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Kirby 07-29-2011 10:12 AM
Check a Breeder
 
I might be getting a new baby girl this weekend. I can't remember, though, the website to check up on breeders. She's not local. Does anyone know the name of the website and link? Her pups are CKC Registered.

susan lynn 07-29-2011 10:15 AM
I don't know the answer but I hope everything turns out good.

Deuce 07-29-2011 10:20 AM
Which website? the breeders?

CKC as in Canada or the other one? Have you been to the breeders house and met the pups, or is that what you are doing this weekend?

Kirby 07-29-2011 12:57 PM
I'll be meeting the puppy and her parents this weekend. She has AKC and CKC registered puppies. This one happens to be CKC she said. I remember seeing a long time ago on here a website you could go to for checking on breeders. Read reviews and what not. This was back in 2009. I am very excited.

I feel bad because a friend offered to sell me one of his Maltese puppies, but I really wanted a Yorkie. I told him I would take her because I know the Maltese puppy's parents and they're great. Well, now a Yorkie puppy became available by a breeder that is from outside the area, and from what I can tell, she's not a puppy mill, but I just want to make sure I know what I'm getting myself in to. Yorkies are hard to come by where I live. Where my first one came from inside the area, I won't buy from her again. I love my Yorkie, but she had health problems that the breeder didn't admit to until my vet got involved. She had a one-year health guarantee on her puppies and even came recommended by the local kennel club. Sometimes you just never know.

Nancy1999 07-29-2011 01:33 PM
Here's an article about registries. Here's what they say about the CKC.


Quote:
CKC-Continental Kennel Club (do not confuse with Canadian Kennel Club!)
CKC will recognize a cross between any two purebred dogs, and will issue a registration certificate on their offspring. These crosses are not registered as purebred dogs but are registered as the offspring of purebred dogs. CKC accepts no responsibility for any inaccurate, false, or fraudulent information submitted on registration applications. They sponsor no shows or championships. They also give big fee breaks to large kennels registering lots of dogs (such as Puppy Mills). Will register dogs not registered with other recognized registries. Registries

When the AKC started cracking down on breeders, many puppy mills left, and the turned to alternative registries. These registries do not do routine unexpected inspections like the AKC. Another reason a breeder might use the CKC is because she doesn't have breeding rights for her dogs, and can't register them with the AKC. In my opinion this is the same as stealing and you shouldn't condone it. Many people say, "Oh I'm not going to breed so I don't need a registered dog", but pet owners should be just as careful when buying a dog, its not about the dog, it's about the breeder. Don't reward backyard breeders and puppymills with your business. It's so costly to repair a sick dog, you are much better off going to a good breeder who REALLY stands behind her dog. The local kennel club recommending her wouldn't impress me, you don't know whose running the local kennel club.

backwardsrain 07-29-2011 01:35 PM
I've never heard of a website that reviews breeders, and I've researched Yorkie/Biewer breeders quite a bit. Like Deuce said, CKC as in Continental or Canada? If it's Continental, run away from that breeder. The Canada one is okay though.

Probably the best way to get reviews on that breeder is to try to search for them on yorkietalk, and see if there had been any thread about them. Or you can post the website, and we can try to tell if the breeder has any red flags or not.

Nancy1999 07-29-2011 01:45 PM
I just noticed that you live in Michigan; it's very possible that CKC is the Canadian Kennel Club and they are Canada’s AKC equivalent. In that case ignore my previous post. I agree with backwardsrain, ask yorkietalkers if they've ever heard of the person.

gemy 07-29-2011 01:48 PM
Kirby you have been here for 2 years, and not obviously a new member. Do a google search both on her kennel name, and her personal name, and see what you come up with.

CKC ie the US CKC is not reputable registry as a long termish member could know by now.

Michigan is very close to Canada in particular Ontario and so if you meant the Canadian Kennel Club, go to the Canadian Yorkshire Terrier Club to see if this is a recognized breeder by them.

I wish you luck in your search

Kirby 07-29-2011 01:53 PM
Thank you, everyone. On her website, she says she has AKC and CKC dogs. I had not heard of CKC before, but I will find out which she is affiliated with. I did Google searches on her and her business, but couldn't find reviews, only her website and listings leading to her website. I did send an email to the WI Kennel Club that she is affiliated with. I guess I could start there.

Thank you again!

Kirby 07-29-2011 02:25 PM
YTCA Breeder Referrel
 
Does anyone know why the breeder I'm trying to research wouldn't be on the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The ClubYTCA Breeder Referral Page? Where my last Yorkie from also isn't on the list. Both breeders say they are "Proud to Register with the American Kennel Club. Hmmmm.....

Okay, I love dogs too much not to do this, but the breeder is TopKnot Golden Girl Yorkshire Terriers in Wisconsin. She also runs a dog grooming business under the same name.

Kirby 07-29-2011 02:34 PM
Found her!
 
I did find her listed under AKC's classified section, so that makes me feel better. The puppy I'm buying, though, is CKC registered. The momma dog is parti Yorkie if that makes a difference as to possibly why the puppy isn't AKC registered?

gidget529 07-29-2011 02:37 PM
If this is CKC (Continental Kennel Club) I would not purchase from her.

Nancy1999 07-29-2011 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 3616499)
I did find her listed under AKC's classified section, so that makes me feel better. The puppy I'm buying, though, is CKC registered. The momma dog is parti Yorkie if that makes a difference as to possibly why the puppy isn't AKC registered?
Sorry to be so harsh, but any AKC breeder including a puppymiller can be listed under AKC classified. I wonder if they realize she's selling CKC pups through AKC classified? Let me also warn you many people list the dogs as CKC because they don't want the AKC to know how many litters they are having. The have to have more inspections as they have more litters, and puppy millers don't like inspections.

gidget529 07-29-2011 02:38 PM
I think partis are able to be registered with the AKC. I do not know Breny (a member of this site) personally, but I have heard ppl on this site say they are very happy w her pups and she is out of Michigan.

Nancy1999 07-29-2011 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 3616489)
Does anyone know why the breeder I'm trying to research wouldn't be on the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The ClubYTCA Breeder Referral Page? Where my last Yorkie from also isn't on the list. Both breeders say they are "Proud to Register with the American Kennel Club. Hmmmm.....

Okay, I love dogs too much not to do this, but the breeder is TopKnot Golden Girl Yorkshire Terriers in Wisconsin. She also runs a dog grooming business under the same name.
The YTCA is the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America. It's the mother club of the AKC and sets the standard. Very few AKC breeders qualify to join the YTCA, you have to have someone who is already a member sponsor you.


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