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Old 05-14-2013, 12:53 PM   #46
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I know you are excited (and who can blame you) but a responsible breeder would never ship dogs, or have a paypal button on their site. * weeks is too young to get a yorkie pup, and you may be surprised by the number of health problems she has later.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:14 PM   #47
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This is a very disappointing conversation I have just read through. You woman have all made judgments without even truly knowing the situation that is not very fair to anyone.

I am the owner of teacuppartiyorkies.com I would never in a million years let any of my dogs suffer. I would never breed a female that was not vet checked and given the go ahead by my vets. All of my dogs that are bred are health tested and vet checked before ever considering breeding.

How many puppy mills do you know that spend hundreds of dollars every month to keep there Yorkies in full coat? Do any of my dogs look abused or sad in there pictures? Do they look sickly or neglected? NO! That's because our dogs are part of our family. They are not just to make a quick buck. Yes we are a breeder and yes we do breed but is that a problem? It's the greatest joy to have a litter and see how much joy that little baby can bring to there new family and how loved they are from the first day.

I offer a great health guarantee! I am very selective to who I sell to and I require that if for any reason they can't keep the puppy at any age it comes back to me.

As for there is no such thing as an Akc teacup??? That is just a name that is used for a dog under 4 pounds. Not everyone wants a Yorkie that's 5+ pounds. There are many breeders breeding runts and un-healthy teacups to try to get the smallest dog they can and that's not what I do. I breed healthy true tiny Yorkies both mom and dad are tiny and produce true healthy teacup puppies. There is no problem in this. I don't risk anyone's life.
My vets have both said you can artificially breed a teacup dog with a Great Dane and the pups will only get as big as her Uterus will allow. She will be able to deliver safely and the pups will grow bigger after they are born.

C-sections can happen in any size dogs. If you are a good breeder you plan on a c-section every litter you breed. I am there for every birth. I help each mom deliver and make it as easy on her as possible. If there is ever a problem the first thing that happens is i go to the vet.
" A puppy mill kills the mom and cuts the babies out if they even know there is a problem before she is dead. "

I am completely fine with everyone having there own opinion but to get on a Yorkie gossip site and bash anyone when you don't really know the situation you just got on a website and decided to judge that person and go to the extreme of calling them a puppy mill is not ok. I wouldn't want to see that happen to anyone. Any of you are welcome to come to my house or the houses of the families that have any of my dogs and come see for yourself that we are not a puppy mill. Your also welcome to talk to my groomer and ask her about my dogs Or your welcome to talk to my vets and ask them if I am risking my girls life by breeding them. Just please don't do this to other breeders before you really know a little respect for one another is all i ask. THANK YOU!
Did you come here to "advertise" your own puppies by telling folks here that they are wrong by helping keep this young inexperienced person from making a major mistake? It sure looks like it from where I'm sitting, and by the way, "knowledgeable", "reputable", & "ethical" breeders don't use the term "teacup" simply because it's only a sale ploy from those who only breed for money, and that doesn't necessarily mean "puppy-millers".
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:01 PM   #48
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I think you guys are overreacting, and frankly being rude. If you wouldn't buy a puppy from this lady, that's perfectly fine and your choice, but on the flip side if OP wants to, who are you to tell her what to do? These puppies are obviously not living in squalor or being abused. If you wanted to warn her as friends you did so and she was very gracious in accepting your criticisms, but in the end it is her choice and I think it's hateful to rain on her parade.

EmmaSophia, your pup is darling and I hope you get her with no problems and enjoy her immensely!
The OP asked for an opinion & I gave mine. Whether you find it rude, I don't care. I am not going to sit here & ignore the fact that he linked the site that he's going to get his puppy from & other unsuspecting people looking for a puppy visits that site & falls in love w/one of those poor puppies for sale. I consider all back yard breeders, brokers/ re-sellers as unethical greeder puppy mills! It's all the same $#!T but different smell!

I didn't respond to the greeder breeder in question here, you can all see from her post that she PURPOSELY breeds tinies to get tinies & is in this business to make $$$ & her vet is from another planet!
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The OP asked for an opinion & I gave mine. Whether you find it rude, I don't care. I am not going to sit here & ignore the fact that he linked the site that he's going to get his puppy from & other unsuspecting people looking for a puppy visits that site & falls in love w/one of those poor puppies for sale. I consider all back yard breeders, brokers/ re-sellers as unethical greeder puppy mills! It's all the same $#!T but different smell!

