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Old 09-30-2014, 01:59 PM   #1
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My apologies if I am posting in the wrong section but I thought this was the right place for a question regarding electronic fences.

Anyone use them? Any recommendations?

My 12 week old would live outside if I would let him, I live on the first floor in a condo and don't have a fenced in yard for him to run freely in. He paws at the screen on the patio and wants to go out and run around constantly. I know the breeder was letting him out in her back yard while potty training, I let him run around out back in the large grassy area off the leash to play a few times. He is starting to be able to run quite a bit faster now and I do not allow him off the leash anymore now that he is leash trained. Obviously it is not safe to let him run around without a leash but he is relentless with pawing at the screen and really likes to run around.

I was thinking that an electronic fence would make it possible for him to run around and stay confined in a designated area. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Absolutely not! Not only is it mean and can effect the health of small dogs it does not keep bigger dogs from attacking him, people from stealing him or hurting him or him taking the shock to get out but not back in. Also he should not be in an area where other dogs go to until he has all of his shots or you risk him getting very very sick. Terriers especially should not be off leash unless in a good and safe fenced in yard.
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He's not in an area where other dogs go to, I am very aware of the dangers of walking him in areas where other dogs go until he's had all of his shots. I wish he would go on the pee pads like my 8 yr old but he thinks it is a place to lie down.

I would never let him run around without me being right there for fear of someone taking him. I don't want him being zapped either so I guess he will have to get used to not being allowed to run around without a leash. I won't even consider dog parks.
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Prior to fencing in part of my property, I used a long training leash, so ZoE had more freedom. You can get them in 20-50ft lengths, so it gives your pup plenty of area to roam, while still safe.
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Have you tried a retractable leash? Or what they call a training lead that like a really long leash?
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Does anyone know if they make these long-leads extra lightweight? The only ones I've ever seen were bulky and heavy and Billi was afraid to do anything with it clipped to her.

I know these fences are really controversial here, but I've been curious about them because while 9/10 times, Billi is great in the front yard and doesn't run off, every so often a neighbor will catch her eye and she darts and doesn't stop. She doesn't even look both ways before crossing the street!

I'm actually seriously not worried about any dogs getting to her- she's never out for very long, or when other dogs are out. I am seriously worried about her recall and darting whenever something sets her off.

And yes, before you mention it- we've trained her on this over and over. She always does it perfectly for the trainers, or for us in front of the trainer. The problem is getting her to stop every time.




So long story short: is there ever an instance where it's ok to use one of these to keep her from getting hit by a car?
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Does anyone know if they make these long-leads extra lightweight? The only ones I've ever seen were bulky and heavy and Billi was afraid to do anything with it clipped to her.

I know these fences are really controversial here, but I've been curious about them because while 9/10 times, Billi is great in the front yard and doesn't run off, every so often a neighbor will catch her eye and she darts and doesn't stop. She doesn't even look both ways before crossing the street!

I'm actually seriously not worried about any dogs getting to her- she's never out for very long, or when other dogs are out. I am seriously worried about her recall and darting whenever something sets her off. Had a friend with one of those fences she had two beagles and both at different times got out and hit by a car.

And yes, before you mention it- we've trained her on this over and over. She always does it perfectly for the trainers, or for us in front of the trainer. The problem is getting her to stop every time.




So long story short: is there ever an instance where it's ok to use one of these to keep her from getting hit by a car?
No the shock is to much for there little body's and most don't sell them for dogs under like 15 pounds. They are cruel. Most dogs especially terriers will take the shock if it's something they really want.
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Does anyone know if they make these long-leads extra lightweight? The only ones I've ever seen were bulky and heavy and Billi was afraid to do anything with it clipped to her.

I know these fences are really controversial here, but I've been curious about them because while 9/10 times, Billi is great in the front yard and doesn't run off, every so often a neighbor will catch her eye and she darts and doesn't stop. She doesn't even look both ways before crossing the street!

I'm actually seriously not worried about any dogs getting to her- she's never out for very long, or when other dogs are out. I am seriously worried about her recall and darting whenever something sets her off.

And yes, before you mention it- we've trained her on this over and over. She always does it perfectly for the trainers, or for us in front of the trainer. The problem is getting her to stop every time.




So long story short: is there ever an instance where it's ok to use one of these to keep her from getting hit by a car?
In my opinion if not in a real fence they should not be off leash it's just to risky.
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Does anyone know if they make these long-leads extra lightweight? The only ones I've ever seen were bulky and heavy and Billi was afraid to do anything with it clipped to her.

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So long story short: is there ever an instance where it's ok to use one of these to keep her from getting hit by a car?
The lead isn't heavy in my opinion, but I guess it depends on how big your pup is. I used it with ZoE from her being about 10 weeks old and she has never had issue with it.

Personally, I don't think shock collars are ever ok on small dogs. Would you strap one around the neck of a 10lb infant and shock it if it crawls out of bounds?

I know people do it. My last home was in a restricted subdivision and fences weren't allowed (other than immediately around in-ground swimming pools, which were the only kind of pools allowed). I had a pool installed and built my fencing specifically, so my yorkie had an area inside the fence...sneaky!

My neighbor directly across the street had a chihuahua that was let out front of their house daily, and he wore a shock collar every day for the ten years I lived there. He never went near the boundary even when people walked right in front of his home.
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In my opinion if not in a real fence they should not be off leash it's just to risky.
Well, normally she is really good. Unfortunately, she has gotten out from the front door being opened. That'll be easier to prevent once my step-daughter moves, since I'm more diligent about that, but still...


