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Old 11-14-2011, 01:45 AM   #16
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One more thing that I forgot to mention that I noticed immediately in your picture -- please get fresh blankets for the puppies and momma to lie on. Anytime they become soiled, change them immediately! Cleanliness is vital to their health. You do not want these little ones lying on urine, blood and feces soaked blankets! That can easily cause infection!

You might want to get some disposable puppy pads to use. That way you can constantly change them out and ensure a clean surface for them to lie upon. I used puppy pads and had a large supply of baby receiving blankets that I could constantly rotate. The receiving blankets provided something a little softer than the puppy pads to have next to their skin. But I still lined the entire area with puppy pads.

It would be better if you had them in a whelping box inside the kennel. That way the momma could move away from the puppies and they would still be contained. I used a under-bed plastic rubbermade box for this purpose. Mom could get out of the whelping box, eat and drink while the puppies stayed in the box and could not get to the dog food or water.

Are you feeding momma puppy food? It is higher in what she needs -- so while she is nursing, its puppy food for her. She probably still needs addiitonal sources of calcium. Low calcium is a very real danger. You can supplement mom with the very same puppy milk replacement that you would feed the puppies if they could not nurse. You can also get prescription calcium that you give from a syringe. Best if you ask your vet what he would like you to use.

You will normally have your puppies in to the vet for tail docking and dew claw removal DAY 3-5. This is not required, and you may decide not to do it, espcially since these are not going to be show or breeding dogs. I would still have the dew claws removed though as this is a safety issue. Most homes have carpeting and it is so easy for a dew claw to get caught in carpeting! OUCH! While you are having that done, it is a good time to have mom checked over and get calcium suggestions from the vet. The vet will also weigh each puppy. Record these weights and then when you come home you can start a card on each puppy so that you can weigh them daily and record anything unusual about each one. Puppies should be gaining weight each day -- slow & steady.

Again -- wishing you well with these babies!
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One more thing that I forgot to mention that I noticed immediately in your picture -- please get fresh blankets for the puppies and momma to lie on. Anytime they become soiled, change them immediately! Cleanliness is vital to their health. You do not want these little ones lying on urine, blood and feces soaked blankets! That can easily cause infection!

You might want to get some disposable puppy pads to use. That way you can constantly change them out and ensure a clean surface for them to lie upon. I used puppy pads and had a large supply of baby receiving blankets that I could constantly rotate. The receiving blankets provided something a little softer than the puppy pads to have next to their skin. But I still lined the entire area with puppy pads.

It would be better if you had them in a whelping box inside the kennel. That way the momma could move away from the puppies and they would still be contained. I used a under-bed plastic rubbermade box for this purpose. Mom could get out of the whelping box, eat and drink while the puppies stayed in the box and could not get to the dog food or water.

Are you feeding momma puppy food? It is higher in what she needs -- so while she is nursing, its puppy food for her. She probably still needs addiitonal sources of calcium. Low calcium is a very real danger. You can supplement mom with the very same puppy milk replacement that you would feed the puppies if they could not nurse. You can also get prescription calcium that you give from a syringe. Best if you ask your vet what he would like you to use.

You will normally have your puppies in to the vet for tail docking and dew claw removal DAY 3-5. This is not required, and you may decide not to do it, espcially since these are not going to be show or breeding dogs. I would still have the dew claws removed though as this is a safety issue. Most homes have carpeting and it is so easy for a dew claw to get caught in carpeting! OUCH! While you are having that done, it is a good time to have mom checked over and get calcium suggestions from the vet. The vet will also weigh each puppy. Record these weights and then when you come home you can start a card on each puppy so that you can weigh them daily and record anything unusual about each one. Puppies should be gaining weight each day -- slow & steady.

