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Old 02-16-2011, 09:43 AM   #1
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My little fur baby is 12-1/2 weeks old and I'm having a really hard time with potty training. I have talked to the vet and she said I'm doing everything right but he is just NOT getting it. He will go outside but he also goes inside. He does not have the concept of letting me know he needs to go potty. Any advice on how to teach them to let you know they need to go outside.

If I take him out and he does not go he comes back in and goes straight to the kennel for about 15 minutes and we try again. After I finally get him to go outside then he can come in and play with the family and usually while we are playing he pees or poops again in the house. It may be 15 minutes or 1 hour you never know. It is really driving me crazy. He is so cute but we have a brand new house and I don't want him to ruin the carpet.

I always have treats in my pocket and I praise him to all ends and give him a treat when he goes outside, and I fuss and clap my hands together loudly and yell NO when he goes in the house. He runs under the sofa and hides, so he knows it is wrong. I just can't get the going to the doors thing down yet. Is he still to young?
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My little fur baby is 12-1/2 weeks old and I'm having a really hard time with potty training. I have talked to the vet and she said I'm doing everything right but he is just NOT getting it. He will go outside but he also goes inside. He does not have the concept of letting me know he needs to go potty. Any advice on how to teach them to let you know they need to go outside.

If I take him out and he does not go he comes back in and goes straight to the kennel for about 15 minutes and we try again. After I finally get him to go outside then he can come in and play with the family and usually while we are playing he pees or poops again in the house. It may be 15 minutes or 1 hour you never know. It is really driving me crazy. He is so cute but we have a brand new house and I don't want him to ruin the carpet.

I always have treats in my pocket and I praise him to all ends and give him a treat when he goes outside, and I fuss and clap my hands together loudly and yell NO when he goes in the house. He runs under the sofa and hides, so he knows it is wrong. I just can't get the going to the doors thing down yet. Is he still to young?
I know that we just got our puppy saturday. She was older. 17 weeks. She has only had 1 accident in the house and goes to the door when she needs to go. Maybe your pup is still to young. Lulu has 1 little corner of the yard where she goes to do her business... Maybe if your puppy goes poo in the house take it outside and put it where you want it to go potty. It took her forever to find her "spot" in the yard but she will not go anywhere else now. Hope it gets better for you. Its just like potty training a toddler
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I have an 11 week old - Kody. I started training him going outside as soon as we got him. It's really hard. They have go often, you just need to stay on top of it. I take Kody out about every 1-2 hours. He isn't old enough to give me a sign yet, (i.e. go to front door, bark, whimper, cry, etc.). So in the case I take when I feel he has to go. Once we are outside I say "potty" and he knows what mean. He will always pee and then if I know he has to poop, I keep saying "potty" until he poops. If he doesn't poop, will bring him back the house and put him in his crate and try again about 1/2 hr. later. I have had many accident in my house, most recently yesterday where he pee'd on the carpet a couple times and then pooped on the carpet. I immediately took him outside and then brought him back to his crate. He knew he was wrong.

It takes a lot of time and patience with these little guys. I'm still learning.

With the brand new house, you need to gate him in to a specific area like the kitchen where there is no carpet and a easy clean-up. Don't give him free range of the house - you have to have 10 eyes on him at all times if you do.
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At that age they have to go potty a lot. You should be taking the puppy out every 1-2 hours and immediately after sleeping, 15 mins after eating or drinking and playing. As they get older you can stretch it out from 1-2 hours to 2-3 and 3-4 hours.

I think you need to realize you are in for the long haul with successful potty training. A smaller breed dog is a lot hard to housebreak than a larger breed dog. It may take you many months (6-8 mos) with a strict potty regiment before your puppy will know to "ask" to go out. In the beginning, you will be more trained than your puppy. In other words, it will be you determining your puppy's little signs for when it has to go, along with your strict potty schedule.

