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MSmith90 · 02-16-2011, 01:14 AM

So here's my story: It's 4 am, I'm tired, I'm angry, and I'm fed up.

I don't know what to do any more. When I first got Bigsby he slept in his kennel without any problem. A few times he would whine for maybe 10 minutes tops, and then settle down and go to bed. I would let him up on my bed some nights, but he didn't seem to mind whenever he had to go back into the crate. The reason I'm keeping him in his kennel is because I won't be here every night, I'm going back to college this fall and he needs to learn that sometimes there isn't going to be anyone else to sleep with. I don't understand why NOW all of a sudden he whines ALL. NIGHT. LONG.

I've spent the past two hours cry and pleading for him to just lay down and go to sleep. Over and over. I've left the room and it just escalates. I don't know what to do. I have a 9 hour shift today and I can't take this. I cannot do this. I don't know what to do. My mom finally came down and took him upstairs with her, just letting him get what he wants, so now he's just been reinforced that he can just whine and eventually someone is going to let him out of the kennel. I'm SICK of this.

If ANYONE has ANY idea as to what I should do, PLEASE let me know.

Mind you, if I seem angry, I'm not... I'm absolutely furious. You have to remember, I'm running on maybe one hour of restless sleep and have to go to work in 6 hours. Already past the point where sleep comes easy, and I'm ready to rip out all my hair. I already taken anti-anxiety medication, this issue is NOT helping in any way shape or form so I would appreciate a little sympathy and people not just telling me to not put him in the crate... after all, I didn't spend 150 dollars on it just to NOT use it.

yorkieusa · 02-16-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MSmith90

So here's my story: It's 4 am, I'm tired, I'm angry, and I'm fed up.

I don't know what to do any more. When I first got Bigsby he slept in his kennel without any problem. A few times he would whine for maybe 10 minutes tops, and then settle down and go to bed. I would let him up on my bed some nights, but he didn't seem to mind whenever he had to go back into the crate. The reason I'm keeping him in his kennel is because I won't be here every night, I'm going back to college this fall and he needs to learn that sometimes there isn't going to be anyone else to sleep with. I don't understand why NOW all of a sudden he whines ALL. NIGHT. LONG.

I've spent the past two hours cry and pleading for him to just lay down and go to sleep. Over and over. I've left the room and it just escalates. I don't know what to do. I have a 9 hour shift today and I can't take this. I cannot do this. I don't know what to do. My mom finally came down and took him upstairs with her, just letting him get what he wants, so now he's just been reinforced that he can just whine and eventually someone is going to let him out of the kennel. I'm SICK of this.

If ANYONE has ANY idea as to what I should do, PLEASE let me know.

Mind you, if I seem angry, I'm not... I'm absolutely furious. You have to remember, I'm running on maybe one hour of restless sleep and have to go to work in 6 hours. Already past the point where sleep comes easy, and I'm ready to rip out all my hair. I already taken anti-anxiety medication, this issue is NOT helping in any way shape or form so I would appreciate a little sympathy and people not just telling me to not put him in the crate... after all, I didn't spend 150 dollars on it just to NOT use it.

No sympathy here. Sorry, but once you put them in your bed, they don't understand why they can't be there all of the time. So, stop being furious and try to be understanding of why he is crying.

Have a question. Do I understand that you are going back to school soon and will be leaving him with your mom anyway?

katarina · 02-16-2011, 08:06 AM

I agree with Karen, although I'm a new yorkie owner I have never brought my baby in bed with me and I don't let anyone in my family either. He doesn't even cry at night now, only when he's first in his crate for a few minutes then off to bed. You might have to restart again... put him in his kennel and let him know that you won't pick him up if he cries. If you can't sleep put his kennel in a different room where you can still sleep.. I think he'll eventually learn that once he's in the kennel, that's his bed and no other is
Good Luck!

Perrella · 02-16-2011, 08:09 AM

I have to say...you changed the pace by letting him come to bed. You can't expect him to understand, when it's not convenient for you. So, that bridge is burned.

How about this to resolve, if you are there he could sleep with you, if not and your mom finally came downstairs .....on nights you aren't there, why then can't he sleep with her?

YorkieRose · 02-16-2011, 08:10 AM

This is good training for parenthood...same rules everyday..no changing horses in the middle of the stream...it is confusing to dogs and kids if one day you have one set of rules of behavior and then the next it is totally different...