Again -- wishing you well with these babies!
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the sheets they are in were the ones she was in when i moved her and the puppies while i was cleaning her box i change the blankets everyday in two weeks i plan to take dollie to get her registered and try to get all her shots and everything done then plan on taking the puppies to get checked and everything as to the whole pregnant thing i did suspect that she might have been at the time but didnt think it was possible since the males owner told me he was fixed she had big nipples her vuvla was swollen but thought it was a false pregnancy till i felt puppies moving and milk coming out i have been giving her puppy food ever since she has been inside my house since the day i bought her shes never been around any other male dogs except ollie and my pitbull which is not possible because he is fixed as well have proof from the humane society plus he never did n e thing around her ollie did a few times but my husband didnt worry since we thought he was fixed but n e ways i have been doing alot of research since then i read a little every day about the breed about the puppies it could be a possibility but i doubt they could be from any other dog other than ollies but either way mix or pure breed dosient matter i will still love these dogs and will find them a good loving home i was planing to sell them for 200 but from other breeders talking to me and so on have told me to try to get them registered and everything because if i sell for a low price they may want to sell to other ppl for a very high price i honestly dont know what to do but will see as they get bigger
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the sheets they are in were the ones she was in when i moved her and the puppies while i was cleaning her box i change the blankets everyday in two weeks i plan to take dollie to get her registered and try to get all her shots and everything done then plan on taking the puppies to get checked and everything as to the whole pregnant thing i did suspect that she might have been at the time but didnt think it was possible since the males owner told me he was fixed she had big nipples her vuvla was swollen but thought it was a false pregnancy till i felt puppies moving and milk coming out i have been giving her puppy food ever since she has been inside my house since the day i bought her shes never been around any other male dogs except ollie and my pitbull which is not possible because he is fixed as well have proof from the humane society plus he never did n e thing around her ollie did a few times but my husband didnt worry since we thought he was fixed but n e ways i have been doing alot of research since then i read a little every day about the breed about the puppies it could be a possibility but i doubt they could be from any other dog other than ollies but either way mix or pure breed dosient matter i will still love these dogs and will find them a good loving home i was planing to sell them for 200 but from other breeders talking to me and so on have told me to try to get them registered and everything because if i sell for a low price they may want to sell to other ppl for a very high price i honestly dont know what to do but will see as they get bigger
Did you ever take her to the vet?
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the sheets they are in were the ones she was in when i moved her and the puppies while i was cleaning her box i change the blankets everyday in two weeks i plan to take dollie to get her registered and try to get all her shots and everything done then plan on taking the puppies to get checked and everything as to the whole pregnant thing i did suspect that she might have been at the time but didnt think it was possible since the males owner told me he was fixed she had big nipples her vuvla was swollen but thought it was a false pregnancy till i felt puppies moving and milk coming out i have been giving her puppy food ever since she has been inside my house since the day i bought her shes never been around any other male dogs except ollie and my pitbull which is not possible because he is fixed as well have proof from the humane society plus he never did n e thing around her ollie did a few times but my husband didnt worry since we thought he was fixed but n e ways i have been doing alot of research since then i read a little every day about the breed about the puppies it could be a possibility but i doubt they could be from any other dog other than ollies but either way mix or pure breed dosient matter i will still love these dogs and will find them a good loving home i was planing to sell them for 200 but from other breeders talking to me and so on have told me to try to get them registered and everything because if i sell for a low price they may want to sell to other ppl for a very high price i honestly dont know what to do but will see as they get bigger
You cant register them with a reputable kennel club. Also I would think going to the vet sooner would be better then later to make sure everything checks out and is ok. Also isn't it pretty easy to tell if a dog is fixed or not when its a boy?
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You cant register them with a reputable kennel club. Also I would think going to the vet sooner would be better then later to make sure everything checks out and is ok. Also isn't it pretty easy to tell if a dog is fixed or not when its a boy?

That's what I was thinking the whole time..
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You have to take into consideration that you will get answers from AKC, UKC, ACA breeders. The AKC has strict guidelines that they have decided are finite. No varations are allowed. However, UKC is different. I know that Goldens can be registered with UKC and imagine so could the Chocolates. There are those who believe that the AKC is definitive in regards to breed standards. Then there are those of us the don't feel that way. You have to remember that some AKC breed standards also include surgically altering dogs to fit their criteria. Why they are so set on color standards but not on natural physical conditions is beyond me. I am not condeming the AKC only stating what is obvious.

So you pretty much have to decide which organization is a better fit with your own beliefs and standards and then follow that organization's standard that matches.

