Some people!!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by camile

Not to beat a dead horse but.......I don't think the point here whether we can and have asked questions that someone else thought was stupid or silly at best, but rather how much information should a breeder offer to a prospective buyer when it is obvious that the person is not a good candidate to purchase a puppy.

We get mad all the time at unscrupulous breeders then when one shows up and has denied someone, she is scolded for not offering Yorkie 101 when its obvious its going to take much more than answering a few questions, silly or otherwise. This is the point I am trying to make.

I believe every question deserves an answer whether you are going to make a sale or not. I personally love to share my knowledge with anyone.

I had a buyer call me the other day, she had only had the puppy a day, and she was concerned as to what to do, because the puppy cried everytime she was out of the puppy's sight.

I assured this was a normal thing for puppies durning the adjustment. Told her she could either let the puppy cry, or go and carry her around, warning her that she did not want to start anything that she did not want to become a habit.

She called me back last night and said they puppy is getting along well and no longer cries when she is out of sight.

I did not feel that she was unfit to have the puppy just because she didn't realize it would cry once she got her home.

[BiewerMommy]

Originally Posted by BiewerMommy

I probably should have posted my feelings in its own threat.

I meant its own thread. Oops. LOL see I can say stupid things. I can and will always laugh at myself though. Ha ha

[camile]

I wouldn't have thought her unfit either. The difference is, she asked a direct question regarding her puppy's behavior and you gave her the answer. I still think this is a totally different situation.

[Belladonna1]

Originally Posted by BiewerMommy

While being a member here on YT has provided a ton of information; many are often critical of those that aren't as full of knowledge about the breed. I personally question how can people become familiar with the breed and share the joy that these wonderful babies provide if they aren't able to feel comfortable asking some dumb questions. There are plenty of dumb owners but there are many that are trying to familiarize themselves with the breed and unfortunately many people are quick to be critical of their questions. As a breeder you have a right to be concerned over who will care for you amazing babies but if it were me I would relish in the ability to encourage others to realize how amazing these wonderful animals are. Just my humble opinion. Hope I don't offend just offering an alternative view point.

The Dumb question Asked is no question at all!

[Belladonna1]

I totaly agree, Ive had my yorkies for 3 years now, and was nurves about posting any questions about my female being preg, Because every post Id read where a newbe had asked a whelping question, most were quick to judge, Why are you breeding? or because you havent had 20 years experience breeding you shouldnt be doing it or even asking a question about it, but how do we learn if we dont ask? Eevery one of us had to start from the bottom and work our way up in the learning process of caring for a yorkie. I was always tought a dumb question asked is the question that wasnt asked! Now mind you there are those out there that have no bussiness breeding or even having a yorkie, But when someone ask a simple question and reply is judemental and rude why would they even come back to yorkie talk for more info, Just to note* There have been some really good people on here that has gave me some really great info and helped me along with my yorkies, Never judgmental. And for that Iam greatful,

[sadies mom]

I agree there is no dumb question, but..............really is there and breed of dog that is born with a full coat or should I say long hair???? IDK

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by sadies mom

I agree there is no dumb question, but..............really is there and breed of dog that is born with a full coat or should I say long hair???? IDK

I don't think there are any puppies born with long hair. I thought it a pretty odd question for a VET to ask! Surely any VET would know that no puppy is born with long hair. Would make be pretty leery about any advice the guy would try to dispense.

I do remember being surprised when I found out what yorkie puppies were supposed to look like. It was the color, not the length of hair that surprised me though. Still, I am sure there were plenty of things that I did not know that a breeder would have thought basics. Everyone is different.

[DaniMarie]

I don't post here as often as I should...but I wanted to add a point a few others made.

I see both sides of the topic.

When I went searching for a puppy after a tragic family event (I am a huge cat person and have always had cats but for a long long time I had an urge to try out dogs, and I'm SO happy God sent me a Yorkie!).......I was very uneducated, but I found, SO WERE 99% of the breeders I spoke to.