Dzbabykel · 02-16-2011, 08:13 AM

My baby cried a lot at first in his crate but its just because he wants to be with you. Try putting his crate on your bed or next to your bed on the night stand so he can see you. I had to first put my hand in the crate for him to stop crying so he could fall asleep and then gradually he would sleep without my hand having to be in there, and so forth. I may have been a bit drastic but it worked and now that he's older and I'm home every night he DOES sleep in bed with me, but if you want him to get used to the crate you need to work with him slowly.

R_Z · 02-16-2011, 08:18 AM

I've only had Buddy just over a week now, but I can tell you, Yorkie's are special dogs. They love being with their masters and really enjoy going on walks, being played with and being part of your life. Buddy sleeps with us and so far has never once been a problem. He doesn't moan, cry or complain through the night.

Owning any animal is a big commitment. They need attention and lots of personal time. They can't just be thrown in a crate and expected to be happy about it. It sounds like you're gone most of the day and your mom has your responsibilites with the poor little dog.

It's your call, but the dog deserves more than a few hours of play time and then a lock down in a cell.

jennzy · 02-16-2011, 08:19 AM

you need more patience.... you can't get annoyed at this small situation only because your dog is young. having a new puppy will definately test you on many levels and you need to remain calm and not angry (especially at the dog). that being said, i agree with other people's comments. you need to retrain your dog and give some tough love. if the dog is whinning let it be. don't go and baby it because it will continue to throw tamper tantrums.

It seems like you have a lot going on. school, work, social life etc. until your pup is older i think you need to prioritize to fit your puppy. puppies are a lot of work!

Ringo1 · 02-16-2011, 08:20 AM

Well. Having dealt with a colicky newborn (i.e. up all night) and having to show up for work in the morning ~ I can identify with your frustration. It's hard.

BUT, he is picking up on your frustration, anger; and stress. That is not helping him to sleep in his crate.

And, just like I should have listened with my pediatrician said "Never, ever put your baby in bed with you" . .probably you should not have allowed it either. My own son slept in my bed until I was finally able to get him out. Probably every Mom has heard of the 'Ferber' method. No fun.

Your furbaby is no different. He got used to sleeping next to your warm body and hearbeat and he liked it. He doesnt understand what you are trying to accomplish; he doesn't understand that you are tired and have to work; all that is beyond what he can comprehend.

IF you are determined for him to sleep in his crate, you are going to have to tough it out for a few nights. That means, no crying and begging with him. That means, fix up his crate with some lovely warm blankets, a favorite toy or chewy . . and leave him alone. Yes, he will cry for a few night; but he will soon learn that he must now sleep in his crate.

Either that or give in and let him sleep in your bed so you will both get some rest.

Think that's hard? Try it with a baby.

107barney · 02-16-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzbabykel

My baby cried a lot at first in his crate but its just because he wants to be with you. Try putting his crate on your bed or next to your bed on the night stand so he can see you. I had to first put my hand in the crate for him to stop crying so he could fall asleep and then gradually he would sleep without my hand having to be in there, and so forth. I may have been a bit drastic but it worked and now that he's older and I'm home every night he DOES sleep in bed with me, but if you want him to get used to the crate you need to work with him slowly.

This is the suggestion I was going to give

chachi · 02-16-2011, 08:42 AM

He just wants to be near you. Put the crate on a night stand where he can see you. Good luck

Her Name Is Rio · 02-16-2011, 08:59 AM

As others have said, once you've let him sleep in your bed with you, it will be extremely difficult to get him to accept his crate. Yorkies aboslutely crave that human connection and that's what I love about them! I just gave up on the crate training one night and have had the best sleep since. Now Bullet and Rio take up the majority of the space on our King sized bed, while my hubby and I sleep on the edge, ever aware of our 3 lb. babies! And I wouldn't have it any other way.

yorkie mad · 02-16-2011, 09:34 AM

I will give you some sympathy, it can be very demanding the first few months with a puppy especially a yorkie puppy. They are very much like having a skin baby. Anyhow I disagree with some on here and agree with others.My two adapt very easily to where they sleep . On occasions they sleep in our bed or next to it in their own bed or when we are on holiday they sleep downstairs in the dining room and they just adapt to where I decide they sleep however your baby is a puppy and like someone said your baby just needs to be near you. I would put the crate next to your bed so your baby feels secure and then you can both sleep. Good luck xx

Deuce · 02-16-2011, 09:35 AM

This is why Rizzo slept in his crate from day one, up until he was neutered and had been sleeping all through the night for a couple months. Now he knows, if he goes into the crate it's sleepy time, and it's totally pointless to moan about it because somehow every time he goes in there, his "skin-mom" goes deaf, lol. I don't see the problem with letting him sleep in your bed if you've already started it, if you aren't there he can sleep with your mom...(at least that is how it sounds from your post)
Sorry, but it's hard to change their routines once you get them started, he prefers sleeping next to you over sleeping alone in a crate. I can dig it. Good luck, but it sounds like you're going to have a rough few days of no sleep from having to ignore the puppy cries. Oh, and talking to him, or coming into the room where he is to ask him to be quiet isn't going to help at all. It just shows him that you do hear him and if he cries more then maybe you'll let him out. If you insist he sleeps in the crate, move the crate to your room where he can see you, it should help...

