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12-16-2011, 09:44 AM | #1 |
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| Hi new here and question Hi Im new here my fiance has a yorkie, I say hers because I honestly dont see why she wants to keep it around lol. Here is a little history on the dog, it used to bark, at everything, chase people down the street, run off after cats people cars leaves the wind, everythng. Urinate on everything it wasnt even really house trained its 3 it was pad trained. Its gotten a little better, used to like me though, now it hates me. urinates and cowers when I get home, urinates and runs in circles when its excited that my fiance is home, If I pick it up to take it outside it urinates on and runs all over the house and somehow continues to do so while I hold it to take it outside, if I bring it inside it will likely soon urinate on me or the floor again very soon. Punishments I have given the dog for the barking and peeing in the house: loud firm "no" "Bad" pick it up, put it in the cage, or outside. Barking outside I take the dog in say no and put it in the cage. Running after someone down the street, well I have no choice on this one I run after the little thing and grab it by whatever limb comes first so it dosnt try to bite or scare some children. say no and put it in the cage. Ive gone as far before to give the dog a bath when it pees when being scared or excited to teach it things it dosnt like happen when it does things i dont like Its made huge improvements in barking, mostly because if I say no its scared and stops everything! it no longer defecates in the house however, it does still seem to enjoy peeing on me or the floor or my fiance or her kid or the most enraging, the bed! If I come home and see that the bedroom door is left open and I want to go in there I have to sneak up on the dog quietly run in, grab it and run outside with it. If I dont it WILL every time pee on my bed, then I get upset then it pees more, then it walks slowly out the door while peeing on itself and the floor and what a mess! Aside from giving it away what can I do, I would LOVE to just get another dog, I LOVE dogs. but this one is just about to push me over the edge and go nuts lol I must stress, I don't beat the dog so the fear it has must come from its foolish brain. But I am a very tall large man and have a deep voice that probably instills fear in the little thing. |
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12-16-2011, 09:52 AM | #2 |
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| Sounds like a new home might be the perfect Christmas gift for this poor baby shame on you...
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12-16-2011, 10:05 AM | #3 |
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| shame on me ? for wanting a house and bed free of pee? Anyone have any usefull ideas? as I said I dont strike the dog! Ive never hurt any animal physically I did, however; once tripped on it on the stairs, which may have been the start of the fear peeing! and that was an accident. How do I reinforce peeing is not accepted in the house on the bed or on people ever. And I hate to ask you, did you even read my post this dogs behavior in the start was terrible! Chasing boys and girls down the street barking and growling. animals attacking children is grounds for having an animal put down! Im trying to train the dog to be good, not pee in the house not chase people! I cant believe you would say shame on you for that? You must be one of the people who thinks a dog can do no wrong and if it does just ignore the behavior and it will go away. My and her daughter love this dog, but hate this problem, mostly the peeing the barking and chasing is not as frequent and seems to have subsided. But then again it is because it is fearful. I would like to instill respect and be the "pack leader" to this dog but have no experience with such a timid animal! |
12-16-2011, 10:16 AM | #4 |
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| Betty, this is probably just another troll. This reads almost exactly like so many other ones in the past. I for one don't believe this is a real situation at all. Some people have WAY too much time on their hands.
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12-16-2011, 10:20 AM | #5 |
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| Wow
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12-16-2011, 10:22 AM | #6 |
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| Your fiance has an easy decision to make. Keep the dog, and show you the door. |
12-16-2011, 10:23 AM | #7 |
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| Im actuially not a troll im looking for advice it is a 5 year old yorkie now. It was 3 when I met it. it is getting progressively worse with the fear peeing. You can say what you want but the dog isnt going to get any happier if I dont know what to change! The dog is sitting with me now, the only way I can get it to do that is close off all the doors to the rooms except the living room and kitchen where her food is! The dog I think only sits with me because she feels I am the dominant figure in the house. The barking and chasing have under control. But I feel that is what is leading to the fear peeing! Last year when I came home it would pee out of excitement to see me, which was very frusterating but I think I made her hate me because eventuially instead of just cleaning up I would yell no bad dog! until now it is scared of me! basically Im writing, I sounded overly frusterated because this dog before each of my posts has actuially peed on the floor and last night the pull out sofa. Its becoming extremely frusterating and I clearly dont know how to properly train the dog to not pee on things. |
12-16-2011, 10:26 AM | #8 |
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| For the sake that this is not a troll and just a male that has no clue how to take care of a Dog. Yorkie ownership 101...Never yell at a dog or smack it for peeing in the house. The dog will only associate you yelling at it when it pees and therefore never pee in front of you. Whether it's in the house or outside where she should be going... On that note, this dog knows you don't like her and sounds down right terrified of you. If you're not willing to completely re-work your ideas of training then do the poor little girl a favor and give her to a loving home that wants her there.
