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Old 11-24-2011, 12:33 PM   #1
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Hi All,

I have visited this site so many times and finally registered. Our family recently adopted 2 Yorkie stepbrothers after having to put our 13 year old Yorkie to sleep in August. I am looking forward to getting know everyone and enjoy reading the posts. Our two little guys are 4.5 years old and came from a breeder in Dover, DE. We were told they were AKC but they are instead registered with Universal Kennel Club Inc. as their parents came from Ireland. They have been together for life and are very well behaved. They were neutered last week had to have dentals. I do have 2 questions if anyone can answer them.
1) Did anyone experience aggressive behavior after applying K9 Advantix?
2) We have a pet cockatiel - Tucker - they are determined to get him (he's in his cage at all times), is there any way to rectify this behavior?
Our other Yorkie Falcon, never was interested in Tucker so this is new to us.
3) Has anyone ever adopted 2 bonded dogs at the same time? We went from 1 dog to no dogs, to 2 dogs - so any advice would be appreciated

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Old 11-24-2011, 12:56 PM   #2
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Welcome to YorkieTalk! Congratulations on your new additions

I don't have any advice for you as we don't own any birds... but I know my 3 year old yorkie (Couver) went after my grandpa's bird and luckily we were able to separate them before either of them were hurt. I would just be careful with yorkies and birds... I know they can peacefully coexist, but I know I wouldn't trust my two around a bird.

I hope others are able to help you. I just wanted to say hi and welcome to the community!
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:29 PM   #3
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I'm newer to the world of Yorkies too and cannot offer advice, but I did want to welcome you to YT! I know you'll find lots of help here!

And Congratulations on your new additions!
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:13 AM   #4
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Welcome to YT. When I went to Ireland I noticed many of the Yorkies there did not have docked tails. How about your little boys? Good luck with the bird. Yorkies were bred to be hunters of small rodents, hopefully they will figure out he's not a flying mouse
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:51 AM   #5
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Hello and welcome to YT.
Yorkies & other Animals ? You can desensitize the dogs to the bird. But honestly I would never trust, them around the bird. It is different if they are taught as pups that cats, birds, rabbits and yes even the pet rat can become part of their pack even if it is a different species. Yorkies for the most part will still chase animals that are not part of their family unit. A strange cat, bird, rabbit and any kind of rodents is fair game to be chased, dug up, caught and shaken. They will sometimes kill them too. Older dogs already have a very deep prey drive that is hard to change. Their are exercises you can do to keep them from barking and jumping at the bird. But again I think this only works when you are there. Leave them alone and you likely will find the cage and feathers on the floor when you get home. Especially if the bird is clipped and can not fly.
Behavior and training are my thing, so I really don't like giving advice about medical things. I have never had a problem with a reaction to flea drops. I am sure someone else will have a better understanding of what may have happened , why and what to do.
Bonded pair ? Yes, I have worked with a bonded pair. But don't really see what your question is, about this. I will check back tomorrow and if you have a question I can help with, I will answer.
Thank you for giving these little guys a happy home, may you both be blessed with many happy days.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:19 AM   #6
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Thanks to everyone for the welcomes.

In regards to their tails being docked, yes they are both docked. However, Jackson's is still a lot longer than Jagger or our previous Yorkie Falcon's was.
Our bird has been throwing food at them so they seem to enjoy that, however we are trying to persuade them to leave the bird alone. They are getting better with not bothering him for a few hours, but then they are right back at it.

Luckily, we have a multistory cage, on wheels so there is no way for them to actually reach the bird, it's pretty tall and heavy. However, they have been jumping up and getting about 1/4 the way, but to no avail. Tucker is not clipped, so if he ever got out, he'd be able to fly. He has such a big cage because we didn't let him out, as our previous Yorkie would try to get at him, that was the only time they bothered each other.

With the bonded pair, I was told two males couldn't get along. But, they've been together all this time and with being neutered now, they are calmer. They do have separation anxiety from each other, so they bother have to always be together and are starting to develop it with me. I wish they would develop a stronger bond with my mom, so I've told her to start feeding and playing with them. They are beginning to get more comfortable but still are skittish with men, so hopefully in time they get better with that. They were left alone a lot, so they have to get used to being with people all of the time.

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There are a few members who have or have had pet birds with no problems. They were raised together. Mine chases rabbits, squirrels, and birds. No bird had better land in her yard. They are terriers, so it is a natural behavior for them. I hope you can get some good advice, but I don't know how you can change what they most likely have learned over the years. I would just keep the bird in the cage and keep them separated. If they are like mine, they have been used to chasing birds from their yard. You can try to correct them whenever they show bad behavior toward the bird, but I don't know if you can ever completely change it.

As far as the Advantix is concerned, has it been applied to them in the past? Some are more sensitive to some brands than others. I use the same thing on mine with no problem. Have you discussed this with your vet? Perhaps another brand would not be so harsh to them.
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My b/f has had a cockateil for years. We got Ozzy about 5 months ago, but he was only 12 weeks when we got him. He is already trained to leave the bird alone, to the point where my b/f can sit on the couch with the bird on his shoulder, and Oz will get up on the couch and curl up and sleep a couple feet away.

When we first brought Oz home we would hold him up beside the bird in the cage so he could smell it, but not close enough to touch. Did that for some time, then we would let the bird out while Oz was in his harness, me holding onto him. If he made any move toward the bird I held him and said a firm NO. Same when the bird would fly around. Hold on and say NO. Did not let him ever get "excited" about the bird. Now he totally ignores the bird... I figure he has learned that the bird is important to us. I was worried, too, because Miko makes noises just like Oz's squeeky toys! Oz has recently taken up the position of "seed hoover" under Miko's cage.

So, it can be done. However, I think it would take a lot of time with two dogs, especially since they're older. I don't know if I would ever trust them with the bird out and about, but I think respect for the bird and its area can be learned over time. Good luck!! And welcome!
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The bird is new to your guys. As far as they are concerned it is something new and interesting and possibly an intruder. Probably the more active the bird is the more it interests the dogs. It may help to exercise the dogs more and give them things to do to keep their little minds busy and distracted from the bird. Some bully sticks might help them to chew more and get out some of their aggression. Usually a dog that is really tired will be less inclined to look for things to do.
We used to have a little dog that felt her was in charge of the house. My kids got a couple of hamsters that drove him up the wall. He would sit and watch those things and fuss and be so upset about them being there. We had to put them in a bedroom and shut the door because he was so upset. Of course you can't do that with your bird but it is interesting the things that will set a dog off.
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