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DvlshAngel985 · 07-29-2011, 02:41 PM

A parti yorkie can still be registered AKC, as long as it's a purebred dog.

backwardsrain · 07-29-2011, 02:51 PM

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Does anyone know why the breeder I'm trying to research wouldn't be on the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The ClubYTCA Breeder Referral Page? Where my last Yorkie from also isn't on the list. Both breeders say they are "Proud to Register with the American Kennel Club. Hmmmm.....

Okay, I love dogs too much not to do this, but the breeder is TopKnot Golden Girl Yorkshire Terriers in Wisconsin. She also runs a dog grooming business under the same name.

I have found Top Knot Dog Grooming & Golden Girl Yorkshire Terriers - Pet Service - Shawano, WI | Facebook and puppy pic both in Wisconsin. I have looked at the pictures of their puppies and adult dogs, and I have to tell you several of them do not even look purebred to me. I would run far, far away from this breeder. Like someone else said, I recommend Breny from Home - Greens Treasured Yorkies she is in your general area, and her prices aren't much higher than this breeder you are looking at. And her dogs are DEFINITELY purebred and look how Yorkies are supposed to look. I don't know if she does health testing, etc. but if you were considering this Wisconsin breeder I'm guessing you don't care much about that anyway.

Rhetts_mama · 07-29-2011, 03:06 PM

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Thank you, everyone. On her website, she says she has AKC and CKC dogs. I had not heard of CKC before, but I will find out which she is affiliated with. I did Google searches on her and her business, but couldn't find reviews, only her website and listings leading to her website. I did send an email to the WI Kennel Club that she is affiliated with. I guess I could start there.

Thank you again!

If you know where her kennel is located, you can try searching BBB websites in her area to see if they have had any complaints.

Kirby · 07-29-2011, 04:10 PM

I did a BBB search and found nothing. Greens Treasured Yorkies, unfortunately, is not in my area. Michigan is a big state and I live at the very top. I have sent an email to the breeder asking for references and why she is also CKC registered (if it's the Canadian one). Her official website shows the AKC registered puppies and their parents. Those puppies are actually sold. The puppy remaining is the female from the CKC registered parents.

Rhetts_mama · 07-29-2011, 04:21 PM

Do you know her first and last name? (you don't need to post them here) Sometimes googling by that will get you more results than a kennel name, especially if it's a less than optimal breeder. Some have a tendency to change kennel names frequently to keep people off their trail.

I have to agree with another poster here. The yorkies look "off" to me. Whether it's the camera angles, my own bad eye sight or the result of bad breeding I can't say for certain.

Good luck in your search.

gemy · 07-29-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

I did a BBB search and found nothing. Greens Treasured Yorkies, unfortunately, is not in my area. Michigan is a big state and I live at the very top. I have sent an email to the breeder asking for references and why she is also CKC registered (if it's the Canadian one). Her official website shows the AKC registered puppies and their parents. Those puppies are actually sold. The puppy remaining is the female from the CKC registered parents.

It appears this breeder is Not an YTCA recognized breeder. It takes some amount of time and folks sponsoring you to become recognized by the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. I guess AKC might accept adds from anyone in their classifieds, and is by no means meant to be any endorsement of the breeders or puppies within those ads.

I hope this clarifies things a bit for you.

Kirby · 07-29-2011, 04:33 PM

When I typed in her first and last name and Yorkshire Terriers, I found no reviews, good or bad. Just that she has puppies both AKC and CKC registered and a dog grooming business that's apparently also a mobile dog grooming business. I did find a person on her Facebook page that mentioned she had one of her puppies. I sent her a private message.

Nancy1999 · 07-29-2011, 05:18 PM

Is this her website? Home She say on her site, "This is not a puppy mill" and that might make some people feel better, but not me. Here's her breeding dogs. my yorkie family and I'm curious to as why her parti's are all ckc, it could be due to the fact that they are not purebreds.

Kirby · 07-29-2011, 05:25 PM

That's her. I really am at a loss of what to think.

The Yorkie girl I have now is the love of my life. She means the world to me and I want to give her a little sister. She came from a local breeder that sold only AKC registered puppies and came recommended by the local kennel club. Sydney came with her papers and health guarantee. Within a year, Sydney needed double knee surgery. The breeder finally admitted another puppy in the same litter had knee trouble, but it was not a covered condition. She finally offered to take Sydney back, but by then I had fallen in love with Syd. Besides, what was the breeder going to do with her? I kept Syd. The breeder finally gave me another female Yorkie from different parents, which I gave to my parents and they love her.

