parti changing from white to blue

[Brooklynn]

A pure and true silk coated yorkie will not have curl or a wave to their coat. My Radar, my Tucker who are champions and then I have Krissy all have "straight" hair no wave or curl. Harvey probably has a modified silk and may have a wave to it but no curls. Then I have brookie and Murphy who are cotton coated and of course they have curls to their coats.
When you have a pure and true silk coat you will not have wave or curl to it. I would welcome anyone at a show to see Radar after his blow dry with no iron to it. I will be in NY in Feb and I have no issue with anyone watching me bathe and groom him

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

Can someone define the term "hard silk", btw?

A sparse slow growing coat which also may have a tendency to break

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

A sparse slow growing coat which also may have a tendency to break

Taken from this source: http://www.kwikwap.co.za/mjy/docs/TH...IER%20COAT.pdf
The quality of the silken coat varies, especially in different bloodlines. Some have the thick silk, others a thin sparse coat that does not thicken up until the dog is about 2 years old, and yet others have a wiry, hard coat that does eventually develop into a thick, silken steel blue.


From my understanding, a hard silk coat is very strong, and doesn't break easily at all; thinner/finer hair is stronger than coarser hair.

[Teresamag]

Jeanie,

I'm not sure you ever got your question answered about the color on the topline of your Parti. I found the wavy coat thread interesting and educating but wondered if anyone had emailed you or PM'd you about the color? I would love to know


Teresa

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

A pure and true silk coated yorkie will not have curl or a wave to their coat. My Radar, my Tucker who are champions and then I have Krissy all have "straight" hair no wave or curl. Harvey probably has a modified silk and may have a wave to it but no curls. Then I have brookie and Murphy who are cotton coated and of course they have curls to their coats.
When you have a pure and true silk coat you will not have wave or curl to it. I would welcome anyone at a show to see Radar after his blow dry with no iron to it. I will be in NY in Feb and I have no issue with anyone watching me bathe and groom him

My Izzy has a silky coat and has a ton of curls. She has never knotted and is EXTREMELY easy to groom. Here is a thread with pictures that show her coat:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...weet-izzy.html

So I can say, from first-hand experience with Izzy....a curly coat can have a silky texture.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

My Izzy has a silky coat and has a ton of curls. She has never knotted and is EXTREMELY easy to groom. Here is a thread with pictures that show her coat:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...weet-izzy.html

So I can say, from first-hand experience with Izzy....a curly coat can have a silky texture.

Well I have to say it could be a modified silk because a modified silk can be on the silky side and have curls but my silk coats that are pure and true and that I've seen and whelped has never had curls or waves. I've seen modified silk coats have curls. A modified silk coat can have a silky texture, does that make sense? A pure silk coat will be straight as in silk fabric but when you mix a silk fabric with a cotton fabric you get modified so hence a curl as in what a cotton fabric could possibly have

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

My Izzy has a silky coat and has a ton of curls. She has never knotted and is EXTREMELY easy to groom. Here is a thread with pictures that show her coat:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...weet-izzy.html

So I can say, from first-hand experience with Izzy....a curly coat can have a silky texture.

There's a difference between silky texture, and a true silk coat. It even feels differently, cool to the touch. Even a cotton-coated dog can feel soft and silky, but they say, you really have to touch one to understand the difference. Your baby Izzy is adorable, by the way. Not saying that isn't silky, I have no idea, but it's more complex than silk vs. cotton.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

My Izzy has a silky coat and has a ton of curls. She has never knotted and is EXTREMELY easy to groom. Here is a thread with pictures that show her coat:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...weet-izzy.html

So I can say, from first-hand experience with Izzy....a curly coat can have a silky texture.

I forgot to add Izzy is a pretty girl and I love her curls

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Well I have to say it could be a modified silk because a modified silk can be on the silky side and have curls but my silk coats that are pure and true and that I've seen and whelped has never had curls or waves. I've seen modified silk coats have curls. A modified silk coat can have a silky texture, does that make sense? A pure silk coat will be straight as in silk fabric but when you mix a silk fabric with a cotton fabric you get modified so hence a curl as in what a cotton fabric could possibly have

I should have waited a minute to post, you explained it much better than me.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I should have waited a minute to post, you explained it much better than me.

You explained it good LOL...I just gave some examples LOL for a visiualization

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Taken from this source: http://www.kwikwap.co.za/mjy/docs/TH...IER%20COAT.pdf
The quality of the silken coat varies, especially in different bloodlines. Some have the thick silk, others a thin sparse coat that does not thicken up until the dog is about 2 years old, and yet others have a wiry, hard coat that does eventually develop into a thick, silken steel blue.


From my understanding, a hard silk coat is very strong, and doesn't break easily at all; thinner/finer hair is stronger than coarser hair.

That isn't what I was describing. Hard silk does not usually develop into thick coats and they break. I don't think it's a desirable coat.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...silk-coat.html

[TammyJM]

I know what a modified silk coat feels like because I have 2 of them (and even had a groomer explain this type of coat to me). I also know what a silk coat feels like because I have 2 of them as well. Izzy's (curly) coat is silky, not modified.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I forgot to add Izzy is a pretty girl and I love her curls

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

There's a difference between silky texture, and a true silk coat. It even feels differently, cool to the touch. Even a cotton-coated dog can feel soft and silky, but they say, you really have to touch one to understand the difference. Your baby Izzy is adorable, by the way. Not saying that isn't silky, I have no idea, but it's more complex than silk vs. cotton.

We are biased, of course, but we think she's pretty darn cute and I happen to love her curls. It could be because she's my furkid, though.

I'm not trying to argue with anyone in this thread, but I can honestly say that Iz has a silky coat.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

We are biased, of course, but we think she's pretty darn cute and I happen to love her curls. It could be because she's my furkid, though.

I'm not trying to argue with anyone in this thread, but I can honestly say that Iz has a silky coat.

I think her curls are cute too! I love her sweet face.

I don't want to argue either BUT a "pure" silk coat will "not" have curls or waves that's fact. I'm sure she's silky as is my harvey but not a pure true silk as it's not straight. And Harvey is of my breeding and I know the difference

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I think her curls are cute too! I love her sweet face.

I don't want to argue either BUT a "pure" silk coat will "not" have curls or waves that's fact. I'm sure she's silky as is my harvey but not a pure true silk as it's not straight. And Harvey is of my breeding and I know the difference

Okay. You are stating this as a fact so you must know this from some sort of a genetics stand-point or are you saying this based on your personal experience?