What is a baby doll face yorkie? Can someone show me what they look like?

[YorkieGirls4me]

<<What's with the chip on your shoulder?>>
Just offering a little education...so do you have no problem with the term "teacup"??? Just tired of people using the term b/c they think it will improve what people think of their yorkies...just thought some people would be interested to know what the cose of ethics for the YTCA states...did you not know this? Well then that is why I shared

<<Who is your breeder friend?>>
I am not here to throw people's names around...if she decides to join I am sure she will introduce herself...

Very relaxed here...

Denise

[PetitePawz]

Hannah Your furbaby is adorable! As are all the other furkids
And I myself prefere the " babydoll" face.And have seen many of this "type" of face in the showring.
I agree with Irene, It's used as a descriptive term.Oh and Irene... Sultan is awesome as are his little pups in the photo's.

My advice is always this ......When searching for your new Yorkie pup. make sure you see the Sire and Dam.If you prefere a certain look "type" be sure to research many breeders and see what kind of pups they are producing. Never let looks get in the way of Health and Temperment. Do your research and never impulse purchase your new furry friend. Congrats on your new furbaby, wishing you many years of happiness together.

[YorkieGirls4me]

yes pippinsmom your baby is adorable...and my reply was not to cause trouble, more to take the opportunity to try and educate, i am very happy to hear that most people here feel the same way!

Denise

[YorkieRini]

You know, I had a moment I forgot I don't use the term Baby Faced usually. I like to use 'Smoooooshy Face'...

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

To put my .2 cents in here....I am not trying to offend you Denise, but there are as many people here who agree with you as disagree, so here is the other side of the coin and this is just my personal opinion...I am speaking for no other members but myself as some do not choose to get involved in these debates but I, like you, like to educate:

Not everyone here agrees with the YTCA or the yorkie "breed standard" that they espouse. I am one of those members. The YTCA is made up of about 500+- members who enjoy the hobby of showing yokies. 99% of the people who own and love this breed do not belong to the YTCA and do not show their dogs. As far as I know, of the over 6000+ members here, none belong to the YTCA. I think there membership actually frowns on breeders who are on so called "pet forums" and they can be asked to resign for assocaiting with us.

While I do appreciate some of what the YTCA members have done to "improve" the breed, I think there are many many more reputable breeders who breed for companion dogs and are ethical and have even HIGHER standards than the YTCA.

I disagree vehemently with the archaic and barbaric tradition of docking tails for instance which has been banned in a lot of countries as cruel and barbaric but is still required for a dog to win in the show ring here. My parti-colored yorkie would not be alive if it were up to the YTCA who condoned the practice of "culling" these innocent beauties until recently.

I am well aware that the YTCA does not allow it's members to use the terms "teacup" and "babydoll" faced but the fact is that to the general population these are descriptive terms and not always used to market a dog. I think yorkie fanciers need to "get over it"! I mean Target now uses the term teacup as a doggy clothing size for goodness sakes! Many reputable breeders who love the breed and there babies and breed for the best use the terms you cringe from. I have three beautiful healthy yorkies and none came from a YTCA member but all were "reputable" breeders and had lengthy questionnaires and interview processes for choosing the adoptives parents for their babies.

We all disagree with the use of any term to misrepresent or a market a dog deceptively including teacup, micro-mini, purse puppy, babyfaced, teddy bear faced, designer or whatever but the majority of people do not use the terms for anything other than descriptions so we, on YT, have learned not to jump on anyone who uses the terms unless they are using them to misrepresent something for something it is not.

That said...welcome to YT...your views and opinions will only make us ever so much more knowledgable about this breed we all love to love! Hopefully, we have also opend up a whole new world for you as well where teacup is not a dirty word, but a cute word to describe a cute dog like "toy" since yorkies are a "toy breed" according to the AKC.

[jesscruz]

Originally Posted by socal


We all disagree with the use of any term to misrepresent or a market a dog deceptively including [I

teacup, micro-mini, purse puppy, babyfaced, teddy bear faced, designer[/I] or whatever but the majority of people do not use the terms for anything other than descriptions so we, on YT, have learned not to jump on anyone who uses the terms unless they are using them to misrepresent something for something it is not.

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sorry kim, but i do not agree with you i think majority of people who do use these terms use these as "marketing words". that is how this all got started imo, by some shady breeders trying to rip people off by giving these dogs a "fancy" name and making it seem like their way more special than the average dog.

[cheryl000]

I agree with jesscruz. Just the other day at petsmart some lady walked up to me and said that my yorkie was big for her age. She's 12 weeks and 2lbs. I was kind of offended, how could she call my puppy fat when according to weight charts she's not going to be over the standard? Sheesh, how much smaller do you want? Another lady said proudly that her yorkie a teacup and the smallest of the litter. I think she might of gotten offended when I said, "Oh, so she's the runt?" But hey, it's the truth.
Bad breeders or brokers try to make others think smaller is better. I think it intentionally misleads them to think that teacup=3 lbs and below, etc. It makes people think that smaller is better and in a whole different catagory.Anyways, I think the term teacup makes the average woman want one because they fit in your purse and can carry around everywhere. A dog is not an assesory. It is a life and what are you going to do if it goes out of style? Since there is a demand now for these types of dogs, this has lead to unethical breeding practices of the breeding of two runts(the unhealthiest of the litter) to eachother.
I wish the media would put a stop to it. I wish Paris or Britney would make a statement about "teacups" and their usual health problems. Or at least talk about how to stear clear of breeders who use the term "teacup" exclusively.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by jesscruz

sorry kim, but i do not agree with you i think majority of people who do use these terms use these as "marketing words". that is how this all got started imo, by some shady breeders trying to rip people off by giving these dogs a "fancy" name and making it seem like their way more special than the average dog.

