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lillymae · 05-12-2010, 12:58 AM

When my Aunt was diagnosed with cancer her oncologist told her to keep away from her pets while having Chemo, didn't say why. We figured it was because you are more prone to infection while on Chemo and if you were to get scratched or bitten it could be very serious.
Maybe that's why she's keeping them outside.

treasuremapper · 05-12-2010, 04:20 AM

Well, I am pretty upset after reading all of this. We cannot possibly go get the puppy until Saturday. Thank you so much for taking the time to give me your advice.

red98vett · 05-12-2010, 04:30 AM

I'll leave the vax advise to the pros - but she's leaving a tiny puppy and mom outside ? If I were you - I'd go get that poor baby and maybe try to talk her into giving up the dogs she has - these guys are not outside dogs - they just can't take the heat and cold like large breeds.

how sad for all involved. You're right to be concerned. Have you spoken to your vet and what does he say ?

ellabee · 05-12-2010, 08:08 AM

regarding the breeder, how did you find her? is she a reputable breeder? can you research more into who she is & see if she does have positive feedback from others who have dealt with her?

can you ask the breeder if you can contact her vet and ask them for a vet reference?

Rhetts_mama · 05-12-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ellabee

regarding the breeder, how did you find her? is she a reputable breeder? can you research more into who she is & see if she does have positive feedback from others who have dealt with her?

can you ask the breeder if you can contact her vet and ask them for a vet reference?

That's an excellent suggestion.

You can always use the excuse that you want to have any existing records sent to your new vet, as well as having the original vets number available if your vet has any questions.

I know the impulse is to rush in and rescue the pup from this situation. We all would want to do that. I'm just concerned that if she (the breeder) isn't on the up and up that even though you will be helping this one puppy, you will be encouraging her to continue (what at first blush appear to be) her bad practices. For your sake and the dogs sake, I truly hope she is telling you the whole truth.

LuvmyYorkies2 · 05-12-2010, 08:28 AM

Does she live alone? I'm assuming she does as I do not see any reason for her to keep such young pups outside, especially having no vaccines at all. Too bad she doesn't have any family(I'm assuming again) that could help her.

Having said all that, if you & your hubby are able, please try to get those pups & even the mom and tell her you can assist finding homes for them.

If she's as sick as she says, I don't see her having a problem with that at all, especially if she loves her dogs. Doesn't sound like she planned or prepared for this breeding very well, unless all this came on quickly & unexpectedly.

I wish she & the pups well.

canderson2087 · 05-12-2010, 08:39 AM

I feel bad about the puppies being outside. However, I got my puppy at 6 wks old, and she is perfectly healthy. She won't eat any soft food, so she is already eating hard food. And beside that point, getting a puppy at 6wks(or however old your pup will be??) where it can live inside and be taken care of is much better than it being outside. I agree that a good idea would be to take all of the pups if you can just to foster them. And I wouldn't pay full price either! I hope you get everything worked out!

floridanuthouse · 05-12-2010, 08:41 AM

I have 5 Yorkie Puppies born Easter morning. They are beautiful! I introduced them to semi-solid food yesterday.Pedigree Little Champions. It's the consistency of tuna. They ate it right down. Should I try feeding them twice a day?

I can't seem to get them to show any interest in water. I've tried dipping the noses in the bowl, but they shake their heads and back away. Any suggestions? I just wanted to add a note to the previous post about puppy shots. My vet told me to give the first shots at between 8 - 12 weeks. So thats when we go back.

canderson2087 · 05-12-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by floridanuthouse

I have 5 Yorkie Puppies born Easter morning. They are beautiful! I introduced them to semi-solid food yesterday.Pedigree Little Champions. It's the consistency of tuna. They ate it right down. Should I try feeding them twice a day?

I can't seem to get them to show any interest in water. I've tried dipping the noses in the bowl, but they shake their heads and back away. Any suggestions? I just wanted to add a note to the previous post about puppy shots. My vet told me to give the first shots at between 8 - 12 weeks. So thats when we go back.

