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Old 12-11-2015, 03:25 AM   #586
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I have noticed an increase in complaints by people that have limited communication skills on a public forum, and they misinterpret any post that disagrees with what they have said, or a post that suggests they have more important issues that need addressing, or they complain about being told they need to be vetting their dog, or they take offense at a posters style of posting, or speech patterns, or even typing styles...OMG!!!...the list goes on and on! All this criticism for advice and help, given for free, and by people that are knowledgeable in a vast array of different topics.....but apparently not delivered in a cadence or style or speech pattern one finds politically correct or benign......maybe we need to have a "For Adults Only" section, where adults come to ask other adults a question, and then adults respond to the question, offering their knowledge about the topic, possibly actually helping the poster, utilizing adult suggestions and direction, delivered in an adult manner. No insults or belligerence or judgmental criticism, by either person.....just a question/answer session......posters that only appreciate and tolerate "warm and fuzzy", can stay out of the "Adults Only" section. Bold, straight forward honesty is not the same as ridicule, insults, harassment, and condemnation, and should not be considered or misinterpreted as such.....
I totally understand where you're coming from . Your post regarding different posting styles etc, reminded me of this wonderful post from page 20, remember this...? Good one.

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Some people think with logic and some think with feelings and neither way is better - just different.

I, for example, am a logic person. I understand things and communicate that understanding via logic which is not always construed as "nice" to a feeling person because truth is often blunt. In my opinion, one should adapt their feelings towards truth - not the other way around.

Yet, social intelligence is important especially on a forum where all sorts of personalities converge. What good is logic without the ability to express it so that it can be shared with and learned by others? So, I have to ensure that I try very hard to come across as understanding AND logical. I must understand that not everything is logical and feelings can be the most illogical of all things. However, without the compassion of a feeling person, my logical statements would not always be well tolerated.

Albert Einstein said, "Gravitation is not responsible for falling in love."

We all need each other to grow. So, LOGICIANS, if you state a fact, try to do so compassionately. FEELERS, if someone states a fact, try to see it as good intent rather than an attack on your character.

Give and take is key to effective communication.

I think someone stated in an earlier post that we all care about the dogs. That's the thing to remember. We can learn from each other so that our dogs benefit from our knowledge and our love.

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Bold, straight forward honesty is not the same as ridicule, insults, harassment, and condemnation, and should not be considered or misinterpreted as such.....
I try to be careful when responding to qst/comments, but will admit I sometimes see 'red' and perhaps need to pause and take a deep breath before posting reply. I do, however, very much agree with Yorkiemom1 in that wearing kid gloves and molly-coddling (uh-oh, showing my age again) the super-sensitive types isn't going to help anyone---least of all, and most important, the canines. Personally, in my year or so of reading this site, I've seen very, very few--very, very harsh posts; and while I have read some rather scathing comments, those are usually in response to being 'attacked' by confused individual who inappropriately went on the offense and evidently needed simple easy-to-understand clarification (redundant, yes, but part of my point).
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OOOOOHHHHHHH!! Just read your reply, Wylie's Mom. I'm with you all the way. It was a very good post and a good reminder, but geez, sometimes it's hard to be good! I think maybe you should run for President, because you have way of making everything alright. Thank you so much, again and always!
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I have noticed an increase in complaints by people that have limited communication skills on a public forum, and they misinterpret any post that disagrees with what they have said, or a post that suggests they have more important issues that need addressing, or they complain about being told they need to be vetting their dog, or they take offense at a posters style of posting, or speech patterns, or even typing styles...OMG!!!...the list goes on and on! All this criticism for advice and help, given for free, and by people that are knowledgeable in a vast array of different topics.....but apparently not delivered in a cadence or style or speech pattern one finds politically correct or benign......maybe we need to have a "For Adults Only" section, where adults come to ask other adults a question, and then adults respond to the question, offering their knowledge about the topic, possibly actually helping the poster, utilizing adult suggestions and direction, delivered in an adult manner. No insults or belligerence or judgmental criticism, by either person.....just a question/answer session......posters that only appreciate and tolerate "warm and fuzzy", can stay out of the "Adults Only" section. Bold, straight forward honesty is not the same as ridicule, insults, harassment, and condemnation, and should not be considered or misinterpreted as such.....
Your post just hit the nail on the head, Judy!

Of course, it will all continue as is anyway because it is the nature of online forums.
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I totally understand where you're coming from . Your post regarding different posting styles etc, reminded me of this wonderful post from page 20, remember this...? Good one.
It all reminds me of the little game we played in school where we whispered something to the person next to us and it traveled all around the circle of people until the last one who would say what had been whispered and it was never even close to what started.

It happens here with words that are typed! People read and take what they want from it ... and then swear that their interpretation is gospel.