MyLilyRose · 02-16-2011, 09:42 AM

You can try putting something with your scent on it in the crate with him..

02-16-2011, 01:14 AM	#1
MSmith90 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 5	TIRED. Help. So here's my story: It's 4 am, I'm tired, I'm angry, and I'm fed up. I don't know what to do any more. When I first got Bigsby he slept in his kennel without any problem. A few times he would whine for maybe 10 minutes tops, and then settle down and go to bed. I would let him up on my bed some nights, but he didn't seem to mind whenever he had to go back into the crate. The reason I'm keeping him in his kennel is because I won't be here every night, I'm going back to college this fall and he needs to learn that sometimes there isn't going to be anyone else to sleep with. I don't understand why NOW all of a sudden he whines ALL. NIGHT. LONG. I've spent the past two hours cry and pleading for him to just lay down and go to sleep. Over and over. I've left the room and it just escalates. I don't know what to do. I have a 9 hour shift today and I can't take this. I cannot do this. I don't know what to do. My mom finally came down and took him upstairs with her, just letting him get what he wants, so now he's just been reinforced that he can just whine and eventually someone is going to let him out of the kennel. I'm SICK of this. If ANYONE has ANY idea as to what I should do, PLEASE let me know. Mind you, if I seem angry, I'm not... I'm absolutely furious. You have to remember, I'm running on maybe one hour of restless sleep and have to go to work in 6 hours. Already past the point where sleep comes easy, and I'm ready to rip out all my hair. I already taken anti-anxiety medication, this issue is NOT helping in any way shape or form so I would appreciate a little sympathy and people not just telling me to not put him in the crate... after all, I didn't spend 150 dollars on it just to NOT use it. __________________ "Don't breed or buy while homeless animals die!!"

02-16-2011, 08:06 AM	#3
katarina Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 122	I agree with Karen, although I'm a new yorkie owner I have never brought my baby in bed with me and I don't let anyone in my family either. He doesn't even cry at night now, only when he's first in his crate for a few minutes then off to bed. You might have to restart again... put him in his kennel and let him know that you won't pick him up if he cries. If you can't sleep put his kennel in a different room where you can still sleep.. I think he'll eventually learn that once he's in the kennel, that's his bed and no other is Good Luck! __________________ Katarina & Totoro

02-16-2011, 08:09 AM	#4
Perrella Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: VA Posts: 8,040	I have to say...you changed the pace by letting him come to bed. You can't expect him to understand, when it's not convenient for you. So, that bridge is burned. How about this to resolve, if you are there he could sleep with you, if not and your mom finally came downstairs .....on nights you aren't there, why then can't he sleep with her? __________________ Tena & Zhoie Sweet Little Miracle

02-16-2011, 08:13 AM	#6
Dzbabykel Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Gainesville, VA Posts: 1,173	My baby cried a lot at first in his crate but its just because he wants to be with you. Try putting his crate on your bed or next to your bed on the night stand so he can see you. I had to first put my hand in the crate for him to stop crying so he could fall asleep and then gradually he would sleep without my hand having to be in there, and so forth. I may have been a bit drastic but it worked and now that he's older and I'm home every night he DOES sleep in bed with me, but if you want him to get used to the crate you need to work with him slowly. __________________ Kelly, mommy to little Oliver *"The more boys I meet, the more I love my dog."* http://www.eat-yourself-skinny.com/

02-16-2011, 08:20 AM	#9
Ringo1 Ringo (1) and Lucy too! Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the Edge of Glory Posts: 3,447	Well. Having dealt with a colicky newborn (i.e. up all night) and having to show up for work in the morning ~ I can identify with your frustration. It's hard. BUT, he is picking up on your frustration, anger; and stress. That is not helping him to sleep in his crate. And, just like I should have listened with my pediatrician said "Never, ever put your baby in bed with you" . .probably you should not have allowed it either. My own son slept in my bed until I was finally able to get him out. Probably every Mom has heard of the 'Ferber' method. No fun. Your furbaby is no different. He got used to sleeping next to your warm body and hearbeat and he liked it. He doesnt understand what you are trying to accomplish; he doesn't understand that you are tired and have to work; all that is beyond what he can comprehend. IF you are determined for him to sleep in his crate, you are going to have to tough it out for a few nights. That means, no crying and begging with him. That means, fix up his crate with some lovely warm blankets, a favorite toy or chewy . . and leave him alone. Yes, he will cry for a few night; but he will soon learn that he must now sleep in his crate. Either that or give in and let him sleep in your bed so you will both get some rest. Think that's hard? Try it with a baby. __________________ Mommy to Lucy, Ringo, and Matthew

