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Does she cross-breed ALL of those pups with Maltese, Yorkie, Llasa, & Chihuahua?! :confused: |
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I love all dogs ~ pedigree and mongrel ~ but I'd much rather save my pennies and find a good breeder and buy a pedigree puppy than a mixed one! Buying these mixes just encourages folk to destroy hundreds of years of careful breeding :mad: There are over 300+ pedigree breeds so WHY would anyone want to 'create' more other than just doing it for money! :mad: |
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Also I have a problem with this, taken directly from her site I have researched and studied several tiny toy dog breeds and combined AKC purebreds with: non-shedding, silky soft coats in many colors, large bright eyes with long lashes, doggy intelligence with a love of human attention and companionship, "big" round heads with black ball noses and black lips, and with selective breeding, I have eliminated bad bites, hip and skin problems, and even heart problems. Wow is she a geneticist ? She must be amazing educated to do this. I guess she does lots of testing. Just because you mix breeds together doesn't mean that you get rid of the medical issues a breed can have. Actually now the breed can have a combination of both breeds issues or if they have the same issue it can be a lot worse. This is so sad. |
She's just an immoral dog hater who worships at the alter of $$$$$$ :mad: |
shes actually a great breeder ive been to her house and i saw everything...plus i asked my vet and she mixed breed are alot healthier than pure breds alot of the time. Plus in reality there is not such thing as a pure bred it took several years of "mixed" breeding to get a poodle or a yorkie. I believe she would be trying to accomplish that. |
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From Dictionary.com: pure·bred [adj. pyoor-bred; n. pyoor-bred] Show IPA adjective 1. of or pertaining to an animal, all of whose ancestors derive over many generations from a recognized breed. noun 2. a purebred animal, especially one of registered pedigree. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Origin: 1865–70; pure + bred Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2013. |
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[QUOTE=Lovetodream88;4275867]First off the number one rule of reputable breeders is to better the breed when they are breeding mixes that is not happening so therefore they are not reputable breeders. Second your vet is VERY wrong and mixed breeds being healthier then pure breeds. Lots of pure breed dogs are being bred by horrible bad breeders therefor they are sick or have issues and sense there are more horrible breeders then reputable ones it make it look like the breed is sickly when that is not the case at all. !! |
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My bigger concern is that I'm certain that she has not TESTED her sires/dams for all the genetic problems that pop up in any of the purebreds she used as her foundation pairs. If you believe in this person so dearly, you should be able to ask her for the actual testing done on her breeding stock - and on any litter she's selling. So many of these smaller purebreds have problems that run in their breeding lines. Unless she acutally KNOWS the complete history of the lines she has mixed, then she knows nothing. BTW: In NJ, you can find lovely yorkies for the price she's asking for a mutt. This person is charging enough that she should be testing her litters for all the problems that may arise in smaller pure breeds. Good luck. |
A quote from this brilliant breeder of Angel Dogs: So she's a genius who's invented & perfected a new breed!? (They're registered & have a 3 year pedigree!) Here's her description of one of her pups: He's Color Is Going To Lighter Up Allot To A Beautiful Colors He's Hair Will Be Burgundy Browns With Silver Detailing At Maturity |
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AND she uses small breeds that could each have their own health/genetic issues. It's very unfortunate that the person is able to so blatantly mislead the public about what she's selling. Perhaps it's more unfortunate that some of the public can be so easily mislead.... |
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I wouldn't even consider this person, based on this quote from her web site alone!! Good God, wake up!! If you are so into mixed pups, ( I have nothing against them) go to a shelter, there are many mixed pups looking for a loving home....and for a fraction of the cost to boot! Sheesh! |
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LIFESTYLE PETS These new breed dogs are just mixed breed dogs just like the ones waiting for killing in city and town shelters all over the country because no one wants them. Rescues all over have dogs just like them all the time. But people go online and fall for the breeder's sale pitch because of a lot of hype and higher prices than the shelters charge. Maybe anyone wanting one of these new breed dogs can use a hypoallergenic cat from London? BTW, the Dateline show tracked the address of the online Allerca seller to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. Online sellers are not always what they say they are. |
we have to agree to disagree...but my point is if she wanted to make this a pure breed she would have to breed them for many generations to come (the rite way of course) and it would happen...thats my point... |
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Exactly what others are saying. I know it seems like a big deal now but if he ends up bigger than you expected it'll mean nothing to you later. Mine is 12.9 when last weighed a couple weeks ago. I got him expecting he'd get no more than 7 but he just wouldn't stop growing. Lol. I would trade him for another one and if I could turn back time I'd take him again. He still seems small to me. If yours ends up a tea pot, you'll see it won't matter anymore. It'll change your prospective a little bit too. :) |
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Just looked at her site. Her prices are outrageous! |
i already bought my puppy from her she healthy n all and i cant lie i cant say she isnt charing to much for dogs but there people out there charging triple for small mixed breeds. She told me she built her reputation and then starting charging that much...just like any akc breeder who starts out low until they build there name...the point is with her is that she charges 1500 for a girl and 1000 for a boy which is a big jump...they should both be the same |
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"A fool and his money are soon departed." Or something like that. |
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15 weeks y? |
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Edit: I'll give you an example. My Uni was diagnosed with Lp grade 2 and 3 when she was 3.5 years old. Surgery going rate is about $2000-3000 per knee with a healing time of 8 weeks. |
Im not saying LP isnt a congenital defect but ive had a Bichon show breeder tell me that its not necessarily a congenital disease...unless you knew for certain she had it from when ur dog was pup... |
If the groove is shallow/narrow but not to a great degree to allow slippage yet, the ligaments too long or weak or the patella malformed, the subluxation may not develop until later in some dogs after more wear and tear or an injury to any part of the knee mechanism. I understand not all dogs have it to the degree that it shows up in puppyhood - that their defects that can lead to it take some time to develop into LP. I know every single vet that examined Tibbe when I got him at 9 mos. of age - said he had no LP - a total of 5 in all - and yet when he had his scintigraphy this spring, the 2 vets that did a PE on him said he had a mild form of it bilaterally as of age 5. |
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i went to two different vets one was my vet the other was when i was away so i dont know how good she is...My vet said her Knees are good...the one vet i saw when i was away said one knee is luxating but the way she did it was to force (pop it) the knee cap out! which i was so annoyed about bec thats not normal... other than that Zoey never showed any signs of it out of the month ive had her |
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