I didn't respond to the greeder breeder in question here, you can all see from her post that she PURPOSELY breeds tinies to get tinies & is in this business to make $$$ & her vet is from another planet!


We have seen so many people come on here with puppies bought from these brokers that are sick with vet bills adding up. Bran new puppies brought home and the owner has already put in thousands dollars of vet bills, as well as heartache. I think it would be wrong not to say anything- The O.P can do as she pleases obviously, but maybe the next person looking at that website will take another look.
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I just looked at the web site...WOW is all i can say!!!!
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You're right, it would have been wrong to say nothing, but several people have already LOUDLY said several somethings. Enough is enough. You shouting your opinions isn't going to change the OPs. They've already decided on their pup and you being self righteous about it won't change that. If you feel so strongly about unethical breeders you should put that energy into actually doing something about them rather than crushing people's enthusiasm over their new furbaby.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy from this breeder either, I'm not defending them, I'm just asking for a little human decency and politeness here towards a fellow YorkieTalk member.
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You're right, it would have been wrong to say nothing, but several people have already LOUDLY said several somethings. Enough is enough. You shouting your opinions isn't going to change the OPs. They've already decided on their pup and you being self righteous about it won't change that. If you feel so strongly about unethical breeders you should put that energy into actually doing something about them rather than crushing people's enthusiasm over their new furbaby.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy from this breeder either, I'm not defending them, I'm just asking for a little human decency and politeness here towards a fellow YorkieTalk member.
We are doing something we are speaking up. More people then the op and you read these posts and hopefully it will help future puppy buyers. Honestly if you are knowingly buying from a puppy mill you are supporting them and there abuse to there dogs and as bad as the puppy mill owner.
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You're right, it would have been wrong to say nothing, but several people have already LOUDLY said several somethings. Enough is enough. You shouting your opinions isn't going to change the OPs. They've already decided on their pup and you being self righteous about it won't change that. If you feel so strongly about unethical breeders you should put that energy into actually doing something about them rather than crushing people's enthusiasm over their new furbaby.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy from this breeder either, I'm not defending them, I'm just asking for a little human decency and politeness here towards a fellow YorkieTalk member.
I am doing something about it...& please don't call me names or tell me what to do, you're not my mother! Did you consider that the OP is advertising for this greeder, a puppy mill hiding behind the internet? She claims to be 'very selective to who I sell to', how is that possible when someone, anyone (even vile people wanting to breed these poor tiny babies) can buy one w/a click of a mouse!
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I am doing something about it...& please don't call me names or tell me what to do, you're not my mother! Did you consider that the OP is advertising for this greeder, a puppy mill hiding behind the internet? She claims to be 'very selective to who I sell to', how is that possible when someone, anyone (even vile people wanting to breed these poor tiny babies) can buy one w/a click of a mouse!
Self righteous isn't a name, it's an emotion.

Does that make you everyone's mother then?

Doing something about it would be calling the ASPCA (or if you really hate her, PETA) and reporting the breeder if you thought her animals were being treated unethically. Or notifying the registry she is affiliated with. Anyone that would have been warned off by this thread would have been after 3 or 4 posts. 4 pages of them is just unnecessary.

And finally, why are you still trying to argue to me that this breeder isn't kosher? I said I wasn't defending them, nor would I buy from them. You're too busy arguing to listen. I agree with you that anyone who has a buy now button on their puppies just isn't right.
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I had a tiny little 4lb girl who was a rehome from a breeder like this. I saw what it can do to these poor little things. She lived to be only 7 years old because her little heart wore out way to soon. If you ever have a rescue or a "rehome" of one of these tiny little breeders you would be able to see why so many of us are against breeding tinies. I have a tiny one now but she was charted to be over 6lbs and didn't make it. It is just not worth the heartache watching them suffer just so you can say you have a "teacup" yorkie. Thank God Kyra is a very healthy little one but sadly when they are bred to be tiny on purpose that is not always the case. I hope if the OP is set on this little girl that she lives a very long life, I just personally would not buy from this breeder or any that bred dams that small.
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Self righteous isn't a name, it's an emotion.

Does that make you everyone's mother then?