My best friend bought a cute little toy mix from her neighbor lady (no papers, health guarantee, genetic testing--backyard breeder). Her dog has never had any health issues compared to my AKC registered with over $2000 in vet bills.

I guess my point is, you can never tell. I am going to see for myself, though, on Sunday. My parents and I will be driving the three hours to meet the breeder and, most importantly, the puppy and her parents.

Nancy1999 · 07-29-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

That's her. I really am at a loss of what to think.

The Yorkie girl I have now is the love of my life. She means the world to me and I want to give her a little sister. She came from a local breeder that sold only AKC registered puppies and came recommended by the local kennel club. Sydney came with her papers and health guarantee. Within a year, Sydney needed double knee surgery. The breeder finally admitted another puppy in the same litter had knee trouble, but it was not a covered condition. She finally offered to take Sydney back, but by then I had fallen in love with Syd. Besides, what was the breeder going to do with her? I kept Syd. The breeder finally gave me another female Yorkie from different parents, which I gave to my parents and they love her.

My best friend bought a cute little toy mix from her neighbor lady (no papers, health guarantee, genetic testing--backyard breeder). Her dog has never had any health issues compared to my AKC registered with over $2000 in vet bills.

I guess my point is, you can never tell.

I know that's why all those guarantees are worthless. A good breeder would have given your money back and allowed you to keep the dog. I had a horrible experience with a backyard breeder and my little dog had a genetic illness that paralyzed him. There wasn't anything the vet could do, and my sons watched in horror as the little guy deteriorated. There really are some great breeders who really are trying to do right by the breed, and are not breeding for profit. Breeders who breed for profit are going to continue to breed breeding dogs that they know carry genetic illness, and they won’t spend any money for testing. I found a great breeder through the YTCA, but if you are looking for a parti, YTCA members don’t breed for them, it’s not a part of standard and is considered a fault. There's no way I'd ever buy from an irresponsible breeder again, the money is one thing the emotional pain is another.

YorkieRose · 07-29-2011, 05:40 PM

I doubt it can be Canadian unless the dog is bred in Can...the Canadian KC is very strict...you can not live in the USA and breed Can dogs unless they are duel registered...ask Lorraine she knows all the rules.

Kirby · 07-29-2011, 05:56 PM

Oh, Nancy, my heart goes out to you. I am so sorry you and your sons had to go through that. I don't want people to think that I advocate backyard breeders. I don't. My post was meant to show that you can do everything right and still have heartache.

I'm not looking for a parti Yorkie. It just so happens the little Yorkie female I'm interested in buying has a parti mom.

My little girl is sleeping on my lap as I type. She is the most "perfect" dog in my eyes, and I hope to give her a sister soon.

Nancy1999 · 07-29-2011, 06:18 PM

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Oh, Nancy, my heart goes out to you. I am so sorry you and your sons had to go through that. I don't want people to think that I advocate backyard breeders. I don't. My post was meant to show that you can do everything right and still have heartache.

I'm not looking for a parti Yorkie. It just so happens the little Yorkie female I'm interested in buying has a parti mom.

My little girl is sleeping on my lap as I type. She is the most "perfect" dog in my eyes, and I hope to give her a sister soon.

I hope you find a little sister for her too, but if you're not looking for a parti, there are so many breeders who are open to you. I think the hardest part about buying a dog from a YTCA breeder is convincing them that you'll be a good pet owner, and since you already have a yorkie, you're half way there. Have you looked at the YTCA breeder referral site?

Here's the one's in Michigan. Call some of them and tell them about your little girl and what's happened with her. If you find one that clicks with you, don't be afraid to put your name on a waiting list. http://www.ytca.org/breeder3a.html#MI

Kirby · 07-29-2011, 06:47 PM

Hi, Nancy. It is a good suggestion for anyone to start at the ytca website. I did, but there is not a breeder anywhere near me. All of the ones on the website are over seven hours away.

