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Old 01-10-2006, 04:36 PM   #31
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Welcome to YT. I'd love to see a picture of Lola!
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Hi guys, wow I am so glad there is really someone out there! I don't want anyone to think that we don't love Lola, no matter how much she weighs! I am just going to be upset if someone took advantage of us! It was a lot of money to spend and if people are lying to pet lovers just to make money, that is what will upset me. We are so happy to have her. i am also concerned that I just have a vet that needs to know more about toy dogs, in which case I will find a new vet, fast!!! Thank you so much for all of your input! I will post a picture of Lola, unfortunatly the only digital camera I have is on my phone, so it won't be the best quality. We head back to the vet on monday for her shots so I will let everyone know what the verdict on the weight is. Thanks again!
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My vet was totally thrilled with my dog's weight. He's 17 weeks old and weighs 5 1/4 pounds. He said it is so refreshing to see such a healthy - normal sized little guy. And he went on to read off a list of serious problems he encouters daily with tiny little dogs....He said "It is criminal to breed a Yorkie that weighs less than 5 pounds" adding "People just don't see what I see."

He said that Yorkie breeders aren't the only people who do this. It is being done with a lot of other small breeds as well.

I would hope that your little gets up to at least 5 pounds. He has such a better chance for a long healthy life if he does. So please - don't want or hope for a very tiny little guy!

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PS: I can't believe that your breeder bred two such small little dogs - shame on her!
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Old 01-10-2006, 06:35 PM   #34
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NOPE!!

16 oz is a pound
so if your kid weighs 1 lb 14 oz

you take the 16 oz which equals 1 lb plus the 14oz and add them together

you get 30 oz no way around it!

I dont understand where youre getting the 1.6 or the approx .7 at ...its merely 1 lb 14 oz

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It Depends. All she said was 1.14 which would mean to me one pound and a 14th of a pound. .. LOL.. i think 2 or three others here saw it like me and a few saw it like you . It really depends what is meant by 1.14

I said approximately 18.3 because I was doing quick math in my head but I believe the 18.24 is correct math if she meant 1.14 lbs.
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I cannot for the life of me understand this conversion. can you explain it to me. I am confused. I know I am missing something. I know a pound is 16 ounces. Right? RIGHT? LOL
At my vet's office, the scale that they use reads pounds before the decimal and what is behind the decimal is in decimal form . . . meaning the first place is tenths and the second place is hundredths.

IF the OP's vet's scale is like the two scales at my vet's office, then the .14 would be computed as 14/100ths of a pound or 2.24 ounces.

Anytime a number has a decimal in it, then the proper way to convert is to multiply the portion times 16 (.14 times 16 = 2.24 ounces).

Its the law of math.

But . . . that isn't to say that her vet's scale actually said 1.14. Maybe it reads 1 and a few spaces before the 14.


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Another point . . . if the scale says .14 and that is 14 ounces, then what do you say .5 is? 5 ounces?

How can .5 be less than .14 (5 ounces > 14 ounces)? That doesn't compute!

.5 = 8 ounces
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OH LAWD!!!! LOLOLOL! Call your vet!!! Ask them if she's 18 ounces or 30 ounces out of 1.14 lbs. Ask them what their conversion is...
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Another point . . . if the scale says .14 and that is 14 ounces, then what do you say .5 is? 5 ounces?

How can .5 be less than .14 (5 ounces > 14 ounces)? That doesn't compute!

.5 = 8 ounces
Lisa hon your wrong 1.5lbs would be 16 plus the 5...equals 21
1.8oz equals 1 and 1/2 lbs.

Yorkieangel sorry you are so wrong!!! 14th of a pound is two ounces away from reaching 1 pound! one ounce equals = 0.0625 pounds

ounces are a unit of weight equal to one sixteenth of a pound or 16 drams or 28.349 grams - pounds are a unit of mass equal to 16 ounces
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It Depends. All she said was 1.14 which would mean to me one pound and a 14th of a pound. .. LOL.. i think 2 or three others here saw it like me and a few saw it like you . It really depends what is meant by 1.14

I said approximately 18.3 because I was doing quick math in my head but I believe the 18.24 is correct math if she meant 1.14 lbs.
This is how I viewed it too. This is how my vet weighs them and does the conversion. It is important to get it right obviously because there is a big difference between the two.

If you are concerned about her size at this point I would ask the breeder because, although there is usually no way to guarantee the adult weight of a puppy, most experienced breeders who know their lines well and know what their studs "throw" typically, can reassure you that the pup may be bigger now but his/her growth may taper off at a certain time. My Ava's breeder is a breeder who breeds for the tinies or teacups and she knew that Ava would be bigger as a smell puppy but them taper off and stop growing at a certain point because that is what most of the little ones do from the pairing of her mommy and daddy.