I would post the question about water as a new thread, more ppl can see it that way!! But just a quick answer, my puppy did the same with the water, but she eventually decided (on her own!) that water was good. Leave it for them where they can find it, and they will prob end up going to it.

BamaFan121s · 05-12-2010, 09:32 AM

Seven weeks is way too early, regardless of the circumstances.

Heck, it's not even legal in many states! Chances are you wouldn't have any problems bringing the dog home that early, but chances are that you would. Those who have not had issues should consider themselves lucky, not use it as a reason to advocate releasing them so young.
It's just not worth the risk when it can be avoided.
Considering the information you have proviced on the situation, I would look elsewhere and try to find a reputable breeder instead.

br1ttan1h · 05-12-2010, 10:10 AM

I know that it is easy to jump and say help this poor baby, but what if the woman is lying, what if there are others she plans to breed and use the same story? This kind of thing happens all the time. Did she take full payment or just a deposit? If she took full payment I would feel as if it was a scam. She is taking money for a pet that she is unwilling to even have vaccinated. Not to mention selling them illegally under age.

darnlora · 05-12-2010, 10:31 AM

Can I ask who is this breeder and where in Oklahoma is she located exactly? I know of alot of breeders here!! Good luck on your deciision for it is a hard one!! Hugs!

treasuremapper · 05-12-2010, 11:28 AM

Hi, well, I talked with her again. She said that I misunderstood, and that the mom goes outside during the day but the puppies are kept inside. I have no idea what sort of medication she might be taking or anything like that. :-(

I know at this point that I sound like an inconsistent goofball, and if that is the case, I am sorry.

Ok, I am off to read the rest of this thread.

Rhetts_mama · 05-12-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by treasuremapper

Hi, well, I talked with her again. She said that I misunderstood, and that the mom goes outside during the day but the puppies are kept inside. I have no idea what sort of medication she might be taking or anything like that. :-(

I know at this point that I sound like an inconsistent goofball, and if that is the case, I am sorry.

Ok, I am off to read the rest of this thread.

You don't sound like an inconsistent goofball. You are just in the middle of a very muddled situation.

So is she just letting the mom in and out or is she keeping her outside and separated from the pups? That wouldn't be good because they would be missing a lot of socialization that only she can provide.

mojo · 05-12-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by treasuremapper

Hi, well, I talked with her again. She said that I misunderstood, and that the mom goes outside during the day but the puppies are kept inside. I have no idea what sort of medication she might be taking or anything like that. :-(

I know at this point that I sound like an inconsistent goofball, and if that is the case, I am sorry.

Ok, I am off to read the rest of this thread.

I don't trust this lady at all. I just wonder if she really has cancer - she may or not, but like others have said, how does that change the way you breed or take care of your animals.
And you should never let a puppy (especially a yorkie = small) outside. I don't even leave my adults outside by themselves as I am afraid something will happen.
I have dealt with a horrible breeder and I am just getting bad vibes about this.
I think the safer thing would be to get your puppy sooner than later. I have the feeling she is just trying to get rid of them earlier = less work for her, faster payday.
I could be wrong and I hope I am. I don't like being so cynical, but like others are saying, too many red flags.

05-12-2010, 12:58 AM	#31
lillymae YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,544	Fyi When my Aunt was diagnosed with cancer her oncologist told her to keep away from her pets while having Chemo, didn't say why. We figured it was because you are more prone to infection while on Chemo and if you were to get scratched or bitten it could be very serious. Maybe that's why she's keeping them outside.

