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Old 08-17-2011, 10:08 AM   #16
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Today is a sad day. It's a long story, but the synopsis is I no longer have my furbaby Lily.

My sister and I originally got Lily from our friend Kay. Lily was Kay's daughter's dog. But her daughter was stationed in Hawaii and shipped her home to Kay. Somehow, and I'm not sure on the details, the breeder started keeping Lily since Kay couldn't keep her all the time (She already has two dogs of her own). However, the breeder would often give Lily back to Kay saying she needed a break and couldn't take anymore. Then a week later, she'd call and ask to take Lily back. (Why our friend allowed this is beyond me. All I know is that Kay is a very generous, kind woman who has a hard time saying "no" to people.) Or, she would give Lily back so she could go out of state to visit family. (I get the impression that there wasn't any "asking" if Kay would watch Lily, so much as "Hey, I'm coming by with Lily.)

Earlier this year, breeder/keeper said she was going to Texas and dropped Lily off with Kay. Kay was scheduled to go to Hawaii to see her daughter for a month. So my sister and I volunteered to keep Lily.

Well, after two months had gone by, the breeder never called Kay for Lily. Kay offered to let us keep Lily, saying it was good she was in a stable environment where she wasn't constantly being passed back and forth. She actually told breeder this a month ago.

Four months have passed and today we got the worst phone call ever: breeder called and wanted Lily back. Not only that, but she had filed theft charges against Kay. She also called my sister and left a horrible, threatening message, then had a friend of her's call and leave a message telling us we had 24 hours to return Lily to her rightful owner, and that the breeder was an excellent person who had never neglected or hurt any animal. (Why did she even feel the need to defend her?!)

The police officer said we had to give her back, even though Kay purchased her 6 years ago and has paper work. The officer said the woman was psychotic (which she is; she has huge issues I recently discovered) and if Kay went to court she would win Lily easily. But the honest, hard reality is we can't afford to take this woman to court, even though I would love to. And the police are not going to do anything to return Lily to her real owner. They said that next time Kay needs to have everything in writing. I'm so angry about this! Why does a crazy woman have to win? It's unjust.

Our hearts are broken because we loved our little Lily. She was really dear to my heart. I'm single and don't have any family in the state. I loved coming home to her and playing and snuggling with her. I feel so helpless because there is nothing I can do about the situation.

With that said, would anyone know where we could get a lovely Yorkie for a decent price? I don't mean I want a puppy mill York, but my sister and I can't afford $500+ for a puppy. We have looked at rescue Yorkies, but the ones in our area have had little contact with humans and will take more time per day than we can currently offer. If you know of good Yorkie who needs a loving home in the state of Colorado, please send me a PM. We would love a little female Yorkie to spend our evenings with again.
When someone says something like this it scares me. Seriously, the initial cost of a Yorkie is the smallest cost. There are so many other things. Grooming and even grooming supplies are expensive, yorkies need more dental care, and they need more ER care, things that could wait a day on a large breed dog, have to be seen immediately on a small breed dog. Also, spaying and neutering can be expensive, had you spayed Lilly yet? Many breeders get nervous when you haven’t done this, they are afraid you’re planning on breeding the dog. I know you must be heartbroken, but I just want to warn you that Yorkies are an expensive breed to own.
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If you feel you cannot do anything else, and still want to purchase a yorkie, why not talk to the lady and offer to buy Lily back from her for whatever you feel comfortable paying? I know this sort of plays right into her hands, but maybe she would see the opportunity to make a few dollars quick and sell her to you. She may already plan on selling Lily and that's why she went through all this to get her back. It may be worth a shot anyway. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.
I was going to suggest the same thing!
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So sorry this happened to you. Praying that you will get your own baby soon.
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I am sorry this part did not post: I think it would be wonderful if you could adopt an older adult rescue. Maybe your local shelter has someone who would be just perfect for you. I understand the hole in your heart.
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Ohhh how sad ! Not fair that you couldn't keep Lily

