wont listen

[kikil]

I don't remember her name right off hand. I don't see her that much in there when we go in there for other things. lot of the time was on class night.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by kikil

she was in the next room under the bed that night. but lot of time she not that far from or we are in the same room when I do try and call here. not that often we use other room to call her. only to see where she at but we don't make her come in the room since we know she don't like the kitchen any more. if we really want her in that room we just go pick her up if she don't come in. since she don't like the nose in that room any more and too the floor is to slipper for her at time too.

Sorry to be a while responding - been so busy!

If you really are serious about wanting to train her to come to you when she doesn't want to, you have to make it just about impossible for her to resist the "come" command so that it will become "rote" or automatic to her when she hears the word. When she hides, you cannot expect a dog who is not listening to you at times, misbehaving & biting (as your other thread has said), to come when called from another room - especially as she knows you occasionally are tired & a bit cranky at bedtime. You will have to overcome that & stop that or she will never ever come.

Don't feed her near bedtime while you are training her to come at bedtime. Feed her earlier in the afternoon so that she is empty at bedtime. When she hides under the bed, take that warm chicken/food treat into the room where she is, say "come" in a smiling voice & wave it under the bed then lure her out, loop a leash over her head & lead her on out. Shut the door behind you & praise her/reward her with that chicken. Eventually, if you repeat that enough, she will start to readily come out if she is no longer scared & if she gets a high-value reward - not just any old treat. No matter how tired you might be, you have to stay patient with her if she won't come out at first. She might be scared to come out at first so you have got to wait her out, staying calm & up-beat as you wait. It's just that simple. Calling her from another room when she doesn't want to come or when you are tired & she can expect some shouting from past experience, will rarely bring good results. Your physical presence right there near her, reassuring her, will start to teach her this is a "new" mommie who now is not mad at her because she doesn't always come, teaching her you are there, being nice, sitting by this bed she's hiding under & you are acting nice - and she has food I may get. She will begin to learn that the come command will get her a wonderful food reward - and remember, she is hungry from eating way earlier. That's one way to train her to do what you want.

We've all given you some ideas in other posts about what to do when she won't obey a command so now you need to go practice them. Stay patient & calm & loving & happy.

Remember, she doesn't speak your language, only your actions & reactions & rewards or good or bad experiences will teach her the "meaning" of some words you say. The word "come" has to mean good things only to her. If you teach it right & keep refreshing that training throughout her life, she will be an obedient dog.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by kikil

all I know the book is yorkie what I got at petsmart. and last month my aunt got a megs just about yorkie. and the trainer we used was at petsmart. we took the same class 2time. and she couldn't get her to stop the bitting and she was going to ask other trainer she knew and emailed me but I never gotting anything from her and thats been over a month now. in class she would listen some but not much.

Those general books about the Yorkshire Terrier or Petsmart trainers probably don't give you the foundational knowledge of what you need to understand about a dog to really prepare you how to successfully train one - or it would be working better for you. Go online & get a book about dog training from a successful dog trainer like Victoria Stillwell who will teach you how a dog thinks & what works, won't work with a "hard-headed" dog or one that "won't listen". Since you have a problem with the dog always responding or misbehavior, what you have been doing teaching her has to be rethought & retrained. If you don't learn what to do yourself when she won't respond or misbehaves, unless you are ready to pay a reputable dog trainer a good bit of money to train your dog & you, your dog will probably stay the same.

I have never worked with an untrainable dog except a Yorkie that was actually brain-damaged I had as a rescue - and even she learned some things while I had her.

[kikil]

we do feed her early she eat her dinner when we eat ours if she hungery. she never eat at the sametime it's not that we don't try to she just don't want to eat at that time I guess. the other night I didn't say anything to her about going to bed. I just taking things back to my room and doing what I need to be done. and she heard a noise that the phone made that night and I turned around and she as out and she let me pick her up. but the thing of it is she don't go under the bed all the time just every now and then too.

[kikil]

we did get a yorkie book from petsmart it just told the history and few other things that we need to do or to look out maybe few other things. and we did have a dog trainer at petsmart. but she couldn't get her to stop the bitting I have tryed things she said might work on her. but it just didn't seem to work. but I just might look for the book u just said and see if that just don't help. but I do know that the book that I got did have a dvd that does teach u on how to train ur yorkie I started to watch it one day. but I didn't watch much of it since something got me off trake or something else. I am not to sure if that was the day the computer went off or the power where I could't watch it and after that I forgot all about it and I am not to sure where it is at. but I just might look for it and see what else it said on there to do too. but I will keep that book in my mind too.

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by kikil

we did get a yorkie book from petsmart it just told the history and few other things that we need to do or to look out maybe few other things. and we did have a dog trainer at petsmart. but she couldn't get her to stop the bitting I have tryed things she said might work on her. but it just didn't seem to work. but I just might look for the book u just said and see if that just don't help. but I do know that the book that I got did have a dvd that does teach u on how to train ur yorkie I started to watch it one day. but I didn't watch much of it since something got me off trake or something else. I am not to sure if that was the day the computer went off or the power where I could't watch it and after that I forgot all about it and I am not to sure where it is at. but I just might look for it and see what else it said on there to do too. but I will keep that book in my mind too.