Well...All I can say is here we go again.

I know we all describe our yorkies affectionately & most of us DO NOT USE those terms...I think the terms are marketing tools and used to increase prices when people are selling their puppies -

People ask me all the time about Chanel's breeder (who uses the word teacup and believe me - Chanel's Breeder does NOT sell small yorkies) ....

She also uses the words DOLL FACE and her yorkies look just like all our yorkies - no different to me than any yorkie I see here - It is a MAJOR selling tool on her website - Her yorkies are average and actually on the large side - it sure doesn't stop her from throwing descriptive words around - AND getting away with it

I happened to get VERY lucky with Chanel as I think she is a gorgeous little girl - when I found her - I went by how I FELT when I met her... and no WORD would have made me love her more or more special to me

I THINK Cheri has what is called a Doll face - When I went to a yorkie show many of the gorgeous yorkies there had the same face as Cheri....but again....You won't see me using the words Baby Doll....I just call her CUTE.

ps. Baby Doll and Teacup and other words are a great way for a breeder to tack on a few thousand when selling their puppies - it does NOT guarantee that you will get a healthy pretty yorkie -
I'm not saying breeders here do this - but look on the net - it's a SELLING TOOL and yorkies are getting outrageously priced due to going smaller and words such as what this thread is about.

[red98vett]

and to add to my post - I've heard the prices of a few "Doll-Faced" yorkies on this site - all I could say when I heard the price was WOW.

[red98vett]

Jesscruz and Cheryl...I totally agreed with both your posts - I also wish the silly Celebs would get their acts together and educate people on their tiny dogs - they've started a craze and I think in the long run - yorkies will suffer for it by unethical breeders going smaller and smaller - and using terms like TEACUP and Baby-Doll just to profit from these gorgeous dogs who need NO enhancement

A Baby Doll is something little girls play with.

GAZOU - that was a very beautiful yorkie picture you posted - She/He is stunning

[YorkieRini]

I totally appreciate differences of opinions and understanding others points of views. I too cringe when I see ads for puppies for outrageous prices with those descriptive words (Teacup, MicroMini, Baby Doll Face). That's when, IMO the terms used to draw in buyers to pay the higher price and is unethical. As for mentioning it casually like in this thread and having fun with it I really don't see the harm.

Affectionately yours,
Wini

[Hannah]

Originally Posted by PetitePawz

Hannah Your furbaby is adorable! aimeeyork

Thank You!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I totally appreciate differences of opinions and understanding others points of views. I too cringe when I see ads for puppies for outrageous prices with those descriptive words (Teacup, MicroMini, Baby Doll Face). That's when, IMO the terms used to draw in buyers to pay the higher price and is unethical. As for mentioning it casually like in this thread and having fun with it I really don't see the harm.

Affectionately yours,
Wini

I happen to agree with you - I have no problem with someone using the words - I just don't agree with them as reasons to increase prices - and your yorkies are beautiful enough where you need NO cute terms - your yorkies sell themselves Miss Irene

[Gazou]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Jesscruz and Cheryl...I totally agreed with both your posts - I also wish the silly Celebs would get their acts together and educate people on their tiny dogs - they've started a craze and I think in the long run - yorkies will suffer for it by unethical breeders going smaller and smaller - and using terms like TEACUP and Baby-Doll just to profit from these gorgeous dogs who need NO enhancement

A Baby Doll is something little girls play with.

GAZOU - that was a very beautiful yorkie picture you posted - She/He is stunning

The picture is one of Ashley . All my Yorkies have short noses but I don't call them Babydoll faces . Sometimes , I call them my little devils in disguise because they can be real little arrogant ones despite their adorable little faces . Around here Yorkies with longer noses are often called Pixie Faces . IMO... A Yorkie is a Yorkie no matter his or her look . When the girls will have pups , I will never use one of those terms to describe the little ones .

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I happen to agree with you - I have no problem with someone using the words - I just don't agree with them as reasons to increase prices - and your yorkies are beautiful enough where you need NO cute terms - your yorkies sell themselves Miss Irene

Awww, why thank ya darlin'! I think they is booty-full too! But you have some really purrrdy girls too. Sultan told me so
I did post a thread with Fabian saying he's got the sought after 'babydoll' face, but now I wish I didn't I don't want to com across as someone that's unethical just because I said 'the word'..lolol. Thanks for helping me re-think this.

But on another note. I have had breeders talk out of both sides of their mouths. They would condem me for using smooshy or baby faced while talking to them on the phone, yet they would not think twice about selling something that has a genetic defect for breeding or using it in their program. But by golly, they don't use the term baby faced or teacup.
So, I just want to add to the good points mentioned about about the sales pitches, don't think you're safe from buying from someone that doesn't use the term. The best way to research a breeder is by going to visit see the conditions the pups are raised in, get references, and ask tough questions about genetic defects. More food for thought!

Hugs,
Irene