't want my problems to be thrown on to their laps.

There's plenty of people that are good out there, and I believe that the majority of people probably are good or have some goodness in them. But the fact remains that I can't easily tell who is okay and who is not okay that easily.

I guess I was told a few times by people I don't even remember now when I was young that everything can go alright most of the times, but it only takes that 1% of the time for you to get really messed up. Or something along those lines. Person who told me that was a worrywort.

Which translates into why I even wanted a dog in the first place, while I am not 100% alone in human contact (outside of business, family, etc) as I have a very shallow pool of people I can call friends or acquaintances...

Having a dog very much loosens up the tension in me and calms me down a lot. For some reason I also believed that having a dog could give me even an opportunities to meet new people and potentially make more friends, but in reality deep down I just wanted a dog to ease the loneliness, and my emotions.

I feel like I should get to know the neighbor more but anytime I try I freeze up and/or space out. Mostly because of the past history with the last neighbors whom I didnt even communicate with and where rather... well.. not good.

Sorry for the rant but I figured that whole thing would explain it at some point.


Tl;dr : while I want to socialize with the neighbor they're way older than I am and while they're old enough to be my grandparents-- I feel nervous whenever I tried to talk to them. The most I got out of myself was a Hi/Hello, and a wave.

I quickly go in once their dog starts barking and mine responds (or vice versa)

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In response to the second message about walking on the grass- I just went with my brother on his car to check out the neighborhood. It's actually pretty cozy, we're 5minutes from the lake (did not know that) for an odd reason I thought the lake would be farther and this would be more of a suburban jungle. It's more country than suburbs.
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Even with our neighbors who did not like our barker, we have worked hard and for 24 years have had an amicable relationship. All of our families - including pets - go through ages and stages. Now that we are older, even while the barker they inherited from a deceased parent is yapping away, we share our news over the fence. And they love our little pup and laugh at her antics.
I see what you mean. It's good to keep in contact. Tight community is a safe community or something like that.
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Well the meme below would summarize the situation of the ivy of hate.


Literary, it's everywhere a few days of not going out... and it's all over the eastern fence, and the western fence. Parts of it on the southern fence. It's also near the shaded areas, near the small trees, near where the gross old pool was(they removed the pool and that little pos sprouted up within what feels like a week or two.

In a few days the thing has crept up in size and we simply cannot just burn it because burning it is the dumbest thing we could possibly do. If I could light it on fire with gasoline from a distance and if it got so burnt none of it is escaping and forming a film on stuff then I would.

I admit I am an ignoramous when it comes to its variants. So I can't seem to tell which is which-- except the really painstakingly obvious ones...

Seriously it's one of my nightmares. Waking up covered head to toe in pus, and severe rashes that if I scratch them it'll get infected-- but if i dont ill feel torture.

I am nagging to see if we can find some remedy to kill it all. I want no trace of it behind. Nothing. If I could completely rip out every plant (grass included) from the yards, sterilize the soil and kill anything left over and then start all over again with fresh seed packets-- I would prefer doing that.

My fear is that it's going to spread to my face and I am going to spend a night in that soul sucking place called the E.R.--- again.


Thing is the rash is spreading and getting a bit worse-- but it worsens over days not like the next day its instantly bad. I am to the point I kind of dont even care about the well water. I just want it gone. I mean I do care about the water, but it just sucks dealing with it.
Post more photos of the poison ivy patches so we can help you ID the offending plants. Once you've ID'd them with certainty, you can use the Roundup poison ivy killer to surgically destroy the offenders without poisoning the well water. If I lived close by, I'd help you, but alas I live halfway across the country.
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Post more photos of the poison ivy patches so we can help you ID the offending plants. Once you've ID'd them with certainty, you can use the Roundup poison ivy killer to surgically destroy the offenders without poisoning the well water. If I lived close by, I'd help you, but alas I live halfway across the country.

Okay, I shall take photos tomorrow. I'll muster the courage of going to this poison ivy infested area and taking photos.

The bad news is while I do have long pants they're all for going out to do stuff- not yard work....

Also how would I surgically destroy them without so much as touching the plant or poisoning the well water? We don't know exactly how it works, or where its at, we just know to be careful about toxins and stuff... If we could use something that will kill the poison ivy with certainty without remaining there forever and neutralizing the urisohl would be nice too...

I feel bad too because I found out that the neighborhood is really small and that there's essentially no sidewalks... I was told to just walk by the side of the road... but with a dog I feel that's not 100% safe.

So for me to let it out and run and play-- the first thing I have to be able to do is to get rid of anything that will cause me rashes...

Are there any other plants that could cause the same reaction as poison ivy? It's been kinda itchy but not like the previous ones where Id be tearing at my arms and legs with whatever I can find to scratch with...

Is there anyway to prevent future growth of them? Like is there a way to keep them out completely out of the yard? I wish there was a bacteria that specifically attacked poison ivy, oak, etc... I was thinking of finding a ton of aphids and throwing them on the plants but I doubt they'd actually go for it.


How do you get rid of the oils from the clothes? Do you have to bleach the clothes ? are they unusable after? What about shoes- specially suede shoes? I havent gotten them on those yet. But I have a pair given to me by my father that I've treasured for a long time. It was a birthday gift from half a decade ago...


Forgot to add, any other house plants, or anything that might be in the property that causes these blisters and itchiness?
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