Regarding negativity at YT, and what is expected going forward

[Britster]

I still log on almost every day but it certainly doesn't feel the same. Even when I joined in 2008, it's changed a lot since then. I admit that I was always really oblivious to the drama I would see going on in the past, and never knew who said what or why, etc, but in the past 6 months, I HAVE noticed a different vibe. And then at one point, I somehow was part of drama, and there was a point when I did almost leave. I actually was in tears once and I was just done. However, I get bored... LOL, so I still pop in. And honestly, that's kind of sad... the main reason I come here is out of boredom or procrastinating, not so much for the friends or the good convos anymore. And I too was often afraid to post certain things anymore because to me, it wasn't even worth it to deal with. So I ended up just being like "screw it..." and posting anyways. But yep, I was very apprehensive to post certain things, and sometimes I would post things thinking they were fine and then be amazed when people would find an issue with it. So now I am just speaking my mind I guess.

Overall, I had to look at the big picture. And realize that only a few are not going to spoil it for me. And it sucks that a lot of posters I used to love and post a lot are not here anymore... so to me, the forum is getting very repetitive... newbies coming on asking the same questions over and over again, which is GREAT! We have to have new people, I was once one asking these questions, but I loved the comradery that also existed at the same time and I don't feel it's there so much anymore. Definitely just a different vibe to me... but it's okay, things change, people change, medicine changes, opinions change, people grow... It happens. I hope to stick around for a while here even if I don't post as much.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Britster

I still log on almost every day but it certainly doesn't feel the same. Even when I joined in 2008, it's changed a lot since then. I admit that I was always really oblivious to the drama I would see going on in the past, and never knew who said what or why, etc, but in the past 6 months, I HAVE noticed a different vibe. And then at one point, I somehow was part of drama, and there was a point when I did almost leave. I actually was in tears once and I was just done. However, I get bored... LOL, so I still pop in. And honestly, that's kind of sad... the main reason I come here is out of boredom or procrastinating, not so much for the friends or the good convos anymore. And I too was often afraid to post certain things anymore because to me, it wasn't even worth it to deal with. So I ended up just being like "screw it..." and posting anyways. But yep, I was very apprehensive to post certain things, and sometimes I would post things thinking they were fine and then be amazed when people would find an issue with it. So now I am just speaking my mind I guess.

Overall, I had to look at the big picture. And realize that only a few are not going to spoil it for me. And it sucks that a lot of posters I used to love and post a lot are not here anymore... so to me, the forum is getting very repetitive... newbies coming on asking the same questions over and over again, which is GREAT! We have to have new people, I was once one asking these questions, but I loved the comradery that also existed at the same time and I don't feel it's there so much anymore. Definitely just a different vibe to me... but it's okay, things change, people change, medicine changes, opinions change, people grow... It happens. I hope to stick around for a while here even if I don't post as much.

Im sorry you feel that way I miss your posts. I do see some negativety on here however not as much as it used to e. I know Ive had to learn to tone down my posts so hopefully everyone takes this reminder in the spirit it was given and not post negatively

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Britster

I still log on almost every day but it certainly doesn't feel the same. Even when I joined in 2008, it's changed a lot since then. I admit that I was always really oblivious to the drama I would see going on in the past, and never knew who said what or why, etc, but in the past 6 months, I HAVE noticed a different vibe. And then at one point, I somehow was part of drama, and there was a point when I did almost leave. I actually was in tears once and I was just done. However, I get bored... LOL, so I still pop in. And honestly, that's kind of sad... the main reason I come here is out of boredom or procrastinating, not so much for the friends or the good convos anymore. And I too was often afraid to post certain things anymore because to me, it wasn't even worth it to deal with. So I ended up just being like "screw it..." and posting anyways. But yep, I was very apprehensive to post certain things, and sometimes I would post things thinking they were fine and then be amazed when people would find an issue with it. So now I am just speaking my mind I guess.

Overall, I had to look at the big picture. And realize that only a few are not going to spoil it for me. And it sucks that a lot of posters I used to love and post a lot are not here anymore... so to me, the forum is getting very repetitive... newbies coming on asking the same questions over and over again, which is GREAT! We have to have new people, I was once one asking these questions, but I loved the comradery that also existed at the same time and I don't feel it's there so much anymore. Definitely just a different vibe to me... but it's okay, things change, people change, medicine changes, opinions change, people grow... It happens. I hope to stick around for a while here even if I don't post as much.

This pretty much describes how I feel, too.

Actually Brit, I've wanted to apologize to you for a long time. I saw how you were being talked to, how badly you were being treated and I should have stepped in to back you up. I agreed with your points and your right to feel as you did but I was so tired of feeling beaten on myself that I stayed away and let you stand alone. I'm sorry.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Taken in perspective though, the large, large majority of the posts on YT are fine and even though they may be negative in response to what someone says in that one does not agree, most are not ad hominem attacks, especially snide or vindictive. Those are usually few by comparison given the total current posts at any given moment in time. If a thread gets too heated or personal, I largely ignore it and go on to all the other ones. I need the information and advice I find here for my dog. I would never think of leaving the entire forum based on some of the posts on some of the threads.

[Baby Blessing]

Originally Posted by BonBon

This pretty much describes how I feel, too.

Actually Brit, I've wanted to apologize to you for a long time. I saw how you were being talked to, how badly you were being treated and I should have stepped in to back you up. I agreed with your points and your right to feel as you did but I was so tired of feeling beaten on myself that I stayed away and let you stand alone. I'm sorry.