05-12-2010, 04:30 AM	#33
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I'll leave the vax advise to the pros - but she's leaving a tiny puppy and mom outside ? If I were you - I'd go get that poor baby and maybe try to talk her into giving up the dogs she has - these guys are not outside dogs - they just can't take the heat and cold like large breeds. how sad for all involved. You're right to be concerned. Have you spoken to your vet and what does he say ? __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

05-12-2010, 08:08 AM	#34
ellabee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: british columbia, canada Posts: 145	regarding the breeder, how did you find her? is she a reputable breeder? can you research more into who she is & see if she does have positive feedback from others who have dealt with her? can you ask the breeder if you can contact her vet and ask them for a vet reference? __________________ billie ralphie sophie maddy boo sadieben

05-12-2010, 08:28 AM	#36
LuvmyYorkies2 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 1,739	Does she live alone? I'm assuming she does as I do not see any reason for her to keep such young pups outside, especially having no vaccines at all. Too bad she doesn't have any family(I'm assuming again) that could help her. Having said all that, if you & your hubby are able, please try to get those pups & even the mom and tell her you can assist finding homes for them. If she's as sick as she says, I don't see her having a problem with that at all, especially if she loves her dogs. Doesn't sound like she planned or prepared for this breeding very well, unless all this came on quickly & unexpectedly. I wish she & the pups well. __________________ Yolanda I Love My Girls Diva & Foxxy & Lexi

05-12-2010, 08:41 AM	#38
floridanuthouse YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sylvania ohio Posts: 4	Help! My first litter of Yorkie puppies. I have 5 Yorkie Puppies born Easter morning. They are beautiful! I introduced them to semi-solid food yesterday.Pedigree Little Champions. It's the consistency of tuna. They ate it right down. Should I try feeding them twice a day? I can't seem to get them to show any interest in water. I've tried dipping the noses in the bowl, but they shake their heads and back away. Any suggestions? I just wanted to add a note to the previous post about puppy shots. My vet told me to give the first shots at between 8 - 12 weeks. So thats when we go back.

05-12-2010, 04:20 AM	#32
treasuremapper Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 43	Well, I am pretty upset after reading all of this. We cannot possibly go get the puppy until Saturday. Thank you so much for taking the time to give me your advice.

05-12-2010, 08:39 AM	#37
canderson2087 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Foxworth, Mississippi, USA Posts: 25	I feel bad about the puppies being outside. However, I got my puppy at 6 wks old, and she is perfectly healthy. She won't eat any soft food, so she is already eating hard food. And beside that point, getting a puppy at 6wks(or however old your pup will be??) where it can live inside and be taken care of is much better than it being outside. I agree that a good idea would be to take all of the pups if you can just to foster them. And I wouldn't pay full price either! I hope you get everything worked out!

05-12-2010, 09:32 AM	#40
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Seven weeks is way too early, regardless of the circumstances. Heck, it's not even legal in many states! Chances are you wouldn't have any problems bringing the dog home that early, but chances are that you would. Those who have not had issues should consider themselves lucky, not use it as a reason to advocate releasing them so young. It's just not worth the risk when it can be avoided. Considering the information you have proviced on the situation, I would look elsewhere and try to find a reputable breeder instead. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 05-12-2010 at 09:34 AM.

05-12-2010, 10:10 AM	#41
br1ttan1h Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PSL, FL, USA Posts: 77	I know that it is easy to jump and say help this poor baby, but what if the woman is lying, what if there are others she plans to breed and use the same story? This kind of thing happens all the time. Did she take full payment or just a deposit? If she took full payment I would feel as if it was a scam. She is taking money for a pet that she is unwilling to even have vaccinated. Not to mention selling them illegally under age.

05-12-2010, 10:31 AM	#42
darnlora Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grove Oklahoma Posts: 494	Can I ask who is this breeder and where in Oklahoma is she located exactly? I know of alot of breeders here!! Good luck on your deciision for it is a hard one!! Hugs! __________________ "The best and most beautiful things in world cannot be seen or touched they must be felt with the heart." ~~~~ Helen Keller

05-12-2010, 11:28 AM	#43
treasuremapper Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 43	Hi, well, I talked with her again. She said that I misunderstood, and that the mom goes outside during the day but the puppies are kept inside. I have no idea what sort of medication she might be taking or anything like that. :-( I know at this point that I sound like an inconsistent goofball, and if that is the case, I am sorry. Ok, I am off to read the rest of this thread.