Eventually, at some point, your puppy will get that "outside" is the only place it is allowed to go and that's when it will begin to figure out ways to tell you. Until that time, however, you are going to have to be right on top of things. Anytime it is out of it's crate, you or a family member must keep an eagle eye out on him and minimize the 'mistakes' in the house. The more you allow it (and if you are not preventing it, then you are allowing it) the harder it will be to train the puppy.

You need to lower your expectation of when think your dog should be effectively house broken, because your puppy is working at it's own pace.

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No he does not know what he is doing wrong. All he knows is that you are yelling at him and he does not like that. He does not know you are yelling at him for going potty in the house. He just knows you are yelling and he is hiding from you.

My recommendation is when you catch him going, pick him up ASAP and take him outside to finish up. If he has already gone and then you see it, say nothing. You have lost the opportunity to use it as a training moment. A dog just doesn't have the same thinking capacity as we do, and you need to catch him in the mistake, and not after the mistake.
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Hi Welcome to YT!!

Your baby is only 12 weeks old, He is NOT going to be fully potty trained until he is atleast 6 to 12 months old...it takes months to train them.

I have a 20 week old pup in training...when I got him at 12 weeks what I did is I look at him while he was in his play yard and I said need to go outside go potty and I let him out and went right to the door and I said "need to potty" and I opened the door and took him out...the whole time I'm saying "go potty" until he does than I throw a potty party and give him a treat...than we go back in and I let him play for a few minutes than I took him back outside to potty again before putting him back in his play yard...I never give him full run of the house you have to confine them to 1 room and I never take my eyes off of him when he is out of his play yard...He is 5 mos now and doesn't need to be in his play yard as much cause he lets me know now, he has to potty and can go longer in between potty breaks.

I took him outside to potty every 1 1/2 to 2 hours when he was just 12 weeks old now I'm up to every 4 to 5 hours, I take him out after he eats, after playing really hard before putting him back in his play yard...If I do catch him in the act I just walked over picked him up and said NO to him in a firm voice and quickly take him outside and say "go potty" than its back in to the play yard..no more play time.

Maybe you clapping your hands and yelling no is scaring your baby, that why he is running under the sofa...try just saying no to him and take him right outside and than put him in his play yard or crate until time to go back out....You have to set them up for success and not give them a chance to fail...You have to be consistent and very patient with them, it takes months to get a Yorkie fully house trained...They will pick it up it just takes time.

There is a thread that one of the members opened its called " the Joys and the Frustrations of a puppy....I will find the link and post it for you so you can join in and get and give great advice
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Here's the link...Good Luck!!

The joys and frustrations of having a puppy thread!!!!!
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:39 AM   #7
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ok this is what happened this morning.

I got up at 5:30am went downstairs and got Wylie out of his crate and took him outside. I had him on a leash and I repeated "Go Potty" maybe 20 times in 3 minutes. All he wanted to do was play with sticks and leaves. I would give him a gentle little tug on the leash and say go potty. He would walk around, sniff and find something else to play with, Grass, leaves, sticks. So I went in the house got his bowl of food and went straight back out, put the bowl on the patio. He ate breakfast outside and 1/2 way done he went and pooped and came back and finished eating. Still no Pee. By this time we had been out 20 minutes. I Walked thru the grass saying Go Potty and nothing for 5 more minutes. I needed to go inside and start getting ready for work. We went in a 6:00 (total of 30 minutes outside) I put him in the kennel cause I knew he had not pee'd. I went to the restroom downstairs and when I came out I checked on him before going upstairs and he had Pee'd in his Kennel. My DH said it is like he holds it outside and waits to come inside. I'm at a loss.
I have talked to a Trainer at Petsmart and she said take him out for a certain # of minutes decide on 10 or 15 and if he does not go take him back in and put him in the kennel for 15 minutes and keep repeating until he goes outside. But if he is going in the kennel What do I DO?
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My little guy is just over a year old and we are still working at it. Over time he has begun holding it while in the crate, this did not happen right away. He is real good with holding all night. So, to deal with it, we keep all doors to rooms closed and he wears a belly band all the time. Just when I thought I was done changing diapers.. Hang in there!
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12 weeks is way too young to expect any progress in house training. His bladder is SO tiny and not fully developed yet. You have to be patient. Remy is 6 months old now and I can now trust him to roam the house a little without me following him. He still has an accident every once in a while but for the most part he is doing great. He had accidents in his crate a few times as a baby but he outgrew that. A puppy doesn't like to be dirty and lay in there own pee. So they will learn but sometimes they have no choice because they have to go then. Stick to a schedule and don't give up! Good luck!!
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ok this is what happened this morning.

