Dog locked in car.....

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Maybe they tell their employees to stay out of verbal disagreements between patrons for many reasons, mostly to do with legal issues and the likelihood of the clerk getting injured should an angry patron assault them, draw a weapon or to prevent lawsuits - since some people will sue a big business over any slight they perceive, such as public humiliation, etc. If it had come to physical blows, the employees are probably instructed to call security or the police, depending upon the nature of the fracas, but not involve themselves for their own personal safety as they are only clerks and not trained or paid to risk dealing with those types of incidents.

Hopefully this Jerk and Mrs. Jerk will think next time B4 leaving their dog in a hot car - but probably not. Somebody who is that thoughtless, hearing and reading as we all do constantly about dogs and children dying in hot cars and still do it, is probably never going to suddenly become a responsible dog owner and their poor dogs live or die on a whim of theirs sometimes. And why the virulence of their response? Sounds like overkill on their part! What was they so dang angry about - you were trying to help his own dog!!! "See something, say something" - the public is responsible for speaking up when it sees a wrong in the making!

But I'm so glad you spoke up for the dog and hopefully some of the others standing nearby who witnessed this will think about being called out next time they are apt to leave their own dog in the hot car for fear of having someone like you around to call them out. A dogs only voice after all is our own.

It wasn't even the fact that she didn't call security. What really made me mad was when I walked up to her after it was all said and done and very polity said, "I really wish that you had called a manager when it was going on" and she IGNORED ME like I wasn't even speaking to her. TOTALLY IGNORED ME! She just sent silent and stare at the other employee with a smirk on her face. When I walked away from her they went right back to talking. I did not expect her to jump in to argue or fight or take sides. But she should have contacted security, manager, department head SOMEONE!

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

You have to check your city/state law regarding this. Here in AZ, we can call 911. See this link:

Table of State Laws for Animals in Parked Cars

Originally Posted by Bellabean

Sad that so few states, including my own, even have a law.

Just because your State isn't listed doesn't mean that there aren't laws in place to protect animals. Michigan isn't listed, yet MCL 750.50 is used to enforce animal neglect and cruelty. Michigan was listed in the top five states last year as best places for animals, so even though it may not have a specific law dealing with hot cars, laws are enforced to protect animals in harmful situations.

[KazzyK810]

Here's the link to the best and worst States for animal welfare.

http://aldf.org/wp-content/uploads/2...s-Rankings.pdf

Megansmomma, Illinois has held the number 1 spot for several years running.

[valeriejsmyth]

I would never hesitate to call and report a dog no matter how large, old left in a car. In FL it only takes about 5-8 minutes for the car temp to get over 90 degrees. I would love to have them sit in a hot car for ten minutes without air running and the windows shut just so they could experience what a dog or pup goes through. Oh, and they should have to put on a fur coat before doing it!! They should be arrested on the spot I think. Leave your pet at home - you are not doing them any favors by taking them with you. NOW, during the winter months that's a different thing (I'm talking FL now - fifty degrees). We take our pets for rides in the car but not to run errands unless on a cold day.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

It wasn't even the fact that she didn't call security. What really made me mad was when I walked up to her after it was all said and done and very polity said, "I really wish that you had called a manager when it was going on" and she IGNORED ME like I wasn't even speaking to her. TOTALLY IGNORED ME! She just sent silent and stare at the other employee with a smirk on her face. When I walked away from her they went right back to talking. I did not expect her to jump in to argue or fight or take sides. But she should have contacted security, manager, department head SOMEONE!

Why did you want a manager or help called? You started the incident and seem to have handled it and made your point!

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

You have to check your city/state law regarding this. Here in AZ, we can call 911. See this link:

Table of State Laws for Animals in Parked Cars

Sad to see that Hawaii and so many other states have NO law to protect animals.

Public awareness is important. Maybe we could get Walmart and other stores to put up a poster or flyer in their pet department warning of heat danger or tape these to windows of cars where dogs are left.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by MauiGirl

Sad to see that Hawaii and so many other states have NO law to protect animals.

Public awareness is important. Maybe we could get Walmart and other stores to put up a poster or flyer in their pet department warning of heat danger or tape these to windows of cars where dogs are left.

I like that!!! You'd think the stores in hot climates would order bunches of these put them up on the front doors themselves during the hot months and charge the expense to public services tax write-offs or do it as a charitable offering for the millions-billions they have made and will continue to make off dog supplies and goods. They could call the media to cover their grand gestures of hanging the warning posters and even get good pub out of it. How neat would that be!

Oh, wait - I must have been dreaming there for a minute - Walmart or none of them would likely spend one dime of their own money to help dogs left in hot cars in their parking lots this way!!! Guess it's still and always up to us.

