I need major help

[nanahas3]

It is really a hard thing you are going through Amy and I pray God will give you wisdom on this all. I for one would not judge you if you decide to return little Zoey. I know with Kyra, I was concerned and asked the vet a lot of questions because I had watched a little one suffer with hydro before and I don't know if my heart could of stood it after just watching our little Lolita suffer so much. It is not always about the money, it also is about how strong we think we can be through it all. Honestly if there is no hydro and the vet feels the fontanelle could close I would probably just be extra careful with her and keep a close eye on it. Kyra is a joy and hers according to the vet has closed completely. If you do have the funds I would recommend having a specialist give her a complete check up and make sure she is otherwise healthy. Continuing to pray for you and little Zoey.

[jathompson]

I am sorry to hear about little Zoey, breaks my heart. How much does she weigh?

[docmartin]

I'd just have to help the poor little creature and make her last days as happy and loving as I could. I'm afraid if we were parted, I'd always be wondering what happened to her in the last moments? Sometimes I feel these paradigms are presented to us almost as an honour, to be the final host - but then I'm like that and perhaps a more objective way will be seen by others?

[katiex10204]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

There is no way I could finacialy afford a sick puppy right now but if I bought one and it was sick I still absolutely would not give it back no matter what because the puppy doesn't understand why it's leaving the home it's known for weeks and it will morn and stress leaving. Why do puppies and dogs always have to be the one to suffer. Ok so the pup was bought from a bad breed live and learn even get the law involved but don't make a suffering puppy suffer more. The only way the breeder will learn is to get the law involved I highly doubt returning the puppy is gonna make much difference to teach her anything. Callie was sick when I got her and never even thought of giving her back and trust me what she cost and the health care she had to have was certainly not in the budget. I am not rich or never have been.

I have to agree- I would be exactly this way.

[lisaly]

Originally Posted by docmartin

I'd just have to help the poor little creature and make her last days as happy and loving as I could. I'm afraid if we were parted, I'd always be wondering what happened to her in the last moments? Sometimes I feel these paradigms are presented to us almost as an honour, to be the final host - but then I'm like that and perhaps a more objective way will be seen by others?

I'm the same way as you. When my first Yorkie went to her first checkup a couple of days after I got her, our vet thought she could have a heart condition. It turned out she was okay upon further check up, but I told the vet and my husband that I was already in love with her, and I could not give her up. My husband felt the same way as I did. I'd also worry so much about my baby, and I'd worry also about what she was thinking about me deserting her. I'm not noble enough to purposely go into taking in a dog with high health risks or problems, but once they are mine, there is nothing I wouldn't do to care for my baby as long as it is in their best interests. The times I cared for my Rainbow Bridge babies when they were ill were also special times in the lives we shared. I wish they hadn't been sick, but it was my privilege to care for them.

Still, I think Amy should have Zoey evaluated by an internal medicine specialist so that she knows what health risks she will have to cope with. I think it's the only way she will have any peace in her decision, whichever that it.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by amyazer

The problem is if zoey soft spot brings her hydrocephalus from my understanding she wont have much longer to live thats my issue if it was a treatable condition it could be worked out however water on the brain is very dangerous (worst case scenario)

Please go to a specialist, can you? A Vet Internist would be a good one to see. A soft spot doesn't guarantee hydro at all.

Only you know what you can and can't do for this little one, but I sure would hate to see her go back to her breeder. Do you think you could ask the breeder if she'd be willing to surrender her to a rescue you know of, and still give you a refund?

[amyazer]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Please go to a specialist, can you? A Vet Internist would be a good one to see. A soft spot doesn't guarantee hydro at all.

Only you know what you can and can't do for this little one, but I sure would hate to see her go back to her breeder. Do you think you could ask the breeder if she'd be willing to surrender her to a rescue you know of, and still give you a refund?

i highly doubt she would do that she wouldnt refund my money n let me keep zoey...she only wants her back with a full refund that would be the only thing she would do

[Rhetts_mama]

So Amy, turn this around. Lets say you don't take your little one to a specialist and instead turn her back over for something that might happen. How would you feel a year from now if you found out :

A) she did have it and was not being well taken care of.

B) she didn't have it and was living happily with someone else.

Or

C) the breeder had her euthanized without finding out more information.


Again, these are things you can only answer for yourself.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Have been spot-scanning most threads lately due to eye problems but am I right in understanding that you have had your dog now for almost two months and are not just now learning of her problems, yet considering returning her? I re-read a couple things today that makes me understand now that you are not in the 72 hour window of just having purchased a new puppy you've just had into the vet for it's initial well-puppy once-over, just found these things out. You have apparently had your dog for about two months and are just now thinking of returning her? If that is right, that materially changes things. Time to think of some more things.

