All those vets that examined Tibbe from age 9 mos. until he was re-examined this year at that scintigraphy test had all said he didn't have it his first 5 1/2 years of life. And now he does and he's had no injury, never limped or favored either leg in any way. But I knew he was from a not good situation when I got him and knew what I was likely getting into. But he was so damaged psychologically and behaviorally, I figured he'd be euthanized if someone else wound up with him so I took him.

I hope her LP are good...the other vet just said it was grade 1 she also said they could get tighter as she gets older

Its more then that

Mixes should be free or with a small adoption fee...........she will never build a reputation with people who are educated and know what a reputable breeder is. Its so sad you would pay that much for a mix pup when you can get a mixed breed at the shelters who will probably end up being put down because of breeders like her who just keep breeding more mixes. Makes me sick to my stomach.

LP was just an example there are so many other illnesses.

Yes but there are other VERY serious illness that can be passed through genetics that wont show up for a few years its not just LP.

Your little baby is beautiful. Nobody here has a problem with your precious girl; it's just breeders who are breeding these hybrid designer dogs to capitalize on the popularity of them without paying careful attention to the health and well being of these precious babies. I wanted a Yorkie because I love their temperament. I absolutely love everything about them. I got my little girl from a hobby show breeder who is a dog trainer. She puts her heart and soul into her dogs, and she does all of the important health tests. I knew that a Yorkie from her would look like the breed standard and also have a great Yorkie temperament. I knew she would also be very athletic, because that's what lines she tries to breed. I think the mixes are beautiful, too, but the problem is that you don't know what the dog is going to grow up looking like. My sister was given a Yorkiepoo after people bought the dog and decided a few days later they didn't want it. Greta is a sweetheart, but she looks nothing like a Yorkie and somewhat like a poodle. She's a great jdog, but who knows what genetic nightmares could turn up because they probably weren't genetically screened?

I'd suggest you get insurance for your pup so that, if anything comes up that your breeder refuses to cover, you won't have to worry about veterinary care. The LP might not be covered because it's now considered preexisting. It's likely it will go away if you properly exercise her and build up her muscles. Swimming is great for dogs with LP. Be careful on slippery floors, and don't let her jump from the furniture. I have a set of stairs by my bed.

I hope you and your puppy have a long, healthy, loving life together.

thanks lisaly

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Definitely worth the investment. I wouldn't ignore the concern of the one vet -- even if you didn't like her. You should remind your vet to check the knees at your annual visits. You may also want to do some research into the breeds related to your pup.

I wish the best for you and your puppy. Good luck.

Nobody is talking about the dogs of unscrupulous breeders lack of cuteness or sweetness or totally lovable qualities - just the huge amount of money these breeders are making using hype and glitzy sales techniques to talk a good game of all the wonders they have "created" and sell mix-breed puppies from untested breeding pairs for a lot of money that the dog really isn't worth compared to other exact mixes available everywhere. And then, should the dog develop severe symptoms from an inherited medical problem, say symptoms of liver shunt at age 3 years, that "wonderful breeder" rarely answers email, the phone or says anything except that there is no proof that the dog's problem was actually caused by the breeder and they have no liability in any way. It's been going on for years but the internet has just made the problem far worse by their idyllic websites tricked out in ridiculously cute pictures often Photoshopped, fairytale graphics and empty words puffing up usually factually false claims with absolutely no actual proof at all.

Still didn't answer my question. If your breeder is so good, what will she do when/if your puppy gets diagnosed with a congential defect?

And there you go. IF she wanted to, which she doesn't.

Please tag some more, she is not tagged enough for the search engines.

What does this mean?

Tagging

"Designer Hybrid Dog Breeder"...in other words "Purposeful Mutt Breeder who cares not for the standard as set forth by the AKC by which all breeders should be breeding their dogs to." Also known as: "Thing 1 and Thing 2 Provider - box not included"

I don't care how well known she is, or how many good reviews she has or how healthy her pups might be or how many testimonies there are about wonderful dogs she has bred.

A solid and reputable breeder is one who puts the breed they are concentrating their efforts on - at the forefront. A reputable breeder wants to preserve the breed and continue efforts to improve type, health and temperament.

I made the mistake of believing a breeder very similar to her 2 years ago, so I am outting myself here. Bella is a "morkie" AKA: pretty little word that means mutt. WE LOVE her with all that we are and we are SO blessed to have her in our lives, but she is a mutt and her breeder is not breeding for the betterment of any breed. I believed all the BS. We are extremely lucky to have a healthy dog, and I know that. NEVER again will I "fall for it" and I suggest you don't either. If you want the full story feel free to PM me.

Teacup when used by an "average joe" seems to be 'okay' in the eyes of some people, which is their prerogative. However, where did they hear that term? The only people who use that term in the dog world are the unscrupulous breeders who use it to advertise an underweight and most likely health-risk laden puppy.

yes but wat r u tagging?
For what. Reason?

Don't worry its not about YOU Amy, honestly. Its just so the thread shows up in search engines.

I love threads like this in many ways. They get so much good information dispensed that some might not ever see except as a by-product of the back-and-forth of a thread like this or a tag pulling it up in a Search engine. Here's hoping the discussions here can help get out a lot of good info about certain types of breeders and the dogs they "create" and the dangers of internet sales hype on tricked-out web sites trading in people's dreams. The truth is, often those dreams turn into nightmares when the the money is paid but dogs don't arrive at all, aren't as portrayed or develop any of the myriad of conformation/genetic health problems that unscrupulous breeding practices can produce.

Im new to this I didn't know that's wat tagging does that's y I asked

Don't feel bad, I'd been a member a long time before I realized there were things called "tags" but still had to ask what they were! And then I began to see them crop up on some threads and then even learned how to add one occasionally.

Nice tagging but we are still lacking a few key words!

Why are you still ignoring my question?

I tagged.

I tagged using terms from a website and its hype.

What, Priscilla? I didn't hear your question? :hide2: :D

:lol tears

I think I like your version better than the original.

What is the original one anyway?

lol - I didn't even notice "departed"! I like it!

The real original comes from a 16th century poem, by Thomas Tusser.


A foole & his money,
be soone at debate:
which after with sorow,
repents him to late.


It was later expressed as a proverb by Dr John Bridge in "Defense of the Government of the Church of England, in 1587:


If they pay a penie or two pence more for the reddinesse of them..let them looke to that, a foole and his money is soone parted.



(End of my useless knowledge post for today).