Bon I have stayed away from the negative postings but I just read what you posted and wanted to tell you what a nice thing to say to Brit, it takes a real big heart to do that and the wonderful lady you are, but you know we have always enjoyed our many postings with you and I am happy Ann did this thread hopefully it will bring people together, as it should
Hugs, Patti and Jack

[LuvTaycieGirl]

Originally Posted by Britster

I still log on almost every day but it certainly doesn't feel the same. Even when I joined in 2008, it's changed a lot since then. I admit that I was always really oblivious to the drama I would see going on in the past, and never knew who said what or why, etc, but in the past 6 months, I HAVE noticed a different vibe. And then at one point, I somehow was part of drama, and there was a point when I did almost leave. I actually was in tears once and I was just done. However, I get bored... LOL, so I still pop in. And honestly, that's kind of sad... the main reason I come here is out of boredom or procrastinating, not so much for the friends or the good convos anymore. And I too was often afraid to post certain things anymore because to me, it wasn't even worth it to deal with. So I ended up just being like "screw it..." and posting anyways. But yep, I was very apprehensive to post certain things, and sometimes I would post things thinking they were fine and then be amazed when people would find an issue with it. So now I am just speaking my mind I guess.

Overall, I had to look at the big picture. And realize that only a few are not going to spoil it for me. And it sucks that a lot of posters I used to love and post a lot are not here anymore... so to me, the forum is getting very repetitive... newbies coming on asking the same questions over and over again, which is GREAT! We have to have new people, I was once one asking these questions, but I loved the comradery that also existed at the same time and I don't feel it's there so much anymore. Definitely just a different vibe to me... but it's okay, things change, people change, medicine changes, opinions change, people grow... It happens. I hope to stick around for a while here even if I don't post as much.

I Miss your posts Brit! I always love reading them. They are always so well written and I can tell they are from your heart I haven't posted as much lately manly because I have been so busy with life things. I will get on alot through my phone but I hate trying to type a post or do a new thread through my phone.. to hard and its way more time consuming!

Thank you Ann for the reminder I really try to stay positive. I just come on to have a good time!

[Donnainohio63]

You guys are choking me up here. Group Hug

[SophieKatesMom]

Thank you Ann for this post.

As other have stated there are times when I would have liked to post but had second thoughts.

It seems like sometimes people are provoking others with the questions/answers/comments they post. My thoughts are if I cannot contribute to the original post I usually don't respond. Arguing on a public forum seems to me a lot like fighting on the telephone, it takes a lot of energy and you get NO WHERE.

With that said I strongly believe that the majority of people on Yorkie Talk have good intentions. There are members who I look to for specific types of questions (i.e., Brit for training advice, Nancy1999 is a wealth of information, LadyJane anything medical or rescue related). I would not want Yorkie Talk to lose any members just because someone may not like what they post.

Sometimes we all (including myself) need to remember that you can not set a tone to a font...be it good or bad.

[AllDogBoots]

Thank you Ann.

I read the negatively, shake my head (sometimes in complete shock or disbelief) and ignore it. Negativity usually breeds from fueling the fire.

[Cha Cha]

Thank you for the reminder.

[Connie]

I am very happy for this thread and excited at the idea that YT will become what it used to be...a friendly and supportive bunch of people with no attacking. I have not posted a lot here in the past couple of years for fear of being judged or attacked, and now I will probably be posting more. Thanks Ann!

[ash04ley]

Awesome thread.

I myself, also noticed the negativity. I have also been reluctant to reply to some things, fearing that SOME WAY, SOME HOW i would get a backlash. I Really hope for the best for YT and i hope it keeps the wonderful image it has always had in my heart. YT is ONE OF A KIND. Ive never come across anything close to it, and even with any negativity i have seen it has NEVER stopped me from coming back ( I see that other members react the same way... just mainly reading things and seeing pictures). I definitely did not realize the extent of how far it went, its unfortunate.

Im so glad that it has been BOLDY brought out into the open. I hope that things will just get better and better. I just couldnt take seeing something so wonderful take a wrong turn and just halt. I absolutely love YT. I couldnt have dreamed up a better place for people to come together and have it be all about our little rascals..day in and day out.

[Ringo1]

I miss the old YT. We still had bickering - nothing new there! But it was still fun and good friendships developed.

A lot of those people are gone now and I miss them.

It's a new forum with new people and I really don't know where I fit in anymore. I pop in and answer some questions here and there but that's about it. I, too, find it repetitive a little bit but minus the fun.

Perhaps that's the way it has to be - out with the old and in with the new.

Carry on!

[shelimcallister]

As only a Yorkie Yakker, I haven't seen too much of this and have felt quite welcomed by everyone on this site; however, I do appreciate the standard set by the moderators and I promise to keep my ugly opinions to myself. It is so funny that us ladies (and some men) can turn such a wonderful sharing and learning opportunity into something hateful. Let's all get a yorkie kiss and say, "cheers!!" to this awesome opportunity to obsess over our furbabies. Cheers!!!

[diannenet]

Originally Posted by Ringo1

I miss the old YT. We still had bickering - nothing new there! But it was still fun and good friendships developed.

A lot of those people are gone now and I miss them.

It's a new forum with new people and I really don't know where I fit in anymore. I pop in and answer some questions here and there but that's about it. I, too, find it repetitive a little bit but minus the fun.

Perhaps that's the way it has to be - out with the old and in with the new.

Carry on!

I agree!