There are facts in this post and the rest are my opinions. If you disagree with me, that is your right but don't attack me for my opinions.
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You cant register them with a reputable kennel club. Also I would think going to the vet sooner would be better then later to make sure everything checks out and is ok. Also isn't it pretty easy to tell if a dog is fixed or not when its a boy?

i have never had a boy like i said i bought him from a person who told me he was fixed he never humped anything in my house he was always calm till i brought her home i emailed the vet and i told him my situation so some time this week im taking the mother and her puppies to get checked and see what he can do about the registration and everything it was not my intention to get her pregnant to begin with and now im in this situation to where i dont know how im going to try to get her papers when i have no proof hopefully the vet can help me
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You have to take into consideration that you will get answers from AKC, UKC, ACA breeders. The AKC has strict guidelines that they have decided are finite. No varations are allowed. However, UKC is different. I know that Goldens can be registered with UKC and imagine so could the Chocolates. There are those who believe that the AKC is definitive in regards to breed standards. Then there are those of us the don't feel that way. You have to remember that some AKC breed standards also include surgically altering dogs to fit their criteria. Why they are so set on color standards but not on natural physical conditions is beyond me. I am not condeming the AKC only stating what is obvious.

So you pretty much have to decide which organization is a better fit with your own beliefs and standards and then follow that organization's standard that matches.

There are facts in this post and the rest are my opinions. If you disagree with me, that is your right but don't attack me for my opinions.
Just curious by surgically altering them are you referring to docking the tails and ears. So you do not alter your dogs tails or ears? Or are you just stating that is a standard of the AKC ? When I got Buster from a pet store ( I made many mistakes in the beginning ) I thought that AKC and CKC which Buster was registered by were the same but I have learned that the CKC (Continental Kennel Club) is more for backyard breeders or large scale breeders which some consider to be puppy mills. I was reading some info from the CKC website that they determine purebred by 3 photo's and 2 witness which I feel could be more manipulated than the AKC which requires the two breeding dogs family tree or registry(sorry not a breeder so the words I use may not be correct) to determine purebred status. The CKC will also register mixed dogs but it seems more for the purposes of ownership and participating in CKC events and being recognized by the CKC and not based on breeding for the betterment of the breed.
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This is just my opinion and I am willing to learn if I have stated things incorrectly. I am uninformed about the UKC and ACA so I will not comment on them.

PS Congratulations on your babies they are adorable and I am glad Ollie lives on through his babies.
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but the problem is i dont have any papers or shot records for dollie the mother dont i need papers to show proof and information on her parents and stuff? i dont have any of that the owner apparently didnt have anything im starting to think he stole her or something how can they have a dog with no papers or nothing
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If you aren't registering AKC ir IBA is the USA why bother?

In Canada CKC as in Canadian NOT Continental Kennel Club

AKC registers goldens when born from AKC parents...
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In Canada CKC as in Canadian NOT Continental Kennel Club

AKC registers goldens when born from AKC parents...
Yes CKC in Canada is the Canadian Kennel Club The Canadian Kennel Club > Home which is like the AKC but in USA there is the Continental Kennel Club Continental Kennel Club Puppy Registration and Free Litter Registration which is not the same as AKC.
If you do not have papers then perhaps they never registered them with AKC. I did not bother registering Buster as I realized that the CKC registration really meant nothing to me so why spend the money. I would just love the puppies and find good homes for them. Selling undocumented puppies for more because someone might resell them is a possibility but unlikely but no matter what you sell them for what is most important is finding good stable homes. Best wishes to you and your fur family.
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Continental Kennel Club will registered any dog that is over 6 months and that you have 3 picts of and 2 witnesses that says it is pure bread. I did the same thing sadly got Tibbs and they was all yeah "CKC Tea Cup Yorkie 350" I was like wow and did not know any better so I went and got him. And then they give me a paper about CKC and it had the above info. I however did end up finding Tibbs mom and dad they were local byb and the mom and dad were AKC but she did not registered the litter....so what ever..... I love him papers or not
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I'm no expert on breeding, but I just wanted to pop in and so that your new pups are adorable! Love the look of chocolate Yorkies. ^^ <3
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