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12-16-2011, 10:27 AM | #9 |
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| Sounds like you scare the piss outta that dog!!!
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12-16-2011, 10:27 AM | #10 |
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| Yes !!! i did read your post more than once and cannot believe that you said you chased and caught the dog by whatever limb that you could grab onto do you not realize that you could seriously injure him or cause his death The running after people, cars or other animals would stop if you took the time to take him out on a leash.. And you may have him so tramatized by your behaviour now, that he will always be scared of you..
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12-16-2011, 10:29 AM | #11 |
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| I highly doubt that she would get rid of me for the dogs urinating ! I know everyone here is a dog lover and I do love animals as well im just at my wits end with this one I have never experienced behaviour like this with a dog and I just would like it to stop! Why would you suggest rude comments instead of advice is beyond me shodanusmc I have said multiple times that I do not hurt the dog and only have verbal reactions to her behavior followed by some time in her crate or outdoors! which im sure everyone on here would agree is the right thing to do with most dogs. This dog had some problems from the start though it was bought from a pet store and had a broken leg and malnourished which has created a bond my fiance feels like she saved the dog no one else wanted I intend to not break that bond but to try to get this problem under control |
12-16-2011, 10:34 AM | #12 |
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| The dog only gets out when it makes a b-line for the door every time its opened! of course I have to grab it whatever I get first, I don't lift the dog by its legs or anything. I lift the dog by the body Im frusterated, not stupid or abusive and the dog has never been injured as a result of anything, in fact the only time it was ever injured was before it was purchased! If the dog is running after people it darts around in an insanely fast manner, I believe these dogs were bred for hunting rats and mice, so they are naturally quick and hard to catch and I don't want the dog scaring children. For the neighbors they just laugh and I take my time to get her back if shes chasing someone down the road its difficult to grab her but I always just get a firm hold of her and bring her back home to her cage! never with great force as that is simply not needed for a 6 pound creature |
12-16-2011, 10:34 AM | #13 |
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| I think you should try some professional training. Sometimes the problem isn't something you can fix alone. Telling her no and putting her in her crate defeats the purpose of the crate. Small dogs naturally take longer to potty train but she seems to have a submissive pee which appears more like urinary incontinence. Have you thought of taking her to the vet? Sometimes physical problems manifest emotionally in animals. If she is clear then you guys definitely need to take the training route. One thing that is highly recommended are walks. Leash training will help a lot and avoid her running after others. Also, she might be a high energy dog who is going crazy because she isn't getting enough exercise. I'm not familiar with your case but I would not add another dog, it would just make things worse. You're probably just really stressed out with her at the moment but need to calm down. My dogs cam sense when my hubby is in an awful mood. If she senses that the fear might prevent your training from being successful. Please update us on how she is doing! |
12-16-2011, 10:42 AM | #14 | |
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| If this were a real situation, which I do NOT believe for one second then I would say there is NO HOPE for it ever getting better. The OP, if he were a real person, is way too proud of his manliness and his large voice, and etc. etc. He just wants to be "alpha"...etc, etc, etc. If this were a real person then the only hope for that dog is that it gets a new home asap. I would then tell the OP to never get another dog again...or any pet for that matter. I would also agree with Steve 100%. This is the advice I would give if I thought this was a real person and not just a troll. But, since I believe it is a troll, I will not respond to the OP at all....this is for everyone else. It's always the same thing, "my fiance's dog" or "my girlfriends" dog....I "need to be alpha"....seriously....next time just copy and paste. Quote:
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12-16-2011, 10:45 AM | #15 |
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| I am 100% willing to change the way I have trained the dog. in the past with larger dogs that I have had, it was easy and they were not scared. the dog pees you show it the pee and say no, followed by taking it out. this dog clearly it is not working so I need a new approach. I simply gave an honest description of what I had been trying to do out of desparation because honestly I liked the dog better when she peed out of excitement. Now that shes scared of me it makes me feel s**tty for making her so sad. I would like to turn it around and hopefully get rid of the excited peeing as well but the first thing I would like to work on is the fear. peeing will likely only happen on the floor at our feet if I can get the fear away. What I have been trying to do now is keep her with me, all around the house when I am home. have her sit with me play with me whatever. She seems more comfortable with me when I am seated as apposed to standing. but that is impractical sometimes as I am usually up and about lol Sorry that I sounded "cold" I guess I just am unhappy with the entire situation and would like to undo the fear I put into the little thing. As my fiance put it though "your a big man, if you yelled at me like that id probably pee my pants too" I have asked people I know for advice and they seem to think size combined with a low growl of a voice and that dogs somehow sense that you are angry even if I dont try to show it is whats wrong Sometimes a different tone of voice works if I make it higher in combo with geting down lower. Just want some advice guys, ps the dog is happy most of the time, just not when im home alone with her. but she follows my fiance around, even plays with me sometimes but it takes a lot of convincing |
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