02-16-2011, 08:10 AM	#5
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	This is good training for parenthood...same rules everyday..no changing horses in the middle of the stream...it is confusing to dogs and kids if one day you have one set of rules of behavior and then the next it is totally different...

02-16-2011, 08:18 AM	#7
R_Z Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Memphis, TN USA Posts: 1,078	I've only had Buddy just over a week now, but I can tell you, Yorkie's are special dogs. They love being with their masters and really enjoy going on walks, being played with and being part of your life. Buddy sleeps with us and so far has never once been a problem. He doesn't moan, cry or complain through the night. Owning any animal is a big commitment. They need attention and lots of personal time. They can't just be thrown in a crate and expected to be happy about it. It sounds like you're gone most of the day and your mom has your responsibilites with the poor little dog. It's your call, but the dog deserves more than a few hours of play time and then a lock down in a cell.

02-16-2011, 08:19 AM	#8
jennzy YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: TOronto, Canada Posts: 804	you need more patience.... you can't get annoyed at this small situation only because your dog is young. having a new puppy will definately test you on many levels and you need to remain calm and not angry (especially at the dog). that being said, i agree with other people's comments. you need to retrain your dog and give some tough love. if the dog is whinning let it be. don't go and baby it because it will continue to throw tamper tantrums. It seems like you have a lot going on. school, work, social life etc. until your pup is older i think you need to prioritize to fit your puppy. puppies are a lot of work!

02-16-2011, 08:42 AM	#11
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	He just wants to be near you. Put the crate on a night stand where he can see you. Good luck __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

02-16-2011, 08:59 AM	#12
Her Name Is Rio Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fremont, CA, USA Posts: 487	As others have said, once you've let him sleep in your bed with you, it will be extremely difficult to get him to accept his crate. Yorkies aboslutely crave that human connection and that's what I love about them! I just gave up on the crate training one night and have had the best sleep since. Now Bullet and Rio take up the majority of the space on our King sized bed, while my hubby and I sleep on the edge, ever aware of our 3 lb. babies! And I wouldn't have it any other way. __________________ With love from Rio, Bullet, & Alice

02-16-2011, 09:34 AM	#13
yorkie mad ♥Tiny Tia my Furbaby♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: portsmouth england Posts: 1,824 Blog Entries: 7	I will give you some sympathy, it can be very demanding the first few months with a puppy especially a yorkie puppy. They are very much like having a skin baby. Anyhow I disagree with some on here and agree with others.My two adapt very easily to where they sleep . On occasions they sleep in our bed or next to it in their own bed or when we are on holiday they sleep downstairs in the dining room and they just adapt to where I decide they sleep however your baby is a puppy and like someone said your baby just needs to be near you. I would put the crate next to your bed so your baby feels secure and then you can both sleep. Good luck xx __________________ Lots of love from Julie , Olly &Tia's mummy. Yorkies leave paw prints on our hearts

02-16-2011, 09:35 AM	#14
Deuce No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,717 Blog Entries: 1	This is why Rizzo slept in his crate from day one, up until he was neutered and had been sleeping all through the night for a couple months. Now he knows, if he goes into the crate it's sleepy time, and it's totally pointless to moan about it because somehow every time he goes in there, his "skin-mom" goes deaf, lol. I don't see the problem with letting him sleep in your bed if you've already started it, if you aren't there he can sleep with your mom...(at least that is how it sounds from your post) Sorry, but it's hard to change their routines once you get them started, he prefers sleeping next to you over sleeping alone in a crate. I can dig it. Good luck, but it sounds like you're going to have a rough few days of no sleep from having to ignore the puppy cries. Oh, and talking to him, or coming into the room where he is to ask him to be quiet isn't going to help at all. It just shows him that you do hear him and if he cries more then maybe you'll let him out. If you insist he sleeps in the crate, move the crate to your room where he can see you, it should help...

02-16-2011, 09:42 AM	#15
MyLilyRose Donating YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: The Colony, TX Posts: 295	You can try putting something with your scent on it in the crate with him.. __________________ Marley Noelle's album "My sunshine doesn't come from the skies, it comes from the love in my dogs eyes."