I reccomand you just keep looking at rescues or the SPCA and wait for the perfect yorkie to arrive.
You could also call maybe 1 a week and ask if there is any yorkie up for adoption that might fit you or let them have your phone number and let them call you when there is a yorkie there that needs a good loving home !
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Do you have enough money though to care for a yorkie ?
Yorkies can be prone to problems like Patella luxation, Fido has to go through a PL surgery this winter cause he has 2-3 grades on one knee, just that surgery costs me 1.000 $ , very expensive !
Then I have to bathe him 1 a week with quality shampoo, 1 bottle of shampoo and conditioner costs 20-40$ each and I use a half shampoo bottle a month, his food is about 50$ a month, then clothes so he doesnt get cold in the winter, go to the groomers every 2 months or so that costs 70$ here.
Then if something happens you have to be able to pay the vet.
And then ofcourse harnesses, leashes, collars, tags etc.
I spend about 100$ a month on Fido.

I hope you find your perfect yorkie !! good luck
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When someone says something like this it scares me. Seriously, the initial cost of a Yorkie is the smallest cost. There are so many other things. Grooming and even grooming supplies are expensive, yorkies need more dental care, and they need more ER care, things that could wait a day on a large breed dog, have to be seen immediately on a small breed dog. Also, spaying and neutering can be expensive, had you spayed Lilly yet? Many breeders get nervous when you haven’t done this, they are afraid you’re planning on breeding the dog. I know you must be heartbroken, but I just want to warn you that Yorkies are an expensive breed to own.
Boy, do I concur on this point. We had Scarlett at the vet's office today to get groomed and her annual shots. The bill was $247.00 for everything (we found out she had an ear infection while she was being examined this morning.) In the 14 months we have had her, I have paid about 2k in vet bills, flea/heartworm meds and grooming. Add in the food and toys, clothes, etc and she is by far the most expensive dog I have had to date. I consider myself lucky, we've only had 2 ER and 1 specialist visit, otherwise the cost would be much, much higher.
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I'm so sorry you have had to go through this - it must be really frustrating and upsetting. Since the breeder has a history of sending her back and forth to your friend she may decide to send her back when she need another break or needs to travel again. If you can keep on good terms with this woman maybe you could offer to keep Lily when she needs you to and then talk with her about signing Lily over to you.
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Lily is spayed. She had all of her shots—everything. We were able to afford her health care, including grooming and vet bills (teeth cleaning, etc.). The main issue of buying a new puppy is the initial cost. I certainly did not mean to convey that I am unable to properly and fully care for her, nor did I mean to scare anyone into thinking I was irresponsible, truly. I'm currently building my career, so the budget is there for her needs, but not to go out and purchase a new puppy or other large money items this year - next year more than likely. That was one reason we agreed to keeping her was because she was given to us, thus we could afford her.

In an interesting turn of events... our friend called her daughter and son-in-law who originally had Lily. The son-in-law has apparently dealt with the breeder before and worked with her son for several years. He was able to talk to her and ask her to seriously evaluate whether or not keeping Lily was going to work with her lifestyle anymore. He called us and spoke with us and was really good. We will have a decision tomorrow. The only hitch is the breeder said she would still like to see her on occasion and meet my sister and I. We are considering the suggestion to ask to purchase her. That would take care of any issues that might arise.

Either way, it will be okay. The whole thing is beyond crazy. But hopefully the time will come when either Lily will be ours or else we will eventually find another Yorkie.

Thank you all for the support. It is truly a distressing situation but so glad I found this forum.
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Lily is spayed. She had all of her shots—everything. We were able to afford her health care, including grooming and vet bills (teeth cleaning, etc.). The main issue of buying a new puppy is the initial cost. I certainly did not mean to convey that I am unable to properly and fully care for her, nor did I mean to scare anyone into thinking I was irresponsible, truly. I'm currently building my career, so the budget is there for her needs, but not to go out and purchase a new puppy or other large money items this year - next year more than likely. That was one reason we agreed to keeping her was because she was given to us, thus we could afford her.