When I did a breed search, I decided for sure I wanted a Bichon. I started dealing with some very questionable breeders and I knew little to nothing about any breed of dog so I took their word for it.

Like another member said, THANK GOD I found Yorkie talk days after I got my Yorkie....and I only happened upon her by accident researching another pup and the breeder had a picture of her that I fell in love with.

I think it is honorable and amazing that great breeders like OP exist. A true love for the breed and for their pups. I didn't come across many of these in my search and I'm a little OCD about thingss, so I did do my research, I was just getting information from all the wrong places. It actually took me a few days of forum searching to find YT and I haven't posted anywhere else since.

I also didn't know the true price of the breed. Everyone had a different answer. My long time vet that I bring my cats to even told me there are different prices depending on if it's a "teacup" or not. (yeah, an old man VET didn't know the teacup myth that I came to learn on here) I would actually try to haggle with breeders because I was told this is what you do (I got my Poppy at a lower price than she was listed....$300 less, so clearly the breeder I went through wasn't as great as she seemed at the time, as it was CLEAR I knew absolutely ZERO about Yorkies when she sent Poppy off with me)

Reputable breeders are really harder to find than most of you think, being in the breeding community. For first time Yorkie owners, it's a huge trial finding the dog then learning everything about the dog. You expect the breeder to help you along with any questions but even questions I had asked the breeder, I came to find out were not true on here.

I am blessed that I got a happy, VERY healthy little puppy who has lightened up my life.....but it could have gone very different for me being a first time buyer.

I commend the breeder for being so on top of her game, but also think that maybe you WONDERFUL BREEDERS should just take a deep breath and try to understand a little that sometimes, although it may seem like someone is trying to get a dog to treat as a handbag or new pair of shoes, they may have different reasons and just not understand everything there is to know. (and we all know, there is A LOT to know)

I would also recommend guiding anyone who is professing they're buying a Yorkie to this site, I really REALLY wish I had found it prior to getting my dog.

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by rscaggs

Just wanted to vent that some people need to research and learn about the breed they are going to get! Long story-short I had a lady email me about one of my pups and wanted to see pics-I sent the pics, she emails back stating that she wanted a "long haired yorkie." I email her back asking her what exactly she was talking about?? That if you choose to have a yorkie with long hair-you groom, brush, and do all the work it takes and let it grow out. She stated that she didnt know that and she assumed that they were born with a full coat, because all the pics of yorkie she had seen had longer coats!!!! I basically told her in a nice way that i wouldnt want her to have a pup of mine and that she needed to educate herself more before considering to get one-and that if you always assume that you make a a** out of you! She was even telling me that she only wanted to spend a hundred and some dollars for one anyway. I feel like I have priced my pups very well, and was not even going to consider that amount, and that she could find a nice one at a rescue or shelter.

Gee. I'm no brain surgeon but even I didn't think that a yorkie was BORN with a full, flowing coat! I mean, come on, that's pretty basic.

[jacquelinebabco]

I got my first Yorkie because a friend of a friend had one and I loved the size. I knew nothing about the breed except it was small. I got her from a byb and she lived for 16 years with no health problems. The first time I took her to the groomer I was shocked out of my mind. She handed me a puppy that I didn't even recognize. I had brought in a black puppy and this puppy was gold and black. I really had no idea that they did not stay all black like when they are born. I knew nothing about their personalities or history of medical problems. The breeder handed me the puppy showed me what she was feeding her and that was it. I never had contact with the breeder again till 18 years later when I was looking for another. Ember lived a long and healthy life with a stupid owner who knew only how much she loved her. So it is possible give a yorkie a great home without knowing a whole lot. Of course this was many, many years ago. I only learned all of the information regarding yorkies when I joined YT which wasn't too long ago and that was after owning 3 yorkies.

