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Old 06-19-2012, 05:48 PM   #16
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but I do give good reward everytime she does something good. and she know it I am not the only one that give her that. and we do work on the coming everyday it may not be for a long time everyday. just depeond what going for the day and how tired she is from the day. but either way we do work on it and play. I don't think she is scared of me that I am doing something wrong. she just started this on sunday. while I am gone for a while she wont go to the poted on the puppy pad for my parents. so she just wait for me to come home and that hours since I don't get home till 2 something sometime. but I do take her before I leave
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:49 PM   #17
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Awh I see. Well to be blunt all time is training time :-) At night given her history, don't ask her to come to be put in her crate; just go and pick her up and put her in her crate.

And if you do want her in the room you are in; just go to where she is at and pick her up, and love her, while you take her to the room you are in.

How-ever I will say, with my dogs, I've not ever had to worry about them being with me in a room; mostly and NOT always they are with me where ever I am. When they are not with me, and I know they are safe, I just let them have a little space from me.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:56 PM   #18
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yes she can hear. she hear when my dad come in. and they checked her hears and they never said anything was wrong with them. at first mom thought that but when we did something that mad a sound and she hear it and she came running in
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:20 PM   #19
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If she is a normal dog, she is going to respond to you if you will learn how to train properly and then actually train that way at least twice a day - more if you can. If you work, you can get in extra sessions weekends & holidays. You might want to have her vet checked to be sure she is normal as to her response to others' direction(calling her, etc.) & has no problems. If she is normal, once you learn how to train properly, are systematically teaching her you are the leader in your team & step-by-step approach both with a plan, she will begin to respond to you. Even at night, she will come - but you have to work up to her responding first to the easy things & then eventually she will learn to even come even when she doesn't want to and in fact is having a ball doing something else.

When you learn how to train properly, she will respond. Even "hard-headed" dogs learn when trained properly by a person they see as a leader. Every good, successful trainer says they must first train the owner how to train.

What books have you read on positive training? What have you learned about the concept behind it? Reading about training and leadership - or listening to an audio book, on training dogs from someone like Victoria Stillwell will teach you & set you up for success with her. There are many books teaching positive reinforcement.

If she is normal & healthy, it really is up to you whether or not she responds correctly to you. There really is no magic bullet, special secrets or simple answer to dogs who want to be boss, fail to respond to commands or are hard-headed other than learn how to train correctly, go step at a time, train several times a day with love, patience & fun and keep it up.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:21 PM   #20
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she does do the sit and down just fine. I have giving her trest when she come or hugs and lot of loving. lot of the time I think it has to do with her mood. she use to like comig into the kitchen but since there been a lot of noise or things have falling that has scared her and the floor is kind of slipper so it hard for her to walk. but if I carrier in she will stay in there for a long time while we are in there. thats where her water is. but she does get a lot of water at one time too.
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I do give her something when she does come. we say we have food or something for her sometime that works and other time nope not going to have that
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but with go pick her up is kind of hard to do when she go and hide under my parents bed. she did that last night to me. no matter how much we called her name we couldn't get her where I could get a hold of her. so I just give up and let her be and left my door open where she could get in her bed. I don't know how long before she did finle came in and went to her bed.
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but with go pick her up is kind of hard to do when she go and hide under my parents bed. she did that last night to me. no matter how much we called her name we couldn't get her where I could get a hold of her. so I just give up and let her be and left my door open where she could get in her bed. I don't know how long before she did finle came in and went to her bed.
What do the training books say to do when your dog won't come?
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she is normal and healthy nothing wrong with her. we have a yorkie book I just don't know the name of it right off hand. and I know how to do the puppy classes at petsmart thats where we had 2 of the same class. and I have try to tell her I am the boss not her but that just don't work.
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I don't remember right of hand but I have read so many different things. one thing said do it one way and other said don't do it this way so I never know which one to listen to this day or don't know what is the right thing to do.
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I don't remember right of hand but I have read so many different things. one thing said do it one way and other said don't do it this way so I never know which one to listen to this day or don't know what is the right thing to do.
Anytime a dog is not under the bed because it is fearful & just not well-trained enough to respond even when it doesn't want to respond, increase the reward to something it can't ignore. And get yourself ready to be a patient trainer. Go warm a piece of chicken or hot dog & hold it under the bed so she can get a whiff, have a looped leash ready to slip over her head & lure her out. Unless she is afraid, she will come out - eventually. If she's full from a fresh meal or something, she may not come out right then, but this is where a good trainer will sit there until she is empty & hungry or bored enough to come out. I mean that. This is where one learns the meaning of patience. Take a book with you if you are going to wait a dog out. Once she does emerge for her reward, gently leash her & take her out, close the door so she can't return. Once you are out of the room, praise her & take her to your room & prevent her leaving until she is better trained.

Some say move the bed or go after the dog under the bed, leash her & gently pull her out. If your parents are visiting & then need to get to sleep, you will need to move the bed & get her out - this time - or leave her. Neither is a good alternative with a poorly trained or scared dog. I prefer the waiting game myself as few can pull off physically removing a hiding dog without getting a little impatient when digging the dog out & it tends to set things way back in training. And I have sat waiting by a bed while the clock ticked even when I had to work the next morning - just not with my parents in it!

However, if she is kind of scared of you under that bed & hears a touch of impatience in your voice, you get mad because she wouldn't come or something, she will stay under that bed likely for hours on end, no matter how wonderful the treat. If your parents aren't there, you will just need to sit there & wait until she is so tired of staying under there, she has to come out. But you can't get mad - even when hours later she does emerge. Just leash her, lead her out, close the door & praise.

In the future, don't give her access to their room or anywhere she tends to hide while in training & especially at night. Close doors, block places off so she cannot hide from you. Later, when she is better trained, wait until she is very hungry, block most of the floor off under the bed so she can only get under it a little, put her under the bed, call her, offer the high-value treat & praise her when she does come out. Keep repeating this lesson a few times a week so that she will learn to come to you from hiding places.

Some trainers say leash the dog before placing it into a hiding place to train it to come when called, pulling if it doesn't, but I prefer not to pull a dog out & just wait. I think it teaches a better lesson to have it voluntarily come out.

You can adapt any method to best suit you & your dog but basic training & teaching her to come from hiding places with high-value treats & patience will pay off over time & one day, could save her life.

Best of luck & start re-reading those books & following through with what they teach.
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I couldn't move the bed to get her out since they was in bed and dad was asleep. I did wait it out but I was just in other room doing it. when I am really tired thats when I get mad or just tired of yelling at or trying to get her before she go back under the bed.

I don't think that she is scared of me. if she is I don't know about it. lot of the time she will just walk to me and let me pick her up when I am in the chair in my parent room and lay there and watch tv with us. she just don't want to do it around bed time. and lot of the time we try to put her in the bed/pen before bed time or she does just go in on her own when she really tired. but she don't do it to often. lot of time she just go after dad and try to get him to play or some more loving I guess.
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What were you using to lure her from the other room?
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just about every room from the house.
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just about every room from the house.
I meant what treat or toy were you using to lure her out from under the bed.
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