Doing something about it would be calling the ASPCA (or if you really hate her, PETA) and reporting the breeder if you thought her animals were being treated unethically. Or notifying the registry she is affiliated with. Anyone that would have been warned off by this thread would have been after 3 or 4 posts. 4 pages of them is just unnecessary.

And finally, why are you still trying to argue to me that this breeder isn't kosher? I said I wasn't defending them, nor would I buy from them. You're too busy arguing to listen. I agree with you that anyone who has a buy now button on their puppies just isn't right.
Your also adding to the thread count continuing to go up . Your allowed to your opinions just like we are to ours. I have a dog who came from a puppy mill when she was a pup and once you have to see them suffer because the owners didn't care what two dogs they put together you have a hard time shutting up and almost can't!
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Even the best breeders out there can occasionally produce a smaller pup. Why not buy from them, knowing they are taking the absolute highest measure to insure the health of all dogs involved. Purposely breeding a "true tiny" to another "true tiny" is NOT ethical or encouraged. Dogs under 5 lbs should not be bred, period. Any person who uses the word teacup on their website is doing it as a marketing ploy, and why on earth would you be looking for a breeder like that? It's like a car salesman who is really good at his job,its the honest one, not the fake one with the big smile and looking to get the most money out of you.

A good breeder actually would sell a tiny cheaper considering if they are too small for show prospect, that is a flaw just as much as a dog too big for show. They would not be jacking the price up to $4000 because they KNOW how guillble people are, and how well "teacups" sell. That is greed!

And to whoever said "go put your efforts into stopping a byb instead" that is what we are trying to do here! Education is the best way to shut these greeders down! I can't tell you how.many times I've seen a new member of YT say wow, I didn't know the signs, what red flags to look for...now I know.
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this is my opinion, but most people I know would NEVER spend 3 grand to buy a puppy from someone that is breeding moms that are 3 lbs, one of the female breeders I believe was only 2.8 lbs. That is insane to breed a pup that is that small, pups bred that small intentionally have so many more health risks than pups bred to the standard. Let alone the risk you put the mom at. If someone has that much money to spend why not seek out a show breeder, I bet their pups might even be less money and chances for a healthy puppy are much greater.

Question for the OP, why are you buying from this breeder? are you looking for a 3 lb dog on purpose, if so I hope you are well aware of the risks, of course buying any puppy is always a risk, but some risks are greater than other. Also if you pick out a pup at 7 or 8 weeks, you really will not have any clue what it will look like as an adult.
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Wow I'm not a breeder but she has females that she breeds that are 3 pounds! That's nuts to me. And soooo many puppies! $4000 for a pet is a tad crazy to me too. Looks like a GREEDER not a breeder. IMO. But people keep buying from them that's why they sell em by the handfuls. Blows my mind.
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I had no idea you guys would react this way to this breeder. I thought I was making a good choice and she was a quality breeder. May have to re-think things but I honestly think my little girl is adorable and perfect in every way.

Sort of sorry I asked but good to know others opinions.
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If you look at the above or google anything Yorkie you will be directed to links here on YT. We are the largest Yorkie anything in the country. Here you will find thousands of threads regarding puppy mills, but even better most of us are unfortunately experienced and/or very educated regarding this topic.

We are not trying to hurt you, we are trying to tell you that this is a puppy mill/broker/etc. All of this breeders practices are completely unethical and there isn't a reputable breeder around that would vouch for her.

I understand your love for the little girl but if I ever say anything I can only tell you to run, run far away. My Mini is from a puppy mill, she is nothing but unhealthy...no hips I didn't know about until she was almost a year old, allergies so severe that she has not gone 3 months without medication, she gets shots weekly to help, she had an eye that a first glance nothing looked wrong, within days of bringing her home we were told her entire eye had to be reconstructed...$7000...in total we have spent over $25,000 on our Miss Mini and I absolutely am not exaggerating.....I wouldn't trade her for anything and am glad I was so ignorant/uneducated regarding puppymills etc....I am sure there are very few people who would do for her what my husband and I have done for her...

I will research this breeder for future visitors to this site...if your interested stay tuned, I'm pretty good at this...but, let me just tell you this breeder is not a maybe she is definitely a puppymiller...she even sells baby pigs....there is nothing ethical about this woman, do you really want to support her breeding program?
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