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No the shock is to much for there little body's and most don't sell them for dogs under like 15 pounds. They are cruel. Most dogs especially terriers will take the shock if it's something they really want.
I certainly don't want to hurt her, but I'm scared to death she's going to get killed crossing this street. We don't live on a main road, but people who live on other streets, use our street like a freeway and speed like crazy. Half the time you don't hear them until you see them and you don't see them until it's too late. She's 3 pounds, she would not survive a hit. She darts so she can greet the neighbors- thankfully they all know and like her and want her safe too. I just wish she'd stop when I tell her too. I'd be happy to walk her across myself to let her say hello!

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The lead isn't heavy in my opinion, but I guess it depends on how big your pup is. I used it with ZoE from her being about 10 weeks old and she has never had issue with it.

Personally, I don't think shock collars are ever ok on small dogs. Would you strap one around the neck of a 10lb infant and shock it if it crawls out of bounds?

I know people do it. My last home was in a restricted subdivision and fences weren't allowed (other than immediately around in-ground swimming pools, which were the only kind of pools allowed). I had a pool installed and built my fencing specifically, so my yorkie had an area inside the fence...sneaky!

My neighbor directly across the street had a chihuahua that was let out front of their house daily, and he wore a shock collar every day for the ten years I lived there. He never went near the boundary even when people walked right in front of his home.
My stepdaughter tried a bark collar for her dog and it didn't work, and I don't necessarily want to shock my baby, I just wonder if there's a product that will make her stop when she gets to the edge of our yard. She's only 3 pounds and tiny, but she's flipping QUICK when she wants to run and she becomes pretty hard of hearing, too- or she forgets what the word "Stop!" is!

I'll have to put more research into the long leads. I've searched the bigbox stores sites to no avail- Billi's so little that I have to be careful of the weight of any lead, but a long lead has been extra difficult to find.
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Well, normally she is really good. Unfortunately, she has gotten out from the front door being opened. That'll be easier to prevent once my step-daughter moves, since I'm more diligent about that, but still...




I certainly don't want to hurt her, but I'm scared to death she's going to get killed crossing this street. We don't live on a main road, but people who live on other streets, use our street like a freeway and speed like crazy. Half the time you don't hear them until you see them and you don't see them until it's too late. She's 3 pounds, she would not survive a hit. She darts so she can greet the neighbors- thankfully they all know and like her and want her safe too. I just wish she'd stop when I tell her too. I'd be happy to walk her across myself to let her say hello!



My stepdaughter tried a bark collar for her dog and it didn't work, and I don't necessarily want to shock my baby, I just wonder if there's a product that will make her stop when she gets to the edge of our yard. She's only 3 pounds and tiny, but she's flipping QUICK when she wants to run and she becomes pretty hard of hearing, too- or she forgets what the word "Stop!" is!

I'll have to put more research into the long leads. I've searched the bigbox stores sites to no avail- Billi's so little that I have to be careful of the weight of any lead, but a long lead has been extra difficult to find.
You need to train her not to run out the door it actually some that is as important as teaching them to come when called. Another option is a fence and gate around the door either on the outside or inside where you have to like open the gate on the pet fence shut it and then open the front door.
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You need to train her not to run out the door it actually some that is as important as teaching them to come when called. Another option is a fence and gate around the door either on the outside or inside where you have to like open the gate on the pet fence shut it and then open the front door.

Yeah, like I said, we've worked with her on this a lot over the last 18 months, and since she does it correctly in front of the trainer, they don't seem to believe us that she isn't 100% when they aren't around. Sure, you'll say go invest in another trainer, but that's money we don't have right now, so it's worth asking about alternatives.

Since we rent, we can't invest in a fence in our front yard, but I'll look into putting something on our porch for her.
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My stepdaughter tried a bark collar for her dog and it didn't work, and I don't necessarily want to shock my baby, I just wonder if there's a product that will make her stop when she gets to the edge of our yard. She's only 3 pounds and tiny, but she's flipping QUICK when she wants to run and she becomes pretty hard of hearing, too- or she forgets what the word "Stop!" is!

I'll have to put more research into the long leads. I've searched the bigbox stores sites to no avail- Billi's so little that I have to be careful of the weight of any lead, but a long lead has been extra difficult to find.
As she is so small, you could make your own out of nylon cord. You can buy it by the yard at Joann's.

Can you build a fence where you live? When I moved to my new wee house, I built my own fence over a few weekends.

I understand about the not stopping and coming on command when it's crucial. Shortly after I built my fence my Mum was over helping me do yard work. She'd taken some fallen branches up to my firepit, opened the gate at the top of my fenced area, and forgot to close it when she then walked around the side of the fence back to the garage. Later that day I let ZoE out, and next thing I see is her on the other side of the fence! I live on a main road now, so I was totally freaking out! And ZoE would not come to me or stop when i called her, even though we'd successfully done tons of training on it. She ran all the way around the fence as was cowering by the door to my breezeway by the time I'd ran all the way around to the front of the house. Thankfully she was ok. Since then I've installed a self closing feature like I had on my prior swimming pool gate.
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Yeah, like I said, we've worked with her on this a lot over the last 18 months, and since she does it correctly in front of the trainer, they don't seem to believe us that she isn't 100% when they aren't around. Sure, you'll say go invest in another trainer, but that's money we don't have right now, so it's worth asking about alternatives.

Since we rent, we can't invest in a fence in our front yard, but I'll look into putting something on our porch for her.
I'm talking about one you can bend in like a half circle. And no I don't think you need another trainer you just have to keep doing it, keep practicing.
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