Nancy1999 · 07-29-2011, 06:56 PM

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Hi, Nancy. It is a good suggestion for anyone to start at the ytca website. I did, but there is not a breeder anywhere near me. All of the ones on the website are over seven hours away.

Maybe you can call and talk to one or two, sometimes they mentor other breeders and might know of a good breeder closer. I think talking with a really good breeder teaches you so much about what you want in a breeder. Best of luck!

07-29-2011, 02:41 PM	#16
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	A parti yorkie can still be registered AKC, as long as it's a purebred dog. __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

07-29-2011, 04:21 PM	#20
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	Do you know her first and last name? (you don't need to post them here) Sometimes googling by that will get you more results than a kennel name, especially if it's a less than optimal breeder. Some have a tendency to change kennel names frequently to keep people off their trail. I have to agree with another poster here. The yorkies look "off" to me. Whether it's the camera angles, my own bad eye sight or the result of bad breeding I can't say for certain. Good luck in your search. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny. Last edited by Rhetts_mama; 07-29-2011 at 04:24 PM.

07-29-2011, 05:18 PM	#23
Nancy1999 I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 25,396 Blog Entries: 2	Is this her website? Home She say on her site, "This is not a puppy mill" and that might make some people feel better, but not me. Here's her breeding dogs. my yorkie family and I'm curious to as why her parti's are all ckc, it could be due to the fact that they are not purebreds. __________________ NancyJoey Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP! ** Just Say No to Puppymills – Join YAP! Yorkshire Terrier Club of America – Breeder Referrals

07-29-2011, 05:25 PM	#24
Kirby YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 618	That's her. I really am at a loss of what to think. The Yorkie girl I have now is the love of my life. She means the world to me and I want to give her a little sister. She came from a local breeder that sold only AKC registered puppies and came recommended by the local kennel club. Sydney came with her papers and health guarantee. Within a year, Sydney needed double knee surgery. The breeder finally admitted another puppy in the same litter had knee trouble, but it was not a covered condition. She finally offered to take Sydney back, but by then I had fallen in love with Syd. Besides, what was the breeder going to do with her? I kept Syd. The breeder finally gave me another female Yorkie from different parents, which I gave to my parents and they love her. My best friend bought a cute little toy mix from her neighbor lady (no papers, health guarantee, genetic testing--backyard breeder). Her dog has never had any health issues compared to my AKC registered with over $2000 in vet bills. I guess my point is, you can never tell. I am going to see for myself, though, on Sunday. My parents and I will be driving the three hours to meet the breeder and, most importantly, the puppy and her parents. Last edited by Kirby; 07-29-2011 at 05:27 PM.

07-29-2011, 04:10 PM	#19
Kirby YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 618	I did a BBB search and found nothing. Greens Treasured Yorkies, unfortunately, is not in my area. Michigan is a big state and I live at the very top. I have sent an email to the breeder asking for references and why she is also CKC registered (if it's the Canadian one). Her official website shows the AKC registered puppies and their parents. Those puppies are actually sold. The puppy remaining is the female from the CKC registered parents.

07-29-2011, 04:33 PM	#22
Kirby YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 618	When I typed in her first and last name and Yorkshire Terriers, I found no reviews, good or bad. Just that she has puppies both AKC and CKC registered and a dog grooming business that's apparently also a mobile dog grooming business. I did find a person on her Facebook page that mentioned she had one of her puppies. I sent her a private message.

07-29-2011, 05:40 PM	#26
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	I doubt it can be Canadian unless the dog is bred in Can...the Canadian KC is very strict...you can not live in the USA and breed Can dogs unless they are duel registered...ask Lorraine she knows all the rules.

07-29-2011, 05:56 PM	#27
Kirby YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 618	Oh, Nancy, my heart goes out to you. I am so sorry you and your sons had to go through that. I don't want people to think that I advocate backyard breeders. I don't. My post was meant to show that you can do everything right and still have heartache. I'm not looking for a parti Yorkie. It just so happens the little Yorkie female I'm interested in buying has a parti mom. My little girl is sleeping on my lap as I type. She is the most "perfect" dog in my eyes, and I hope to give her a sister soon.

07-29-2011, 06:47 PM	#29
Kirby YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 618	Hi, Nancy. It is a good suggestion for anyone to start at the ytca website. I did, but there is not a breeder anywhere near me. All of the ones on the website are over seven hours away.