Tear Stains?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Jaedawn

Well I feed mine Royal Cannin Yorkie junior. It is specially made for Yorkshire Terriers. I am in UK so we are a bit limited. When I first got her the breeder had her on Pedigree dry mixed with wet. She was having issues with diarrhea and vet said to only feed dry kibble and she along with several others said that the Royal Cannin was one of the best. I will admit it smells wonderful... kind of like chocolate meat ... sorry I love chocolate. I know I would never ever give it or let Tali have access to chocolate ... but I can't say the same for myself.

I have been giving her just tap water and here it has a large amount of limescale in the water. So much so that if you don't descale regularly you will need to replace any appliance that uses the water mains: washing machine, dishwasher, kettle, and coffee machine. I haven't seen distilled water for sale here but then again they may call it something different that I am unaware of (sometimes confusing being American here same language but so different ). Been here 10 years and still learn a new word for things every once and a while .

I will see about the water but worse case scenerio would be give her Evian if I can't find distilled. Thanks about the Q-tip trick I will definately use that. Tali's tear stain isn't crusty just wet but since she is young don't want it to stain her face. My mom had a poodle that had tear stained face and I always thought she would look so much better without it but my mom said that was just how they were and you just had to live with it. I am not good with that assessment ... I am just as stubborn as a Yorkie

If you have lots of minerals in your water, it might help to use distilled water. Distillation takes out the minerals, and this is sometimes called “purified” water. You can often find this in the baby department, and its water meant to be mixed with formula. Sometimes they have added a few minerals back and this is okay too, it’s just the abundance of minerals that seem to bother some dogs. Long term use of distilled water is not recommended, and I found this helped Joey when he was a puppy, but by the time he was one, I was able to switch back to tap water. Teething can cause tearing. Some regular bottled waters may or may not work, they might have fewer minerals than your tap water, but most of them are just “filtered” water and don’t remove minerals. Minerals actually are good for us and make the water taste better.

If the hair is staining, it may indicate there’s a yeast infection, does it smell funny? Yeast infections can develop if the hair is wet too long, and so it helps to eliminate the cause of the tears.

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I just finished a study that inferes the increase in autism is directly based on the use of pesticides in our foods, dyes and.preservatives...not to mention other health issues.

It really scares me to know we play around with know harmful substances especially in our foods, I'm all for scientific advance just not at the expense of lets do it not inderstand it and see what goes wrong later!!!

I mean we still have kids toys with lead paint, cloths and household cloths (our pillows) that are soaked in neurotoxins, because we will burn fractions of seconds slower...the logic illudes me. I can't even get started on the addatives to medicines and supposed vitamin health substances! Scary scary scary.

Personally after making an major organic concious effort, we don't get sivk as much or have as much allergy like issues here.

At our multi specialty clinic a person needing to see an allergist had to wait up to a year for an appointment at times. There are not enough allergists to go around and the need for them is so great. So many strange and horrible reactions in both children and adults these days. It is very scary. Many times they cannot find ways to treat them. And that is just one aspect of this problem.

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

If you have lots of minerals in your water, it might help to use distilled water. Distillation takes out the minerals, and this is sometimes called “purified” water. You can often find this in the baby department, and its water meant to be mixed with formula. Sometimes they have added a few minerals back and this is okay too, it’s just the abundance of minerals that seem to bother some dogs. Long term use of distilled water is not recommended, and I found this helped Joey when he was a puppy, but by the time he was one, I was able to switch back to tap water. Teething can cause tearing. Some regular bottled waters may or may not work, they might have fewer minerals than your tap water, but most of them are just “filtered” water and don’t remove minerals. Minerals actually are good for us and make the water taste better.

If the hair is staining, it may indicate there’s a yeast infection, does it smell funny? Yeast infections can develop if the hair is wet too long, and so it helps to eliminate the cause of the tears.

There are many minerals that our bodies need and are very good for us. The type of mineral in most waters are not of any nutritional value. They are contaminates like the stuff that some people have to scrub off their bath tub walls. We need water to live but it's nutritional value is zero.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by gracielove

At our multi specialty clinic a person needing to see an allergist had to wait up to a year for an appointment at times. There are not enough allergists to go around and the need for them is so great. So many strange and horrible reactions in both children and adults these days. It is very scary. Many times they cannot find ways to treat them. And that is just one aspect of this problem.

