I need major help

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by amyazer

not sure taylor when i went to the second dr she told me at 1.5 pounds she cant put her under...now shes 1.8 pounds...im not sure i assume not

Wow this has turned so many ways since I was last here.

Amy at the least go to a specialist and have this pup evaluated by someone who knows wth they are really doing. Your vet has given you some misinformation, perhaps he means he isn't comfortable sedating a young, tiny pup like this. My Mini was very tiny and young and endured several hours of surgery BY A SPECIALIST.

It amazes me that some of the people who DIDN'T buy/adopt a sick PUP are so quick to say give it back....I know what we should do etc., etc., it also amazes me how when people here are talking about giving it back they suddenly start using the word DOG and IT. I'm not criticizing just noticing...

This poor little girl is yours, she is beautiful, yes you most certainly got robbed to the enth dollar degree...but your baby loves you and needs you and now you have learned so much here going forward, before you get your money back for this baby make sure Amy you have her truly evaluated before such a decision, then I ask that you consider cutting your losses and giving her to a rescue if you can't afford her future care...I can't imagine, knowing what I know about this breeder that she will do anything but put her to death....

I wish you and Zoey nothing but good....

[Rhetts_mama]

They can sedate a pup that size. Since its a fairly quick procedure, it's a light sedation that wears off quickly, but it's best done by a vet who is well versed in small breed sedation protocols.

As to how much it costs, I have no clue. Maybe lynzy can shed some light on that. I'm sure a cardiac ultrasound was one of the many things she had done on her sweet baby along the way.

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

There is no way I could finacialy afford a sick puppy right now but if I bought one and it was sick I still absolutely would not give it back no matter what because the puppy doesn't understand why it's leaving the home it's known for weeks and it will morn and stress leaving. Why do puppies and dogs always have to be the one to suffer. Ok so the pup was bought from a bad breed live and learn even get the law involved but don't make a suffering puppy suffer more. The only way the breeder will learn is to get the law involved I highly doubt returning the puppy is gonna make much difference to teach her anything. Callie was sick when I got her and never even thought of giving her back and trust me what she cost and the health care she had to have was certainly not in the budget. I am not rich or never have been.

Yup, I say hit her where it hurts, her pocket book. Sue her, file the papers. Yes it's true that even if the judge rules in your favor, she may not pay up, but can't they get your bank accts levied? I said to give the pup back as to call her bluff. I doubt that she even wants the pup back. No doubt she will complain about the costs of putting her down.

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

How many times have we seen that people can be just absolutely wonderful while they are trying to get your money in to their pockets, but then their true personality shows up down the road during a crisis? I do believe that this woman's true personality has come shining through, and it isn't pretty.

I say this all the time. What scammer is going to be rude or upfront with scamming you before they get your money? They are always nice before the cash.

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by amyazer

these are the two papers i got from her besides the health certificate n the registration papers i dont know if its clear

It says "if a replacement is ever deemed necessary" but the contract doesn't say how or why a puppy would be replaced.

Have you contacted the breeder again yet?

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Wow this has turned so many ways since I was last here.

Amy at the least go to a specialist and have this pup evaluated by someone who knows wth they are really doing. Your vet has given you some misinformation, perhaps he means he isn't comfortable sedating a young, tiny pup like this. My Mini was very tiny and young and endured several hours of surgery BY A SPECIALIST.

It amazes me that some of the people who DIDN'T buy/adopt a sick PUP are so quick to say give it back....I know what we should do etc., etc., it also amazes me how when people here are talking about giving it back they suddenly start using the word DOG and IT. I'm not criticizing just noticing...

This poor little girl is yours, she is beautiful, yes you most certainly got robbed to the enth dollar degree...but your baby loves you and needs you and now you have learned so much here going forward, before you get your money back for this baby make sure Amy you have her truly evaluated before such a decision, then I ask that you consider cutting your losses and giving her to a rescue if you can't afford her future care...I can't imagine, knowing what I know about this breeder that she will do anything but put her to death....

I wish you and Zoey nothing but good....

I said call her on her bluff and say you will give her back for a refund. She is counting on people not wanting to give back a pup they have bonded with.

[amyazer]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

I said call her on her bluff and say you will give her back for a refund. She is counting on people not wanting to give back a pup they have bonded with.

No i haven't spoken to her since Friday

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

They can sedate a pup that size. Since its a fairly quick procedure, it's a light sedation that wears off quickly, but it's best done by a vet who is well versed in small breed sedation protocols.