And please do not take offense to everyone telling you there is no such thing as a "teacup". What they are referring to is the AKC classifications and sizes and standards. The AKC classifies ALL yorkies as "toy" and to be in the standard size for the breed they should be 7 lbs of less. The typical lay person and lots of breeders use the term teacup, tiny or mini to describe those dogs that will be less than 5 lbs at full growth (some less than 4 lbs). I take no offense to the word as I consider it to just mean extra small for the breed.
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I did call my breeder today after I saw the vet. She said that since there were only 3 pups in the litter that they got a lot of milk. She said she will taper off. I am asking questions because we bought from her because Lola was supposed to be under 3.5 pounds. If she is 5 or 10 pounds we will love her the same but I don't want to be lied to. Thank you for the info, you guys are great.
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I did call my breeder today after I saw the vet. She said that since there were only 3 pups in the litter that they got a lot of milk. She said she will taper off. I am asking questions because we bought from her because Lola was supposed to be under 3.5 pounds. If she is 5 or 10 pounds we will love her the same but I don't want to be lied to. Thank you for the info, you guys are great.
I would trust your breeder. Even if she is wrong in the end and she weighs 5 instead of 3.5 she will not have mislead you intentinally. If the weights of the parents are accurate then the adult weights she is quoting should be about right but you never know what mother nature may do!!

Did she put it in writing that she "guaranteed" the adult weight because that is almost unheard of. If she did, what is the consequence if she is over the predicted weight? Do you get some money back or what? Just curious.
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OH LAWD!!!! LOLOLOL! Call your vet!!! Ask them if she's 18 ounces or 30 ounces out of 1.14 lbs. Ask them what their conversion is...
LOL I am with you. I can't even read these posts. This much math makes my brain sore.
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My vet was totally thrilled with my dog's weight. He's 17 weeks old and weighs 5 1/4 pounds. He said it is so refreshing to see such a healthy - normal sized little guy. And he went on to read off a list of serious problems he encouters daily with tiny little dogs....He said "It is criminal to breed a Yorkie that weighs less than 5 pounds" adding "People just don't see what I see."

He said that Yorkie breeders aren't the only people who do this. It is being done with a lot of other small breeds as well.

I would hope that your little gets up to at least 5 pounds. He has such a better chance for a long healthy life if he does. So please - don't want or hope for a very tiny little guy!

Carol Jean

PS: I can't believe that your breeder bred two such small little dogs - shame on her!
On another thread you said your vet implied it is criminal to even want a dog under 5lbs. I wonder if you might want to find a more experienced vet who understands Toy Breeds. The Yorkie Standard is under 7lbs. Your dog may be "normal" but he probably won't be within the standard. Many people own healthy 3-4lb Yorkies and a 4lb. dog is not unusual. (Go to a YOrkie show, many of them are about that size)

Maltese? prefered size for showing? 4-6lbs.

Chihuahua? must be under 6.

If you and your vet are uncomfortable with such small dogs that is one thing. Calling us criminals is quite another.
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At nine weeks, a little over a lb is small but at nine weeks you can't really predict that well the size it will mature to. I would suspect no more than 3 lbs or even less.
Nine weeks is far too young to place in a new home especially one this tiny. So, now that you have her, you must make sure she is eating well especially before you go to bed so she has enough energy to get through the night. Watch for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) as that can cause death quickly. If she suddenly staggers, c0llapses, or even goes into seizures, check the gums, they'll be gray or white. Rub some Corn syrup on the gums for fastest absorption. Make sure she is breathing until she come around, you can dissolve some syrup in water to give to drink. Nutrical to have on hand is the best but this will work if you don't have any. I would stock a tube of it to have on hand. Then feed protein, chicken is best.
I have two little girl pups now 8 months old. One is 2 1/2 lbs, the other is 3 1/4 lbs. This is the first time in 10 years of breeding I have had these undersized Yorkies. The mother and father are both almost 6 lbs. I wouldn't sell them or let them go to a new home as I had to be sure they were okay and not small due to health problems which is often the case. I have had blood tests, bile acid tests which you can't do until they are 6months old,for liver shunt and all came back normal. They've never had a hypoglycemia episode or much of any other problems except they didn't take their vacc's too well or wormings. Now, I would just do a half vacc's on ones this small.
So, I gave one to a friend of mine that has the great grandmother to these little ones and the other is going to a friend of mine that has two of my dogs. Yes, I gave them to them at no charge except they want to pay for the spay which is less than $200.
I gave them to them because these little undersized ones can be costly for Vet bills. If there is any signs of illness, vomiting, diahrea etc you have to get them into the Vet immediately as they are too small to have any reserve to recover much on their own. I never breed for this small and have no idea where these two came up this tiny from. My Yorkies are usually between 5 1/2 and 7 lbs.
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This math situation is driving me nuts.

It's simple. 1.14 lbs = 1 lb + 14/100ths of a lb, not 1 lb + 14 oz. It's a digital reading.

I would trust the breeder in this situation.
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