[laci32]

Originally Posted by rscaggs

Just wanted to vent that some people need to research and learn about the breed they are going to get! Long story-short I had a lady email me about one of my pups and wanted to see pics-I sent the pics, she emails back stating that she wanted a "long haired yorkie." I email her back asking her what exactly she was talking about?? That if you choose to have a yorkie with long hair-you groom, brush, and do all the work it takes and let it grow out. She stated that she didnt know that and she assumed that they were born with a full coat, because all the pics of yorkie she had seen had longer coats!!!! I basically told her in a nice way that i wouldnt want her to have a pup of mine and that she needed to educate herself more before considering to get one-and that if you always assume that you make a a** out of you! She was even telling me that she only wanted to spend a hundred and some dollars for one anyway. I feel like I have priced my pups very well, and was not even going to consider that amount, and that she could find a nice one at a rescue or shelter.

Sometimes you just have to laugh. What a putz hahahaha

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I don't think there are any puppies born with long hair. I thought it a pretty odd question for a VET to ask! Surely any VET would know that no puppy is born with long hair. Would make be pretty leery about any advice the guy would try to dispense.

I do remember being surprised when I found out what yorkie puppies were supposed to look like. It was the color, not the length of hair that surprised me though. Still, I am sure there were plenty of things that I did not know that a breeder would have thought basics. Everyone is different.

I thought it was an odd question too, coming from a vet. I guess he has just never seen many newborns. Matter of fact he used to own a yorkie

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by DaniMarie

I don't post here as often as I should...but I wanted to add a point a few others made.

I see both sides of the topic.

When I went searching for a puppy after a tragic family event (I am a huge cat person and have always had cats but for a long long time I had an urge to try out dogs, and I'm SO happy God sent me a Yorkie!).......I was very uneducated, but I found, SO WERE 99% of the breeders I spoke to.

When I did a breed search, I decided for sure I wanted a Bichon. I started dealing with some very questionable breeders and I knew little to nothing about any breed of dog so I took their word for it.

Like another member said, THANK GOD I found Yorkie talk days after I got my Yorkie....and I only happened upon her by accident researching another pup and the breeder had a picture of her that I fell in love with.

I think it is honorable and amazing that great breeders like OP exist. A true love for the breed and for their pups. I didn't come across many of these in my search and I'm a little OCD about thingss, so I did do my research, I was just getting information from all the wrong places. It actually took me a few days of forum searching to find YT and I haven't posted anywhere else since.

I also didn't know the true price of the breed. Everyone had a different answer. My long time vet that I bring my cats to even told me there are different prices depending on if it's a "teacup" or not. (yeah, an old man VET didn't know the teacup myth that I came to learn on here) I would actually try to haggle with breeders because I was told this is what you do (I got my Poppy at a lower price than she was listed....$300 less, so clearly the breeder I went through wasn't as great as she seemed at the time, as it was CLEAR I knew absolutely ZERO about Yorkies when she sent Poppy off with me)

Reputable breeders are really harder to find than most of you think, being in the breeding community. For first time Yorkie owners, it's a huge trial finding the dog then learning everything about the dog. You expect the breeder to help you along with any questions but even questions I had asked the breeder, I came to find out were not true on here.

I am blessed that I got a happy, VERY healthy little puppy who has lightened up my life.....but it could have gone very different for me being a first time buyer.

I commend the breeder for being so on top of her game, but also think that maybe you WONDERFUL BREEDERS should just take a deep breath and try to understand a little that sometimes, although it may seem like someone is trying to get a dog to treat as a handbag or new pair of shoes, they may have different reasons and just not understand everything there is to know. (and we all know, there is A LOT to know)

I would also recommend guiding anyone who is professing they're buying a Yorkie to this site, I really REALLY wish I had found it prior to getting my dog.

Great Post.

I get lots of compliments on all the information that I have on my website. But I can see that I need to have more. I think a description and photos from birth to adult woud be helpful.

The yorkie breed is so different. In most breeds the puppies just look like miniature adult dogs. Yorkies are born looking like baby Rotties. Who would guess that this little black puppy with tan points, would grow into a blue and tan dog with long flowing hair.