As to how much it costs, I have no clue. Maybe lynzy can shed some light on that. I'm sure a cardiac ultrasound was one of the many things she had done on her sweet baby along the way.

I've had several tests done on my pups, surgeries and we are well in over $30,000 at this point in specialists, tests, bloodwork, medicines...I've got cardiac specialists, Cornell consultations, Orthopaedic specialists, and on and on and on...My monthly bills for Mini's meds is $170 and that's every month, most months like this month...August, yesterday $297....I have no idea what her vet will charge, I'm going to say $185 for bloodwork and $375 for sedation and xrays.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

She sure did take the OP in pretty completely, didn't she? She was very taken with her for the longest time and couldn't say enough good things about her.

They are no different then car salespersons....really...I mean would you buy a pup from an honest bich?

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I think at this point it's just best to say we agree to disagree.

Awwww....no problem. You know I luv you to bits and what you do on YT to try to help dogs by educating owners and supporting YT'ers going through troubles and bad times. I really admire you, Miss T. X0x0X0X0

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

They are no different then car salespersons....really...I mean would you buy a pup from an honest bich?

You are soooooooooo right!! Therefore, when someone goes to purchase a puppy, DO NOT GO LOOKING AT PUPPIES!!! They are ALL precious, adorable and irrestible!! YOU MUST FIND YOUR BREEDER FIRST!! If you find a breeder, and they start throwing up red flags, take heed! Start looking again! When people go looking at cars, they already know about car salespeople...so they go in fore warned....better go into breeders with the same forewarning.

[chestermama]

Im sorry you are going through all of this

[ChibiLuv]

I understand not wanting to give a pup up, once you bring them into your lives they are your babies. I would not want to give this poor baby back to the breeder either- it sounds to me like she would just give it to someone else without disclosing all the health issues.
I would be more concerned that not only does she have the open fontanel but she also has the vulva issue and the luxating patella. This is just a baby- who knows what other health issues lay ahead. What if she needs surgery on her head and her knees? Should the OP go homeless to keep this dog or give her to someone who knows what they are getting and are prepared. It's hard to get a puppy and fall in love and then learn they may cost you a small fortune and yes money isn't everything but not everyone can take on a dog like this. If she knew before hand it would be different, but she thought she was getting a happy healthy pup and now has one with multiple issues. Ultimately it is up to the OP what she wants to do. I hope for the best and hope she does take it to a specialist to get a real idea of what may be in store for her little one.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Awwww....no problem. You know I luv you to bits and what you do on YT to try to help dogs by educating owners and supporting YT'ers going through troubles and bad times. I really admire you, Miss T. X0x0X0X0

Thank you but you do a pretty darn good job there too

[4doggiemama]

First off, let me say that I am so sorry that you are faced with such difficult decisions. It is difficult to have doggies who need constant medical help. All my Yorkies and Pommies, with the exception of my Biewer, have suffered major illnesses that have required expensive care. I wouldn't have given any of them up, but it definitely takes an emotional toll. That being said, I just got done dealing with a breeder with the same health guarantee as the OP. I got a little Yorkie/Maltese mix from an owner who could not handle a 10 month old puppy because of personal problems. It soon became apparent that Eva had health issues. About a month ago she had liver shunt surgery which, so far, has been successful. I found out who the breeder was and started exchanging emails. Told her what I thought about her guarantee and why, IMHO, she had that in her contract.....exactly what is being said on this thread. Unethical was mentioned quite often in my conversation with her. In the end she agreed that if I would send Eva's records from K-State Vet Teaching Hospital to her vet for evaluation she would refund the purchase price to the original owner which is what I was asking for. The breeder did returned the purchased price. BYBs and puppy mills......the bane of the breeding world. ~Joanne~

[Ellie May]

OP, I'm sorry you are going through this.

It doesn't matter what I or anybody else on YT would do. What matters is what is best for your family.

You know, there are many people here that won't buy pups from pet stores because it is giving business to unethical breeders. Some are wick and may be euthanized. I don't see anybody here lining up to pay for their "bail".

A former YT member told me something that has stuck with me. It went something like this:
"They (those on forums) like to spend other peoples' money. Seriously, you need to stop caring what other people think".

I know you want what is best for this girl and you and only you know your limits. If you can afford to keep her, great. If you can afford to take a loss and rehome, great. But if you can't, you can't.

Ultrasounds with consult run a few hundred depending (not including anesthesia). They may elect other imaging though.