My youngest can't have any nonorganic dairy...he's allergic to the antibiotics used on the cows, we gad to do quite a bit of research before realizing the yogurt we were giving him was the cause and not an actual food or dairy allergy.


Thankfully we found Happy Baby Melts to replace the Gerber yogurt melts.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by gracielove

There are many minerals that our bodies need and are very good for us. The type of mineral in most waters are not of any nutritional value. They are contaminates like the stuff that some people have to scrub off their bath tub walls. We need water to live but it's nutritional value is zero.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here, don't have time to find lots of links, but it your interested, you can look up the term "long term effects of drinking distilled water." Here's one article Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water. Calcium while not good for our shower walls can be really good for us. In the olden days water was "purified" by going over rocks in a rushing stream, this water had plenty of minerals and was safe to drink, but you again you wouldn't want it on you shower doors. While there are other contaminates in drinking water, I don't believe you can call minerals a "contaminate."

[concretegurl]

I'm glad this has come up, I'd assume intaking these minerals in another way would be fine but it seems this should be looked into.

Personally we use a local spring water, since the city added fluoride back into our tap water...I don't like the taste of the water from the zero filter its weird to me.

[Coton Momma]

I don't like the taste of the Zero filter either. It is very.... flat? The dogs seem to like it fine though. I am lucky that our local tap water tests very low for impurities. It also tastes GREAT. I recently bought a bottle of water while I was out and to me it was yucky.

[Jaedawn]

As I was raised in the U.S. I know there you can get different kinds of water from the filtered to distilled. Here I haven't found any except mineral water (Evian type). I have double checked on one of our big brand grocery stores (tesco.com) and they don't have anything named nursery water and when you type just water you get mineral, still, tonic and seltzer type. Here is a bit different and being American born trying to figure out the "different" name but same product can be a bit difficult. So not sure what it would be here.

And I completely agree with you about the contamination of food sources. Here in the UK they are doing similar as the U.S. but not as much in someways. Personally I think that is part of the bee issue and why we are having issues with bee's. In the UK rapeseed is a huge crop and bee keepers are really complaining because when the do the comb it can harden so much that it destroys the whole colony. And this only happens when there is a rapeseed field within their area.

It is scary ... really would like to move so that I can grow my own and grow old heritage types of plants and rotate etc. So I can make sure that what I am eating is organic as you can. Someday

If anyone here (UK) knows the name of the water for distilled so that I can try to feed my new puppy that so that the tear staining will be gazumped before it really starts Thanks soooo much!

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by Jaedawn

As I was raised in the U.S. I know there you can get different kinds of water from the filtered to distilled. Here I haven't found any except mineral water (Evian type). I have double checked on one of our big brand grocery stores (tesco.com) and they don't have anything named nursery water and when you type just water you get mineral, still, tonic and seltzer type. Here is a bit different and being American born trying to figure out the "different" name but same product can be a bit difficult. So not sure what it would be here.

And I completely agree with you about the contamination of food sources. Here in the UK they are doing similar as the U.S. but not as much in someways. Personally I think that is part of the bee issue and why we are having issues with bee's. In the UK rapeseed is a huge crop and bee keepers are really complaining because when the do the comb it can harden so much that it destroys the whole colony. And this only happens when there is a rapeseed field within their area.

It is scary ... really would like to move so that I can grow my own and grow old heritage types of plants and rotate etc. So I can make sure that what I am eating is organic as you can. Someday

If anyone here (UK) knows the name of the water for distilled so that I can try to feed my new puppy that so that the tear staining will be gazumped before it really starts Thanks soooo much!

We have had honey bee issues here as well. I haven't read about it in a while but the last I knew it was a mystery as to why they were just disappearing. Which brings up the subject of all the huge numbers of bird and fish kills as well. Thousands at a time just drop dead. No good explanation of course. Some government "experts" were saying it was really very common but it's just being reported more now. I don't believe that at all.