There are many ways to say one thing.....I think that it matters not how some of say things, because if it is honesty that someone does not wish to hear, we will be leaped on no matter how we say it. Not saying that is true in all cases, but in many. I cannot even begin to imagine how many complaints you and admin must wade through. All for a non paying job. EEK
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As a really excited new member I agree with this type of behavior not being allowed. We all love our babies and are just looking for support on how to be the best parents we can be to them.
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As a really excited new member I agree with this type of behavior not being allowed. We all love our babies and are just looking for support on how to be the best parents we can be to them.
Welcome to YT!
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What a wonderful post and obviously much needed! The fact that this topic even has to be addressed among adults is completely absurd to me. Like teaching compassion, mannerisms and filter. I have been a member for just a short time now and absolutely love the topics, interaction and site as a fun & most helpful resource to me. Our fur babies are like our children, they eat with us, sleep with us, go on vacation with us, completely interact and completely involved in our every day lives. I see posts where pet owners are completely beside themselves with grief and fear over there fur babies health and come with questions, concern, participation and feedback not attack. It all has to do with delivery, not sparing someone's feelings to the truth but as a human being having compassion, tact and yes sometimes filtering your response. it makes newbies such as myself not even want to participate but why exclude myself from such a wonderful sight for someone's poor behavior. I commend your addressing this issue, but somethings just cannot be taught
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What a wonderful post and obviously much needed! The fact that this topic even has to be addressed among adults is completely absurd to me. Like teaching compassion, mannerisms and filter. I have been a member for just a short time now and absolutely love the topics, interaction and site as a fun & most helpful resource to me. Our fur babies are like our children, they eat with us, sleep with us, go on vacation with us, completely interact and completely involved in our every day lives. I see posts where pet owners are completely beside themselves with grief and fear over there fur babies health and come with questions, concern, participation and feedback not attack. It all has to do with delivery, not sparing someone's feelings to the truth but as a human being having compassion, tact and yes sometimes filtering your response. it makes newbies such as myself not even want to participate but why exclude myself from such a wonderful sight for someone's poor behavior. I commend your addressing this issue, but somethings just cannot be taught
Thank you, I so agree. I love this site, I love the photos of everyone's fur babies, the comments, and the sharing. I have learned quite a bit here. It's worth it! A group hug to us all
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[QUOTE=Piddle Place;4611552]Thank you, I so agree. I love this site, I love the photos of everyone's fur babies, the comments, and the sharing. I have learned quite a bit here. It's worth it! A group hug to us all[/QUOTE
That's so nice!!
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It's gotten a lot better here in the last six months or so. Who's not here anymore? LOL
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Hi all -

Firstly, I just want to say what a wonderful community YT is, and that I hope this thread can help us all think about improving our presence here during interactions…even if it just means tweaking our posting styles a bit.

I’ll get right to the point: we’ve been receiving a huge amount of communications from members who are concerned/venting about some of the harshness and aggression they’re seeing/perceiving in the community. This harshness pertains to both new and old members - on both the receiving and giving end of things. We’re hearing there is a pervasive feeling that members are being driven away via disrespectful, snarky, disdainful, extremely aggressive, and downright mean posting styles. This needs to stop.

We cannot be a community or call ourselves a community if we don’t come together sometimes, as a collective, and agree to do better. Well, it’s time to come together and agree to do better...to be more aware of giving (yes, GIVING) respect, to be more kind, to be more compassionate and supportive.

No one is asking anyone to be a Pollyanna or to not be themselves. We’re merely asking that, in your interactions, you strive harder and TRULY commit to what is mentioned in the previous paragraph. It’s not that hard -- and if it IS hard for you, then perhaps this isn’t the right board for you and perhaps it’s time to move on from YT to find an environment that does fit.

We are not asking much. If you do think we’re asking too much, then 1) this is not the community for you 2) you’re being self-centered and 3) you need to develop your insight into human beings, other than yourself. WE ARE NOT ASKING MUCH.

It is okay to speak your mind here at YT. However, it is not okay to simply justify any means you deem fit to meet your end goal. We believe in being STRONG advocates for dogs/animals - but not, however, at the expense of the human being behind that dependent and innocent dog. Please do not assume or think that it’s okay to behave any way you please merely because it’s in the interest of an animal. We all need to be decent here and post w/ a modicum of respect…EVEN when and especially when dealing with someone who is doing everything we are personally opposed to. Your opposition to another human being’s behavior does *not* mean you are right, nor is it a fact that they are universally and categorically wrong….it merely means you have opposition. Please learn to deal with it because it’s not going away.

If we see excessively negative and/or badgering posting styles, we will be warning people or suspending people and/or permanently banning members’ accounts.

This is an open discussion in terms of feedback, thoughts, concerns….so please feel free to share. This post is not aimed at anyone, so please do not make assumptions. It was driven by the sheer amount of concerned members who expressed themselves via PMs and on the forum itself. Thank you for reading!
This is so well written. Although I just started posting, I've lurked for years.

I feel badly that someone looking for help or to vent or anything would be made to feel this way, so if they read this I share my favorite Coco Channel quote that I refer to whenever I've been made to feel this way in life "I don't care what you think about me, I don't even think about you".

I think there's so many wonderful, helpful sweethearts here, don't let a few stinky apples discourage you. And please don't let them chase you away, the more yorkies the merrier!
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It's gotten a lot better here in the last six months or so. Who's not here anymore? LOL
Right on, wise guy! I love your posts!!
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Hi everyone. My name is Roxie and I am a new owner of a 3 lb 4 year abused rescue yourkie her name is Kelsey and we absolutely love her. It has been a long time since I had a pet so I am hoping to learn and share a lot with you guys.
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Hi everyone. My name is Roxie and I am a new owner of a 3 lb 4 year abused rescue yourkie her name is Kelsey and we absolutely love her. It has been a long time since I had a pet so I am hoping to learn and share a lot with you guys.
Welcome Roxie and bless you for rescuing Kelsey! I guarantee she'll make it worth your while! Check out the discussions, and either comment on one that interests you or create a new thread. Love to see pictures of Kelsey!
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