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but if that is true and if you have had her that long and knew of her problems but found out a couple more things or that something is a little worse than you'd been originally told, it seems to me that morally that little girl is yours now. I don't follow new puppy purchases and things here on YT that closely and was thinking from your OP on this thread you had just gotten your dog within the last couple days, found all of this out and realizing you maybe bit off more than you could chew medical expense-wise. But it now seems on doing some more reading today that's not the case and the dog has been in your care and custody for quite some considerable time. That being the case, it's time to think of this: A young little dog that has lived with you, acknowledged you as its new mommy/pack leader and become fond of you, trusts you and you love it to bits cannot now be returned to its breeder whom you now are understanding is less than stellar. At this late date, that is not really a choice anymore for several reasons. Sure, if you've just gotten a dog and found out it's very ill, maybe going to have lots of problems and you've just walked out of the vet clinic in shock realizing how you'd just recently been hoodwinked into thinking you'd gotten a very healthy, mixed-breed dog from a wonderful breeder and wanting to return the dog/get a full refund is still an understandable option one can consider when money might be very tight, especially if you've essentially just been given a death sentence for the dog during the well-puppy check-up.

But when you've known about the conditions, (and apparently now I understand the dog doesn't really even have a diagnosis of hydrocephalus so probably isn't in imminent danger of dying) you've lived with and cared for a baby for months, come to love and adore it, knows her quirks and little ways of behaving, nuzzling and cuddling, her night noises, know her feel and her cute personality, you know you won't be able to take her back some two months later and come home and still live with yourself! You'll miss that baby something fierce! It will cut you in two. Two months! That's a long time to grow an awful lot of love all around your heart and through your every single pore. I'm telling you from the experience of having returned a vet-diagnosed dog as near dying to a breeder within hours of buying her for a full refund, it hurts terribly. It hurts even when you've just barely met your dream dog - let alone when you've had her all this time and come to love her every fiber.

If you really have had her a long time, had time to know and adjust to her imperfections and birth defects, now is really the time to just love and nurse her through it with the help of the best veterinary care you can obtain. Once they've got your heart, in reality money concerns do move very, very far far far down the ladder even for very poor doglovers, who gladly incur debt where their dog's care and happiness are concerned. I know you are probably trying to think practically but now, two months in, is really too late for that - now is the time to just gather up your little girl, give her lots of TLC and seek out the best vets you can to learn how to best treat and protect her for the rest of her life. Sometimes the ones with the problems and the ones we have to be so careful around, spend so much time caring for, come to mean the very most to us, knowing how fragile life can be sometimes. And you purpose in your heart to give them the best life possible and set out to make it happen for them.

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Please go to a specialist, can you? A Vet Internist would be a good one to see. A soft spot doesn't guarantee hydro at all.

Only you know what you can and can't do for this little one, but I sure would hate to see her go back to her breeder. Do you think you could ask the breeder if she'd be willing to surrender her to a rescue you know of, and still give you a refund?

I hope all the members following this thread realize this. Many are acting as if this pup has been given a death sentence. It has NOT. Open fonts are not life threatening, and often close, and they do not lead to hydrocephalus.

[MauiGirl]

@Yorkietalkjilly, Jeanne, you are spot on here.

I am praying that someone will advocate for Zoey, who it seems may be discarded due to a small defect that was know 2 months ago.

Amy has stated on other threads that this breeder has had pups with open fonts before, and they have not presented additional problems. I hope she doesn't give up on Zoey over this.

Once again, this dog has NOT been diagnosed with hydrocephalus, and has no symptoms of it, so until that happens, can we stop projecting images of a sick, suffering, expensive pup. That is not indicated at this point.

Prayers are going out to Zoey that her font closes and she lives a happy healthy life, and is adored.

[Rhetts_mama]

@Maui Girl,

Please don't forget that this pup has additional concerns. I hate to see any thing dismissed as trivial when the OP is trying to get information. The best person to give this information and prognosis is a vet (or 2 or 3....10) who has actually examined Zoey.

[nanahas3]

Originally Posted by MauiGirl

I hope all the members following this thread realize this. Many are acting as if this pup has been given a death sentence. It has NOT. Open fonts are not life threatening, and often close, and they do not lead to hydrocephalus.

I completely agree. I too didn't realize Amy had had Zoey for 2 months. I like some others thought she had just purchased her.

[amyazer]

no i didnt just purchase her i never said i just purchased...all the other vets never really commented on her spoft...when i went to this vet he seemed very concerned that it was the size of an inch...he didnt say she has hydrocephalus he said often times with soft spots that large it could be an indicator...then he told me about her grade 1 knees (which i was confused about bec one vet said no the other said yes) now this vet said yes she has grade 1...the knew thing is her vulva is a in not completely out...back to the soft spot i thought it was gonna close bec the breeder told me and the drs didnt seem concerned about it except this last one...he said hes never seen one this large before n told me the possible consequences...this is what freaked me out...
p.s. someone on here told me to call the breeder n fake her out and say i will return zoey and see if she will just give me my money back without returning zoey (that was a long shot) she got frazzled said she couldnt talk because she was on her way to the lawyers office ( was that supposed to scare me?) shes getting a divorce (or so she claims) so she wanted to hint that she has a lawyer i guess? anyway she said for me to ship her back and then she will refund my money (what does she think i am that stupid?) i argued with her she said she doesnt have time and hung up in face...lynzy if your reading this i hope u kick her butt i know realize she is a greeder

[marlenemaria]

I pray to the Lord all turns out well

I also pray little Zoey... poor baby, just wants to be loved