In an interesting turn of events... our friend called her daughter and son-in-law who originally had Lily. The son-in-law has apparently dealt with the breeder before and worked with her son for several years. He was able to talk to her and ask her to seriously evaluate whether or not keeping Lily was going to work with her lifestyle anymore. He called us and spoke with us and was really good. We will have a decision tomorrow. The only hitch is the breeder said she would still like to see her on occasion and meet my sister and I. We are considering the suggestion to ask to purchase her. That would take care of any issues that might arise.

Either way, it will be okay. The whole thing is beyond crazy. But hopefully the time will come when either Lily will be ours or else we will eventually find another Yorkie.

Thank you all for the support. It is truly a distressing situation but so glad I found this forum.
Sorry, I hope I didn't offend you, I wasn't sure if you were aware of the extra cost associated with yorkies, I had to take Joey to the emergency room twice the first year, and neither incident could have been prevented or foreseen. Of course emergency room want credit cards or money up front, and it’s really important to plan for this event. Best of luck, I hope everything works out!
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My pets have always been as dear to me as my children. Most mothers will turn into a lioness if someone tries to take or hurt one of their children. If you really care for that dog you will do what ever is necessary to get her back. I assume the dog is trained and is comfortable with you so I would say getting her back would be much better than starting over with a puppy at this point. You also might consider that this little dog has no idea why the people who have been caring for her all this time are suddenly gone. She must be in a state of confusion right now. I hope this women will consider selling her to you for the dogs sake at least. It doesn't matter that the women is gaining in this situation. You are doing a loving service for the dog. I'd break out my the highest interest credit card if I had to.
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Today is a sad day. It's a long story, but the synopsis is I no longer have my furbaby Lily.

My sister and I originally got Lily from our friend Kay. Lily was Kay's daughter's dog. But her daughter was stationed in Hawaii and shipped her home to Kay. Somehow, and I'm not sure on the details, the breeder started keeping Lily since Kay couldn't keep her all the time (She already has two dogs of her own). However, the breeder would often give Lily back to Kay saying she needed a break and couldn't take anymore. Then a week later, she'd call and ask to take Lily back. (Why our friend allowed this is beyond me. All I know is that Kay is a very generous, kind woman who has a hard time saying "no" to people.) Or, she would give Lily back so she could go out of state to visit family. (I get the impression that there wasn't any "asking" if Kay would watch Lily, so much as "Hey, I'm coming by with Lily.)

Earlier this year, breeder/keeper said she was going to Texas and dropped Lily off with Kay. Kay was scheduled to go to Hawaii to see her daughter for a month. So my sister and I volunteered to keep Lily.

Well, after two months had gone by, the breeder never called Kay for Lily. Kay offered to let us keep Lily, saying it was good she was in a stable environment where she wasn't constantly being passed back and forth. She actually told breeder this a month ago.

Four months have passed and today we got the worst phone call ever: breeder called and wanted Lily back. Not only that, but she had filed theft charges against Kay. She also called my sister and left a horrible, threatening message, then had a friend of her's call and leave a message telling us we had 24 hours to return Lily to her rightful owner, and that the breeder was an excellent person who had never neglected or hurt any animal. (Why did she even feel the need to defend her?!)

The police officer said we had to give her back, even though Kay purchased her 6 years ago and has paper work. The officer said the woman was psychotic (which she is; she has huge issues I recently discovered) and if Kay went to court she would win Lily easily. But the honest, hard reality is we can't afford to take this woman to court, even though I would love to. And the police are not going to do anything to return Lily to her real owner. They said that next time Kay needs to have everything in writing. I'm so angry about this! Why does a crazy woman have to win? It's unjust.