[coolcowsmoo]

Just slightly off topic, but similar jerk response. I was walking my little guy yesterday and went by a house that has a larger dog that they sometimes keep out on the front yard NOT on a leash. When I see that, I always detour and do not head down the block. By little guy thinks he's a big shot and can have a big mouth when trying to "protect" us. But yesterday there were cars parked in the driveway so I didn't see the dog out front. The owner was on the lawn and the dog was hidden between the two cars walking around. When we passed in front of the cars his dog darted towards us (luckily and for whatever reason I have no idea my guy kept his trap shut thankfully) however it scared me because I had no idea if the dog would stop or not when the guy yelled at his dog. The dog did obey the command and stop and I kept walking by so as not to stop and antagonize the either dog but when I got to the next house's yard, I turned around and said "you should have him on a leash" and the man yelled "You should mind your own f*ckin business"!


This infuriates me for a number of reasons. One he may know his dog is well trained, however, no one else does and it is frightening when walking a little dog to have a big dog come running up to you and stop just short of you. Also, dogs are animals and you never know what might set them off to attack another dog or person and a "he never did anything like that before" doesn't matter squat after something happens! Also, why should I mind my own business. Our city has a leash law and he is breaking the law and that is my business!!


My daughter said I should have yelled back "you should have more respect than to talk to a lady like that". Unfortunately I had to tell her that in my experience... people you have no respect for the law, usually don't have any respect for anybody!!


Sorry for the rant and being a bit off topic here, but I recognized the jerk factor and couldn't help but comment!! LOL

[sandy simpson]

Stupid idiot for leaving dogs in the hot car! God bless you for jumping in there and being concerning. I would do the same thing. I hate to see dogs in hot cars. Total cruelty and I would dial 911 immediately.

[Maximo]

So frustrating! Why oh why do people leave their pets in cars?!

I am happy to see some businesses like CVS pharmacy install signs in their parking lots telling customers not to leave pets in the car. Would like to see these signs in every parking lot.

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by Maximo

So frustrating! Why oh why do people leave their pets in cars?!

I am happy to see some businesses like CVS pharmacy install signs in their parking lots telling customers not to leave pets in the car. Would like to see these signs in every parking lot.

[ShowGirlLola]

Wow that was an extreme reaction (on their part). It's awful that people think it's ok to leave a dog in a hot car.

I think the employees are told to stay out of fights, just like they aren't supposed to confront shop lifters. It's also possible they didn't do anything because there was a story about a walmart employee getting fired for calling the cops about a dog locked in a car.
Wal-Mart Worker Fired For Calling Police - Business Insider

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Good for you for speaking up!

Here in AZ, we can call the cops when we see a dog in a hot car - and I've done it SEVERAL times, sadly.

And btw, it once happened at a Walmart - and I went up to the Walmart security officer and asked him to do something, he said he couldn't - I told him about the law, but he still wouldn't do anything so I called the cops myself. That Monday, I called and spoke to the Manager of the Walfart and told her what happened and how I felt about the fact that NO ONE working at Walmart would do a thing. She said the employees were 100% in the wrong and that she was going to talk to the whole store about it at the next meeting.

So, if I were you - I'd call and speak w/ the main manager on Monday to let them know how their employees behaved.

I honestly think the person you spoke with lied to you. I went through the exact same thing when I lived in Ca & was told by numerous employees that they are not allowed to call the police or even make a page for the owners when dogs are locked in hot cars. I went to the store Manager & was told the same thing. I told the idiot that he was breaking the law & I went & called the cops. After waiting for several min the police showed up . I told the officer what I was told by several employees AND the store Manager. The officer got VERY wide eyed & said "Oh is that rite" & turned & marched into the store & headed for the CB, I followed & stood back to hear what he was saying. Shortly after, the manager showed up & got a reaming from the officer. When I returned to the car with the 3 mini daschunds on the verge of heat stroke, the other officer was giving the owners some He!! & about 40 people were standing around clapping. It was 101 degrees that day So I really believe this is Walmarts policy.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Why did you want a manager or help called? You started the incident and seem to have handled it and made your point!

I think you are missing my point. It was like the girl ignored me when I was speaking to her. Yes, I went up to her and asked her a question but she ignored me like I wasn't even there.

[Oddsock]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I think you are missing my point. It was like the girl ignored me when I was speaking to her. Yes, I went up to her and asked her a question but she ignored me like I wasn't even there.

They say as a form of abuse ignoring is worse than bullying, as it's as if you don't exist or matter. You're so beneath the person, you don't even rate being spoken too. I grew up in a home where an adult family member never spoke to me for years, it's is very abusive. So I understand why it stayed with you and annoyed you. It's so rude.