Did you study dog star daily that I gave you the link to on the other thread you posted in the training area?

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by kikil

we did get a yorkie book from petsmart it just told the history and few other things that we need to do or to look out maybe few other things. and we did have a dog trainer at petsmart. but she couldn't get her to stop the bitting I have tryed things she said might work on her. but it just didn't seem to work. but I just might look for the book u just said and see if that just don't help. but I do know that the book that I got did have a dvd that does teach u on how to train ur yorkie I started to watch it one day. but I didn't watch much of it since something got me off trake or something else. I am not to sure if that was the day the computer went off or the power where I could't watch it and after that I forgot all about it and I am not to sure where it is at. but I just might look for it and see what else it said on there to do too. but I will keep that book in my mind too.

You have many posts about your dog's lack of discipline & misbehavior but I can't see that you really have a good foundation in training as none of us does starting out. We all start from scratch & the first one is frustrating! I've read many posts by you on why nothing anybody suggests works with your dog. Ha! If I had had access to a computer back when I started out, I would have posted those same posts!!! Nothing worked for my dog! Finally, with time, I figured out - it wasn't the dog at all - it was me - I couldn't train! I had to educate myself through reading & research how to do it & believe me, there wasn't a lot of training help back then on every TV station & no online help. I had to read books as we didn't have any audio training books then. But I learned & now, there is no physically healthy dog I can't train.

Teach yourself how to do it right. The little research & education you have had aren't sufficient as yet. You have to learn lots more. You can maybe even go to the local library & check out a good dog training book or audio book on positive-reinforcement dog training & behavior modification & read it or listen to the entire thing all the way through & then begin it all over from basic training to specific training to come from hiding spots, etc. It's all up to you now. I'd start with somebody like Victoria Stillwell & branch out from there. Boy, I wish I lived closer to you - I'd really enjoy working with you & your little baby. We would have fun.

[gracielove]

It is true. A good dog trainer will tell you they are not really training the dog they are training the people. The dog cannot be any better than the one that is teaching them. You cannot try something a couple of times and say it does not work. The things you have been told about are proven methods of training. But it takes consistent repetition. Doing it over and over with kindness and patience. You don't seem be doing that. Your dog is not stupid. She sounds bored and does not understand what you expect of her. Putting a treat in her cage before you put her in it will make her think of her cage as a good thing instead of a punishment. You cannot play rough with her and not expect her to bite at you. You want to keep her calm so she has no desire to bite at you. Get some 2" balls and teach her to play fetch. That is a good game you can play inside that will help tire her out.

[kikil]

no I haven't study the dog star daily. I will look at it later tonight if I can.

[kikil]

yeah it would be nice if u was and maybe u could see what I am doing wrong. at time I just think she want to do what she want on her own. and too she think that she the main dog not me. but I have tryed to make it look like I am the main one not her. but it don't work. but I will keep trying everything and look for the books and see which one that will work for us. and see if the book is online where I could check it out some more. I just wish I knew what I could be doing that is wrong.

[kikil]

I am not the one that want to play rough with her. I throw things for her to run after or tug a war with her sometime. but I do keep telling her over and over no bit even mom has said it so has dad but that don't seem to work. but when u tell her down sometime that does work but we do point down and that does kind of help some of the time. I guess I just have to start from the bening with her. find all the papers that I got from the classes and start useing them again and see what work and what don't work for sure with us. since I can't find a good trainer around here yet but I am not going to stop looking for one of them. I might look for some good books on train yorkie and see if that don't work but either way I am not going to give up I don't want her to be like this when she over a year old or even 2 years.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by kikil

yeah it would be nice if u was and maybe u could see what I am doing wrong. at time I just think she want to do what she want on her own. and too she think that she the main dog not me. but I have tryed to make it look like I am the main one not her. but it don't work. but I will keep trying everything and look for the books and see which one that will work for us. and see if the book is online where I could check it out some more. I just wish I knew what I could be doing that is wrong.

Oh, I'd enjoy working with you & your little one! You would have fun - & so would your baby.

Start studying & you will find out what you are doing right & wrong. I know you don't believe that now - but it is true! Teach right and the dog learns right. Read them all the way through - one part can affect another lesson in another section. Read all you can. Best of luck to you.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Have you ever watched the Victoria Stillwell TV shows about dog training? They are a poor stopgap to me & don't teach you as a good teaching book will but the first few years she did those are really fun to watch & you can see how well training can work. The series is called "It's Me Or The Dog". If you can rent, DVR or watch any of those, it would inspire you & show you a few things but reading a good training book to get some real canine insight will be your best bet.

[kikil]

I sure will read everything before starting something new with her and make sure she really know what I am teaching her first. I work on one thing for a long time now not just a week or less that might have something to do with it.

[kikil]

no I haven't seen the show Victoria Stillwell TV shows and too I don't think we have it on around here that I know of. I have heared of It's Me Or The Dog but I haven't find it on. but thats been a while since I heard anything of it. but I will watch the dvd that come with the book from petsmart that we got last year. but the things I have to find the dvd first. I just hope that I can find it.