[Ashley V]

When we brought Chip home, I knew absolutely nothing about yorkies. I still thought that "teacups" were real and I had no idea that they changed colors... when I noticed Chippy's hair color changing, I thought there was something wrong with him! I thought 8 weeks was okay to bring him home and he actually turned out to be 7 weeks. I had no idea about good nutrition... I thought Purina was good enough. I thought collars were fine. I even considered studding Chip!!! LOL and the last male puppy I had gotten, I was 11, so when I noticed these little mole like things on Chip's belly, I thought he had been bitten by ticks until my husband gently told me that male dogs have nipples too. As you can see, I wasn't very smart in yorkieland!!! Thankfully I had a patient group of people on YT to help me... all I got to say is, Chip survived and is now 4 years old and we have Smokey who is also almost 4 and has survived with us for 3 whole years. I have learned so much from people more knowledgeable than me, there is so much still to learn and I certainly wasn't ready for a yorkie when we got Chip. Does that make me a bad owner? No because I was willing to learn, he was very much loved, and had his basic needs met, even if it wasn't the absolute best, and was taken care of to the best of my abilities. Would I understand if a reputable breeder turned me down back then? Back then, no, I would have been upset, but knowing what I know now and looking back, I definitely would understand. I'm glad there are good breeders that look for the best care for their puppies, but unfortunately, those same people will turn to other not so good places like puppy mills and pet stores, because those awful places don't ask questions and just hand over their pups to anyone who will pay the price. I think giving them resources to learn first, like YT, before even considering selling pups would be a good start, if those people are willing to learn. IF I were a breeder, willingness and ability to learn, would be a quality I would look for in potential dog owners.

Thank you to all the wonderful breeders out there, doing the best for your pups!!!

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by DaniMarie

I don't post here as often as I should...but I wanted to add a point a few others made.

I see both sides of the topic.

When I went searching for a puppy after a tragic family event (I am a huge cat person and have always had cats but for a long long time I had an urge to try out dogs, and I'm SO happy God sent me a Yorkie!).......I was very uneducated, but I found, SO WERE 99% of the breeders I spoke to.

When I did a breed search, I decided for sure I wanted a Bichon. I started dealing with some very questionable breeders and I knew little to nothing about any breed of dog so I took their word for it.

Like another member said, THANK GOD I found Yorkie talk days after I got my Yorkie....and I only happened upon her by accident researching another pup and the breeder had a picture of her that I fell in love with.

I think it is honorable and amazing that great breeders like OP exist. A true love for the breed and for their pups. I didn't come across many of these in my search and I'm a little OCD about thingss, so I did do my research, I was just getting information from all the wrong places. It actually took me a few days of forum searching to find YT and I haven't posted anywhere else since.

I also didn't know the true price of the breed. Everyone had a different answer. My long time vet that I bring my cats to even told me there are different prices depending on if it's a "teacup" or not. (yeah, an old man VET didn't know the teacup myth that I came to learn on here) I would actually try to haggle with breeders because I was told this is what you do (I got my Poppy at a lower price than she was listed....$300 less, so clearly the breeder I went through wasn't as great as she seemed at the time, as it was CLEAR I knew absolutely ZERO about Yorkies when she sent Poppy off with me)

Reputable breeders are really harder to find than most of you think, being in the breeding community. For first time Yorkie owners, it's a huge trial finding the dog then learning everything about the dog. You expect the breeder to help you along with any questions but even questions I had asked the breeder, I came to find out were not true on here.

I am blessed that I got a happy, VERY healthy little puppy who has lightened up my life.....but it could have gone very different for me being a first time buyer.

I commend the breeder for being so on top of her game, but also think that maybe you WONDERFUL BREEDERS should just take a deep breath and try to understand a little that sometimes, although it may seem like someone is trying to get a dog to treat as a handbag or new pair of shoes, they may have different reasons and just not understand everything there is to know. (and we all know, there is A LOT to know)

I would also recommend guiding anyone who is professing they're buying a Yorkie to this site, I really REALLY wish I had found it prior to getting my dog.

OP used a rescue to breed. I don't consider that a wonderful breeder. You know nothing about the background or even if the male involved is a true yorkie:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...een-while.html