I got up at 5:30am went downstairs and got Wylie out of his crate and took him outside. I had him on a leash and I repeated "Go Potty" maybe 20 times in 3 minutes. All he wanted to do was play with sticks and leaves. I would give him a gentle little tug on the leash and say go potty. He would walk around, sniff and find something else to play with, Grass, leaves, sticks. So I went in the house got his bowl of food and went straight back out, put the bowl on the patio. He ate breakfast outside and 1/2 way done he went and pooped and came back and finished eating. Still no Pee. By this time we had been out 20 minutes. I Walked thru the grass saying Go Potty and nothing for 5 more minutes. I needed to go inside and start getting ready for work. We went in a 6:00 (total of 30 minutes outside) I put him in the kennel cause I knew he had not pee'd. I went to the restroom downstairs and when I came out I checked on him before going upstairs and he had Pee'd in his Kennel. My DH said it is like he holds it outside and waits to come inside. I'm at a loss.
I have talked to a Trainer at Petsmart and she said take him out for a certain # of minutes decide on 10 or 15 and if he does not go take him back in and put him in the kennel for 15 minutes and keep repeating until he goes outside. But if he is going in the kennel What do I DO?
How big is the crate? if the crate is too big he will pee on one end and sleep on the other end...he is gonna potty in it...the crate needs to be only big enough for them to stand, turn around, and lay down in and thats it...most pups will not potty where they have to sleep...if the crate is to big I would look into getting a smaller crate or put a divider in the one you have to make it smaller.

And how long is your baby in the crate while you are at work? that could be a factor too...no 12 week old pup can hold it for 8 hours or even 4 hours no matter how small the crate is they will potty cause they just can't hold it...than they think its ok to potty in the crate cause they have no other choice...and if that is the case I would recommend getting a play yard to keep your baby in while you are at work...its big enough for food/water/bed/potty pads...and if you are only working on the potty training in the mornings before work and after...its gonna take a long time if ever to get your baby pottied trained...potty training is a 24/7 training the first year

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I have two size crates. One is small for traveling and sleeping at night and the other is larger (the vet told me to get one big enough for when he is older) I use the larger one while at work. It is large enough for everything to fit in, although I was told, by the vet, not to do food all day just mornings and nights. 24 hour acess to food makes potty training harder she said. I understand that he is not old enough to hold it all day while I'm at work, but I really think my fustrations are coming from when I get home and take him out if he doesn't go then I put him back in the crate for 15-20 minutes and try again. We do this from 5 until 10 at night and he just will not go outside or if he does he still comes inside and does it again. When he goes outside we celebrate with treats and hugs and kisses and tons of praises - "Good Boys" I feel like I'm leaving him in the crate to much cause he will not potty outside and after being outside and not going he has to go back to the crate and my son wants to play with him.
I have read on here that some are 10-12 weeks old and already pad trained and mine just plays with and shreds the potty pads. He is very playful and wants to play all the time. Even when we need to be serious and potty outside. Wylie was my son's birthday present and he is an only child. He wants a play buddy and I feel like I'm depriving both of them.
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I'm having pretty good luck so far with mine so far (with the potty pads).. but I think it's only because I put his potty pads in a place he likes to handle his business.. lol.. when he's in the front of the house he'll stop anywhere and go.... yikes! I think it just takes patience and time..
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