Hi another newbie

[boopster]

Hi, fellow noob!

I found my Yorkie's breeder by checking the ACK and YTCA websites for lists of breeders, then searching for comments about the listed breeders here.

Folks on this forum know so much about caring for Yorkies -- I recommend you read as much as your brain can take, especially in the health and emergency categories -- to get an idea of the pros and cons of this little dog and make sure you're prepared to care for it properly (not to mention handle the expenses). As adorable as these dogs are, this breed is not for everyone.

I learned a lot about how to find a responsible breeder, and think that my home will be an excellent fit for the puppy I chose, thanks to information on this forum. And I have also gotten a lot of laughs and a few tears in this group already.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Nope, they ARE breeders...their dog had pups, they are considering breeding them again. They are BREEDERS in every sense of the word. "Legit" clearly is a term wide open for interpretation.



What I think of the situation is that they seem like they are irresponsible pet owners and now breeders too. If they are planning on doing it again, then it seems like they are content to stay that way. Whether the pedigrees contain 'a name or two' means very little in even planned breedings, and even less in this one.

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

I think you should tell your friends friend to get her dogs spayed and neutered. If they don't have any experience breeding, they're in for a doozy. Sometimes, the females need to have c-sections, sometimes the birthing put the mom and the puppies lives in danger.

If the parents weren't screened before the mated, you could end up with a puppy with some serious medical issues. Some lines have genetic diseases and some have genetic malfunctions - LP, Liver Shunts, Open Fontenels...

If the puppy has a low price ticket up front there's a pretty good chance that the puppy will have a large vet ticket later on.

I would seriously think about this puppy before taking it on. But, good luck in whatever you choose.

I agree with both posters!
Personally, I do not want to knowingly buy from irresponsible pet owners that do not know anything about breeding and are going to continue to be irresponsible and breed again. They are breeders, they are "back yard breeders" and I wouldn't want to get a pet that way.
I seriously doubt they did any testing, evaluating since they don't even know what papers if any they even have. If they actually got their dogs from legit breeders, they would know about papers.
You could be in heartache down the road in vet care, etc...

[BamaFan121s]

wrong thread

[patchesmom10]

Welcome To YT




Patches & Winnie

[Kathywithbirds]

Wow. OK. I have to say, some of this sounds a bit harsh. These guys were looking for pets, and went about getting pups from "real" breeders (read: show dog breeders with all the red tape and ribbons to go with it) and they DO know something about breeding. They're not stupid. Their 3 pets have AKC registration and they've done all those tests - liver, blood, hypo- and hyperglycemia when they were little (I'm not TOTALLY up on the tests that should be performed and when but these people certainly are). I'm not talking about careless owners who don't love their pets. These guys have their own ROOM in the house, are immaculately groomed and one is being courted by a local high brow breeder (again, read: show dogs) to stud one of his girls. What they're interested in is continuing the bloodline with the one boy - his sire's passed and there weren't too many boys from that sire.

I mean, seriously, if you let your dog have puppies without a live-in vet and several consultations with AKC representatives, is it a crime?

[BamaFan121s]

Did you or did you not ask "what we thought?" Did you or did you know really want to know honest opinions?

You did not present the situation as if they had the first clue as to what they were doing. You presented it as if they had pets (an oops litter) and weeee, this is fun, lets do it again. So why would you expect a different response?

Your stories of these people makes no sense. First you state it was an accident, that the dogs are pet quality, that they don't even know what they can do about registering them. Now you paint a different picture--that they are experienced breeders with impeccable bloodlines and are working with show breeders. If they did all the pre-breeding test, then they must have been planning on breeding....so how is this an "oops?" They are either pet lovers, or breeders. Interested in continuing a blood line, or going to get the dogs fixed after one more litter. So which one is it? Can't be both.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by Kathywithbirds

Wow. OK. I have to say, some of this sounds a bit harsh. These guys were looking for pets, and went about getting pups from "real" breeders (read: show dog breeders with all the red tape and ribbons to go with it) and they DO know something about breeding. They're not stupid. Their 3 pets have AKC registration and they've done all those tests - liver, blood, hypo- and hyperglycemia when they were little (I'm not TOTALLY up on the tests that should be performed and when but these people certainly are). I'm not talking about careless owners who don't love their pets. These guys have their own ROOM in the house, are immaculately groomed and one is being courted by a local high brow breeder (again, read: show dogs) to stud one of his girls. What they're interested in is continuing the bloodline with the one boy - his sire's passed and there weren't too many boys from that sire.

I mean, seriously, if you let your dog have puppies without a live-in vet and several consultations with AKC representatives, is it a crime?

This reply is like a 180 from the original post and the one after.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Did you or did you not ask "what we thought?" Did you or did you know really want to know honest opinions?

You did not present the situation as if they had the first clue as to what they were doing. You presented it as if they had pets (an oops litter) and weeee, this is fun, lets do it again. So why would you expect a different response?

Your stories of these people makes no sense. First you state it was an accident, that the dogs are pet quality, that they don't even know what they can do about registering them. Now you paint a different picture--that they are experienced breeders with impeccable bloodlines and are working with show breeders. If they did all the pre-breeding test, then they must have been planning on breeding....so how is this an "oops?" They are either pet lovers, or breeders. Interested in continuing a blood line, or going to get the dogs fixed after one more litter. So which one is it? Can't be both.

I think we were being played, JMO

[Kathywithbirds]

Oh dear god. They have PETS. Were they planning on breeding? Maybe. Maybe not. Choice got away from them when the dogs did their own thing. They may or may not breed their little boy with that show girl yorkie. BTW I did mention that these were dogs from "breeders." Apparently the definition of that word escapes me.

This is precisely the thing I avoid. If you're not planning on obtaining a doctorate in that specific breed's anatomy and genealogy you're a horrible person and perpetrating medical disasters on the animal in question.

This is not the forum for me.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Kathywithbirds

If you're not planning on obtaining a doctorate in that specific breed's anatomy and genealogy you're a horrible person and perpetrating medical disasters on the animal in question.

Exactly....see, you DO get it.

Forums in general are a tricky thing. You ask a question and for opinions, and people generally answer. Some people can handle it, some can't. Did you at least notice that before you became offended, people were jumping on left and right welcoming you and trying to help you out....

[MyBabyFynnlie]

I don't see what went wrong here. No one was rude or in her face, we were just answering her questions and giving our opinions. It's what she asked for, isn't it?