I need major help

[chachi]

I wouldnt send her back for an open font and even if you do there is no guarantee she will give you your money back she hasnt been handeling this well anyway

[Julia Howard]

Hydrocephalus is not a death sentence. I have a 5 year old and a 7 year old who have hydro. Neither have the soft spots. They both had other symptoms. She may or may not have hydro. Having a soft spot will definitley make it easier to diagnose through the spot rather than having the firm skull to try and diagnose. Get her checked out for hydro. If you love her it will be well worth the money. I have known dogs who lived their whole lives with soft spots and never had problems from it. I think everyone is getting excited without knowing facts. Please get her checked out with a specialist.

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

@Maui Girl,

Please don't forget that this pup has additional concerns. I hate to see any thing dismissed as trivial when the OP is trying to get information. The best person to give this information and prognosis is a vet (or 2 or 3....10) who has actually examined Zoey.

Yes I am aware of the minor LP which many have at an early age, and often firm up by 1 year. I also understand that an indented vulva "may" lead to UTIs in the future. Neither are life threatening.

I completely agree that a reputable Vet Specialist would be best to diagnose and assess, and I certainly hope Amy is seeking one. Knowing that Zoey is under 2 lbs at 18 weeks calls for seeing Vets that specialize in small dogs too.

Zoey obviously has a few defects to be assessed, but I am not at all sure that returning her to the breeder is the best option, or that it is even possible after having her for 2 months.

I wish the very best for Zoey, and for Amy.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by MauiGirl

Yes I am aware of the minor LP which many have at an early age, and often firm up by 1 year. I also understand that an indented vulva "may" lead to UTIs in the future. Neither are life threatening.

I completely agree that a reputable Vet Specialist would be best to diagnose and assess, and I certainly hope Amy is seeking one. Knowing that Zoey is under 2 lbs at 18 weeks calls for seeing Vets that specialize in small dogs too.

Zoey obviously has a few defects to be assessed, but I am not at all sure that returning her to the breeder is the best option, or that it is even possible after having her for 2 months.

I wish the very best for Zoey, and for Amy.

I agree with this 100%.

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by Julia Howard

Hydrocephalus is not a death sentence. I have a 5 year old and a 7 year old who have hydro. Neither have the soft spots. They both had other symptoms. She may or may not have hydro. Having a soft spot will definitley make it easier to diagnose through the spot rather than having the firm skull to try and diagnose. Get her checked out for hydro. If you love her it will be well worth the money. I have known dogs who lived their whole lives with soft spots and never had problems from it. I think everyone is getting excited without knowing facts. Please get her checked out with a specialist.

I do hope Amy will see get Zoey to a specialist soon to find out for sure what she is dealing with. It will either ease her fears, or prepare her for future care.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by amyazer

no i didnt just purchase her i never said i just purchased...all the other vets never really commented on her spoft...

No, you really didn't say it was a recent purchase but I guess the fact that you were considering returning her is what gave me that impression since no purchase date was mentioned. I lept to conclusions you had just gotten her and just gotten a vet check, got the bad news and were sort of in shock, facing perhaps a lot of medical expenses due to possible hydrocephalus. A little poodle I bought years back did have a very severe case of hydrocephalus but to look at her at the breeder's house, I had no idea. I immediately named her Twinkie. Beautiful little glossy black, curly, vivacious poodle! I just thought a tiny poodle puppy with a big head, very short back, pompous little tail, precious little face, huge eyes, acting so frisky and playful, was darling. She was my little dream dog. But she took an almost immediate and serious turn for the worst when I got her home and she stayed down. My vet only gave her hours to live and thought she should immediately be put down due to her pain levels but when he called the breeder to complain why she's offered such a very seriously ill dog for sale rather than having her at the hospital, said breeder got hostile, insisted I bring her back at once, accused me essentially of doing something to her and was really a horrible person. It was truly a terrible, terrible situation. I guess that episode is one of the reasons I am so against buying from just any breeder unless they are well-respected and highly reputable, have spent years studying how best to breed for healthy, happy and good-tempered dogs that improve the breed and is dedicated to health-testing/certing her breeding pair.

I'm glad your baby hasn't been diagnosed with that condition though you will still need to have her checked frequently by a specialist. My sister's poodle had a lifetime open font that never fully closed except for some fibrous union the final mm.'s and her dog was able to live a cautious but essentially normal life with frequent vet checks.

[Patti]

All 3 of mine have some issues/ Some they came with some came out later. Roxie has the open fontenal as I mentioned earlier. I just keep her bow situated over the spot and have had no problems and she is almost 6. LP has unfortunately become so common that it is getting harder and harder to get one who doesn't have some degree of it or develop it. It may never be an issue either. Given you have had her for awhile, I would spend the money on a thorough exam with a small breed specialist and then make your decision. But only you can decide how much you can handle. I wish you luck in your decision.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

So Amy, turn this around. Lets say you don't take your little one to a specialist and instead turn her back over for something that might happen. How would you feel a year from now if you found out :

A) she did have it and was not being well taken care of.