Our hearts are broken because we loved our little Lily. She was really dear to my heart. I'm single and don't have any family in the state. I loved coming home to her and playing and snuggling with her. I feel so helpless because there is nothing I can do about the situation.

With that said, would anyone know where we could get a lovely Yorkie for a decent price? I don't mean I want a puppy mill York, but my sister and I can't afford $500+ for a puppy. We have looked at rescue Yorkies, but the ones in our area have had little contact with humans and will take more time per day than we can currently offer. If you know of good Yorkie who needs a loving home in the state of Colorado, please send me a PM. We would love a little female Yorkie to spend our evenings with again.
I think you should look into getting an older, more settled Yorkie that doesn't mind being alone during the day and snuggling with you both in the evenings.
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Today is a sad day. It's a long story, but the synopsis is I no longer have my furbaby Lily.

My sister and I originally got Lily from our friend Kay. Lily was Kay's daughter's dog. But her daughter was stationed in Hawaii and shipped her home to Kay. Somehow, and I'm not sure on the details, the breeder started keeping Lily since Kay couldn't keep her all the time (She already has two dogs of her own). However, the breeder would often give Lily back to Kay saying she needed a break and couldn't take anymore. Then a week later, she'd call and ask to take Lily back. (Why our friend allowed this is beyond me. All I know is that Kay is a very generous, kind woman who has a hard time saying "no" to people.) Or, she would give Lily back so she could go out of state to visit family. (I get the impression that there wasn't any "asking" if Kay would watch Lily, so much as "Hey, I'm coming by with Lily.)

Earlier this year, breeder/keeper said she was going to Texas and dropped Lily off with Kay. Kay was scheduled to go to Hawaii to see her daughter for a month. So my sister and I volunteered to keep Lily.

Well, after two months had gone by, the breeder never called Kay for Lily. Kay offered to let us keep Lily, saying it was good she was in a stable environment where she wasn't constantly being passed back and forth. She actually told breeder this a month ago.

Four months have passed and today we got the worst phone call ever: breeder called and wanted Lily back. Not only that, but she had filed theft charges against Kay. She also called my sister and left a horrible, threatening message, then had a friend of her's call and leave a message telling us we had 24 hours to return Lily to her rightful owner, and that the breeder was an excellent person who had never neglected or hurt any animal. (Why did she even feel the need to defend her?!)

The police officer said we had to give her back, even though Kay purchased her 6 years ago and has paper work. The officer said the woman was psychotic (which she is; she has huge issues I recently discovered) and if Kay went to court she would win Lily easily. But the honest, hard reality is we can't afford to take this woman to court, even though I would love to. And the police are not going to do anything to return Lily to her real owner. They said that next time Kay needs to have everything in writing. I'm so angry about this! Why does a crazy woman have to win? It's unjust.

Our hearts are broken because we loved our little Lily. She was really dear to my heart. I'm single and don't have any family in the state. I loved coming home to her and playing and snuggling with her. I feel so helpless because there is nothing I can do about the situation.

With that said, would anyone know where we could get a lovely Yorkie for a decent price? I don't mean I want a puppy mill York, but my sister and I can't afford $500+ for a puppy. We have looked at rescue Yorkies, but the ones in our area have had little contact with humans and will take more time per day than we can currently offer. If you know of good Yorkie who needs a loving home in the state of Colorado, please send me a PM. We would love a little female Yorkie to spend our evenings with again.
Oh, Baby. I could not even make it through the rest of this thread yet. I am a lawyer in California (26 years) and you did not have to give her back. Police will do or say anything to "keep the peace." Regrettably, they are often the providers of the most inaccurate information. If you have already surrendered her, a court fight would be expensive. If you have not; PM me. I will walk you through this. I am so sorry.
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And could everyone cut the obligatory "can you afford a yorkie" lecture? A little compassion is in order here, not robotic repetition of the party line.
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