As far as getting minerals. I would much rather get my minerals from natural vegetables and fruits rather than contaminated water sources. There are very few water sources that are not contaminated anymore. Just one of the reasons that cities put chlorine in their water. There are more dangerous elements in water than helpful, like the chemicals from fertilizers leeching into the water supplies as well as what some industries have disposed of illegally and has gotten into the water supplies. They are finding arsenic in so many things we eat and drink these days, including various water sources. I was just watching another "expert" on some news show today talking about the arsenic levels that they have found in apple juice. She said it was noting to worry about. Not enough to be harmful. Sure! Just keep giving your kids their arsenic laced apple juice everyday and think nothing of it. Why are we finding arsenic in so many places? Apple juice and water they are telling us are natural sources of arsenic! Something is not right here. Maybe the birds and fish that have been dying just finally got enough arsenic! Just a joke, but it sure is suspicious.

We still have some small farms around here that do farm the old fashioned way. The thing is you have to buy enough supplies to last until next year. I taught myself to can foods years ago when I had a backyard garden but I try to freeze as much as I can because freezing maintains the nutrients better. All this mass production of food has turned into a nightmare for people that realize what is going on. Is it any wonder that so many Americans are so sick?

Water, well, tap: nutritional value and analysis

[RammaJ]

I read on here a long time ago about giving Gerber Baby water, which is sold in Walmart for $1.00 a gallon. I started using that and My Pierre has no more teary eyes.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by RammaJ

I read on here a long time ago about giving Gerber Baby water, which is sold in Walmart for $1.00 a gallon. I started using that and My Pierre has no more teary eyes.

That's what I used for Joey and it cleared it up overnight. One day his tears returned and I asked my husband about it and he admitted to giving him regular tap water the day before. I changed his water and his eyes cleared up again. Every month I would do a test and finally I was able to use tap water without the tearing problem. It wasn't until I did a food change, that the tears returned, but this time it was brown and goopy and much worse. I changed back to his regular food and the tearing went away. He's been dry eyed for several years now.

[Oddsock]

Originally Posted by Jaedawn

As I was raised in the U.S. I know there you can get different kinds of water from the filtered to distilled. Here I haven't found any except mineral water (Evian type). I have double checked on one of our big brand grocery stores (tesco.com) and they don't have anything named nursery water and when you type just water you get mineral, still, tonic and seltzer type. Here is a bit different and being American born trying to figure out the "different" name but same product can be a bit difficult. So not sure what it would be here.

And I completely agree with you about the contamination of food sources. Here in the UK they are doing similar as the U.S. but not as much in someways. Personally I think that is part of the bee issue and why we are having issues with bee's. In the UK rapeseed is a huge crop and bee keepers are really complaining because when the do the comb it can harden so much that it destroys the whole colony. And this only happens when there is a rapeseed field within their area.

It is scary ... really would like to move so that I can grow my own and grow old heritage types of plants and rotate etc. So I can make sure that what I am eating is organic as you can. Someday

If anyone here (UK) knows the name of the water for distilled so that I can try to feed my new puppy that so that the tear staining will be gazumped before it really starts Thanks soooo much!

If you put 'where can I get distilled water in the UK' into Google you get options that may help.
ie.. Distilled Water : UK Chemical Suppliers, Buy Chemicals Online

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Oddsock

If you put 'where can I get distilled water in the UK' into Google you get options that may help.
ie.. Distilled Water : UK Chemical Suppliers, Buy Chemicals Online

Just want to add that not all distilled water is safe for drinking. Some is meant for equipment like steam irons. The problem is twofold, the water is often bottled in plastic that is not meant for drinking water (some plastic has chemicals that are carcinogenic) and secondly even distilled water can grow bacteria, whereas water meant for drinking has an “expired date” So look for distilled or purified water that says, "Safe for Drinking."

[concretegurl]

Ugh I don't love it but you have Tesco there they sell nursery water it's distilled.

[Oddsock]

Would this help ?
ZD- 013 Pitcher Filter 8 Cup: Amazon.co.uk:...