B) she didn't have it and was living happily with someone else.

Or

C) the breeder had her euthanized without finding out more information.


Again, these are things you can only answer for yourself.

Or kept the greeder kept Zoey in a cage and bred her until she was useless to her letting her live in her own filth and never getting vet care, grooming or human interaction.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by amyazer

no i didnt just purchase her i never said i just purchased...all the other vets never really commented on her spoft...when i went to this vet he seemed very concerned that it was the size of an inch...he didnt say she has hydrocephalus he said often times with soft spots that large it could be an indicator...then he told me about her grade 1 knees (which i was confused about bec one vet said no the other said yes) now this vet said yes she has grade 1...the knew thing is her vulva is a in not completely out...back to the soft spot i thought it was gonna close bec the breeder told me and the drs didnt seem concerned about it except this last one...he said hes never seen one this large before n told me the possible consequences...this is what freaked me out...
p.s. someone on here told me to call the breeder n fake her out and say i will return zoey and see if she will just give me my money back without returning zoey (that was a long shot) she got frazzled said she couldnt talk because she was on her way to the lawyers office ( was that supposed to scare me?) shes getting a divorce (or so she claims) so she wanted to hint that she has a lawyer i guess? anyway she said for me to ship her back and then she will refund my money (what does she think i am that stupid?) i argued with her she said she doesnt have time and hung up in face...lynzy if your reading this i hope u kick her butt i know realize she is a greeder

She probably was really going to the lawyer's office

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by amyazer

no i didnt just purchase her i never said i just purchased...all the other vets never really commented on her spoft...when i went to this vet he seemed very concerned that it was the size of an inch...he didnt say she has hydrocephalus he said often times with soft spots that large it could be an indicator...then he told me about her grade 1 knees (which i was confused about bec one vet said no the other said yes) now this vet said yes she has grade 1...the knew thing is her vulva is a in not completely out...back to the soft spot i thought it was gonna close bec the breeder told me and the drs didnt seem concerned about it except this last one...he said hes never seen one this large before n told me the possible consequences...this is what freaked me out...
p.s. someone on here told me to call the breeder n fake her out and say i will return zoey and see if she will just give me my money back without returning zoey (that was a long shot) she got frazzled said she couldnt talk because she was on her way to the lawyers office ( was that supposed to scare me?) shes getting a divorce (or so she claims) so she wanted to hint that she has a lawyer i guess? anyway she said for me to ship her back and then she will refund my money (what does she think i am that stupid?) i argued with her she said she doesnt have time and hung up in face...lynzy if your reading this i hope u kick her butt i know realize she is a greeder

You trusted her completely by sending her cash-cash. So she needs to trust you by refunding you first, then you "send" Zoey back. I doubt she would go for that anyway. I'm actually very surprised that someone of her caliber even sent any puppy after getting $1500 in cash in the mail from a complete stranger.

Anyway, her divorce lawyer will do nothing as far as Zoey goes. She is just trying to scare you.

I really think you need to go to a specialist, that's #1. Are you planning on taking her to see one? #2 you need to get a lawyer or at least take her to small claims court.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

You trusted her completely by sending her cash-cash. So she needs to trust you by refunding you first, then you "send" Zoey back. I doubt she would go for that anyway. I'm actually very surprised that someone of her caliber even sent any puppy after getting $1500 in cash in the mail from a complete stranger.

Anyway, her divorce lawyer will do nothing as far as Zoey goes. She is just trying to scare you.

I really think you need to go to a specialist, that's #1. Are you planning on taking her to see one? #2 you need to get a lawyer or at least take her to small claims court.

[theporkieyorkie]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

You trusted her completely by sending her cash-cash. So she needs to trust you by refunding you first, then you "send" Zoey back. I doubt she would go for that anyway. I'm actually very surprised that someone of her caliber even sent any puppy after getting $1500 in cash in the mail from a complete stranger.

Anyway, her divorce lawyer will do nothing as far as Zoey goes. She is just trying to scare you.

I really think you need to go to a specialist, that's #1. Are you planning on taking her to see one? #2 you need to get a lawyer or at least take her to small claims court.

[ChibiLuv]

please don't give this one back to the breeder.
It sounds like it might be best to cut your losses, give her to a rescue or even post her in the 'new home needed' section of YT.
If you still want another mix breed puppy I could probably find you any kind of mix you wanted from the shelter I work at

[amyazer]

Alright i made a final decision i will be keeping zoey! it wasnt a tough call at all...shes my baby what ever happens we are in it together!

[ChibiLuv]

congrats! Did you end up taking her to a specialist? I hope she doesn't have issues in the future but you may want to start saving just in case